[Theory] Rinnegan and Ten tails power mutual reliance

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Hello guys, I would like to talk about Mutual reliance between Rinnegan and Ten tails's power. I just came up with such idea due the Rinnegan being brought up into Naruto manga recently.


Connection between Juubi's chakra and Rinnegan :​
Obito talks about possibility of Madara regaining second Rinnegan with fear about terryfing power it can bring out:

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The interesting fact Obito brought is this part of his quote: "Even just this one left eye... I had lost to it's overhelming chakra and ability". However it bring the question: When did Obito feel like loosing to overhelming chakra and ability ? Honestly I didn't notice him having any problem with wielding Rinnegan until he became Juubi Jinchurki. I can deduce that There is some connection between Rinnegan eye and Juubi....

Juubi's chakra affecting Rinnegan :​
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If my hypothesis is correct, then based on Obito's words I can pull assumption that becoming Juubi's Jinchurki not just enhance Rinnegan's techniques power but it may also give the wielder access to some hidden Rinnegan's abilities.

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It is not too farfetched as The Juubi was always shown with Eye which is made of few ripples and tomoes around them. Yes Juubi's eye is called Nine tomoe Rinnegan and it seems that Regular Rinnegan is just degraded version of Juubi's eye. If my guess is correct then it is only logical for Juubi's degraded eye to affect Juubi's chakra... and in opposite way.

Rinnegan affecting use of Juubi's powers/chakra :​
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Another interesting notice which I made is the fact that Rinnegan(degraded's Juubi eye) affect also Juubi's Jinchurki in some way. We know that The Sharingan was used to control Bijuu's powers to use efficently and in focused way. The same can be said about The Rinnegan which most likely improves control over Ten tails's chakra/ powers. Considering that logical you can have only Two eyes then it is safe to assume that each Rinnegan responds to 50% better control over Juubi's powers... and ability to tap into bigger amount of Juubi's chakra. If this is true then Obito's fear and Madara's desire to regain other Rinnegan is only true as it would give him much bigger control and ability to tap into 100% of Juubi's powers instead of 50%. In other words Rinnegan does't give you additional more raw power or something like that, but just increases your control allowing you to use Ten tails's power to full effect.

Of course the only true effect of having both Rinnegan and how it affects use of Ten tails powers can only be shown when ORIGINAL WIELDER of The Rinnegan will be shown.

IMPORTANT: It is also possible that each Rinnegan only enhances 33% or even 25% control over Juubi's powers if Third eye which grows resembling Juubi's eye play important role in it. If it plays important role in it, then either it gives equal or bigger control over Juubi's eyes so either 33%(then each Rinnegan: 33%) or 50%(Then each Rinnegan just 25%)

Summary :​
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  • Rinnegan is degraded Juubi's eye which is Nine tomoe Rinnegan
  • Neither Obito or Madara have made full use of 100% Ten tails chakra they had(Madara still has) because Obito didn't have two Rinnegan and wasn't even Original wielder while Madara is original wielder but still misses his other Rinnegan.
  • Each Rinnegan only enhances 33% or even 25% control over Juubi's powers if Third eye which grows resembling Juubi's eye play important role in it. If it plays important role in it, then either it gives equal or bigger control over Juubi's eyes so either 33%(then each Rinnegan: 33%) or 50%(Then each Rinnegan just 25%)
  • Ten tails chakra makes Rinnegan stronger and give access to hidden Rinnegan abilties
  • Rinnegan gives better control over Ten tails's powers/chakra.
  • Madara will not get any more raw power but just perfect control over Ten tails powers which in way power up him giving him access to 100% ten tails chakra/ powers instead of only 50% and incomplete control with just one Rinnegan

Thanks for reading !

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Kamui > Fodderomo.​
 

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yeah, maybe but the both rinnegan should still give you more raw strength and jutsus regardless of the jubbi
 

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Nice ideas! Good going!

…If so the Madara when we first met him basically has the effect of a bee stinging an elephant compared to this Madara…
 

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yea i knew it ...

but i want to know why is nagatoz rinne dont have tomoe while sasuke has dem ... sasuke dnt hve juubi still the tomoes? how come madx has juubi andno tomoe in his rinnegan??
 

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Interesting theory.
 

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yea i knew it ...

but i want to know why is nagatoz rinne dont have tomoe while sasuke has dem ... sasuke dnt hve juubi still the tomoes? how come madx has juubi andno tomoe in his rinnegan??

well don't take it as certain but maybe:

1) You need to have sharingan or Rinnegan in both eyes
2) You have to be Original wielder of the eyes no with transplants
3) You have to have at least EMS(last stage of sharingan)...

Just my guess
 

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So if each Rinnegan allows 25% more control over the Juubi's chakra (50% total if you have both) than the body must also give 25% for each half of Ashura/Indra (50% total).

Obito who only had one Rinnegan (25%) and only had half the body of the sage (25% Ashura/Hashi chakra) would in theory be able to only access 50% of the Juubi's chakra.

Madara who had both halves of the body Indra (25%) + Ashura/Hashi (25%) + 1 Rinnegan (25%) would have in theory 75% access to the Juubi's chakra.

Please tell me if I'm even making any sense.
 

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So if each Rinnegan allows 25% more control over the Juubi's chakra (50% total if you have both) than the body must also give 25% for each half of Ashura/Indra (50% total).

Obito who only had one Rinnegan (25%) and only had half the body of the sage (25% Ashura/Hashi chakra) would in theory be able to only access 50% of the Juubi's chakra.

Madara who had both halves of the body Indra (25%) + Ashura/Hashi (25%) + 1 Rinnegan (25%) would have in theory 75% access to the Juubi's chakra.

Please tell me if I'm even making any sense.

Well you get it perfectly if you exclude Third Eye which shows as Juubi's eye from this formula.

However I believe that body powers can not be splited into smaller parts... it is just you have Juubi based body with 100% control over Juubi's power or else you haven't then you have 0% chakra over Juubi's power.

The body enhances powers of eyes while eyes gives better control over body's powers, well sort of :D
 

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Well you get it perfectly if you exclude Third Eye which shows as Juubi's eye from this formula.

However I believe that body powers can not be splited into smaller parts... it is just you have Juubi based body with 100% control over Juubi's power or else you haven't then you have 0% chakra over Juubi's power.

The body enhances powers of eyes while eyes gives better control over body's powers, well sort of :D
Yea that would explain why Obito's Jinchuuriki form seemed less controlled/perfected than Madara's because the Rinnegan was not originally his (thus giving Obito less control of the Juubi's chakra).
 

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Yea that would explain why Obito's Jinchuuriki form seemed less controlled/perfected than Madara's because the Rinnegan was not originally his (thus giving Obito less control of the Juubi's chakra).

well this, and also the fact that Madara's Juubi has Full Gyuuki and Half of Kurama, while Obito's Juubi had only a bit of Gyuuki and Kurama's chakra. In short Obito had smaller potential of Juubi's raw power but also more poor control over it...
 
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