{theory} Riukdou is Not from a clan !

Chīkara

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I want to clear something up
People say rikudou is from the ''uzumaki'' clan
I think this is NOT true
lets go back in time......


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Its says clearly he possesed the blood and powers of both clans
and created many things.

Now lets take a look at this.

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the younger and the elder son ''created'' the clans if im correct.
wich means there were NO clans before them.

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This brat is the younger brother. Born with the ''sennins ''body''

clans came from him would be

-senju.
-Uzumaki.

Now look at this.

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you see the

Elder brother created : Uchiha !
And the younger brother created : Senju !


We all know Senju and Hidden eddy village ( Uzumaki ) are blood relatives

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U see ?

So how can the sage be an ''Uzumaki'' If there were no clans ??

Maybe i am wrong..
Feel free to correct me


(sorry for my english it suck)
 

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Yea, Thanks.
 

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It's plausible.
 

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Didn't think he even had a clan I thought his children started the bloodline for all the other clans.
 

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Didn't think he even had a clan I thought his children started the bloodline for all the other clans.

Yes he had no clan. the brothers created the clans even the manga stated it
 

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In addition, the manga specifically clarifies that Clans were existence during the time of the Sage, in terms of his origins:

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He was a priest (with no affiliated clan), which implies he came from a priesthood/familiy of priest who conducted researches on Chakra and ways to defeat the Juubi. By his prowess, it's only logical to assume the Sage was their leader.

I'm not sure why people believe he was an uzumaki when the manga disagrees.
 

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Agreed, all the theories about him being an Uzumaki's is nice and all but the fact is, clans did not exist during the Sage's time. It was only after his death that clans came about
 

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In addition, the manga specifically clarifies that Clans were existence during the time of the Sage, in terms of his origins:

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He was a priest (with no affiliated clan), which implies he came from a priesthood/familiy of priest who conducted researches on Chakra and ways to defeat the Juubi. By his prowess, it's only logical to assume the Sage was their leader.

I'm not sure why people believe he was an uzumaki when the manga disagrees.
they are stubborn. manga proved them wrong so many times
 

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I actually believe that he belonged in A clan but not uzumaki, I mean he was a monk/priest after all. So it must have been some sort of clan their monk/priest place, because normally monks/priests have a place where they all gather together.

But we can just stop about this argument, Rikudou won't even show up in Naruto probably and he will never be stated as a Uzumaki, probably won't be stated at all. I believe that Kishimoto have stop where he began with Rikudou, he is number One, founder of true chakra and ninjutsus, creator of Shinobi world and as well God of Shinobi world.

I doubt that Kishimoto will design him any further, I believe he want to keep Rikudou the way he is now. A God in a human form.

He is supposed to be the strongest person that have ever existed and the creator of these two clans (Uchicha & Senju)
Nothing more to argue about actually.

By the way, don't believe in a shit what Obito says, remember his story about Hashirama vs Madara? Well nothing of that was correct with Hashirama's story U_U
 
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I think he's genetically an Uzumaki
How ? He had both powers. so he is both of them

Agreed, all the theories about him being an Uzumaki's is nice and all but the fact is, clans did not exist during the Sage's time. It was only after his death that clans came about
This The 2 sons created the clans and that was after his death
 

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I actually believe that he belonged in A clan but not uzumaki, I mean he was a monk/priest after all. So it must have been some sort of clan their monk/priest place, because normally monks/priests have a place where they all gather together.

But we can just stop about this argument, Rikudou won't even show up in Naruto probably and he will never be stated as a Uzumaki, probably won't be stated at all. I believe that Kishimoto have stop where he began with Rikudou, he is number One, founder of true chakra and ninjutsus, creator of Shinobi world and as well God of Shinobi world.

I doubt that Kishimoto will design him any further, I believe he want to keep Rikudou the way he is now. A God in a human form.

He is supposed to be the strongest person that have ever existed and the creator of these two clans (Uchicha & Senju)
Nothing more to argue about actually.
Yes i agree with you. but i saw a thread about this wich i see so many times... i wanted to prove them wrong for now
 

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Agreed, all the theories about him being an Uzumaki's is nice and all but the fact is, clans did not exist during the Sage's time. It was only after his death that clans came about

Well, in my opinion it's impossible for him to be from the Uzumaki clan, so I agree with this thread, but kindly show me where was the bolded part of your comment stated in the manga exactly?, as far as I remember it was only said that his younger and older son's descendants were then known as Senju and Uchiha clan respectively.
 

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they are stubborn. manga proved them wrong so many times

Meh, its no surprise. NB is filled with many blemishing persons who aren't detailed in the manga and quick to criticize...to the point that they accept theory as fact.
 

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Well, in my opinion it's impossible for him to be from the Uzumaki clan, so I agree with this thread, but kindly show me where was the bolded part of your comment stated in the manga exactly?, as far as I remember it was only said that his younger and older son's descendants were then known as Senju and Uchiha clan respectively.
You are true but he was the one who created jutsu He created senju and uchiha. Senju is bloodrelative with the uzumaki clan
the other clans just copied the ninjutsu i think
 

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Well, in my opinion it's impossible for him to be from the Uzumaki clan, so I agree with this thread, but kindly show me where was the bolded part of your comment stated in the manga exactly?, as far as I remember it was only said that his younger and older son's descendants were then known as Senju and Uchiha clan respectively.

Actually you're probably right on that part, clans might have existed during the Sage's time but there's nothing that says there were or there wasn't clans while the Sage was alive. You are right with the Senju and Uchiha coming from his children but I honestly don't know if clans existed before then or not.
 
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