Theory/Prediction: Kaguya's Purpose & Fate; role of the Rikudo Tools

[Vega]

First and foremost I wanted to say that I was just about finished with this thread when my whole freaking power went out for like an hour resulting me in losing all this work and having to redo everything/couldn't remember everything as I had initially stated it. Now that's aside-

Basically I want to put out a prediction and some thought. You've probably already heard some of this so bare me with.

So this chapter it was made aware to us that Kaguya's presence is within the God Tree.

In an earlier thread, I hypothesized how Indra may have influenced Madara causing hatred or evilness.

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Hello, this thread may not seem as captivating as my last theory but it is still is interesting. And I decided to try out this new font lol.
EDIT: The latest chapter showed that each brother's presence was indeed felt at the 5 kage summit! (But through Naruto's perception)
Though Hagoromo created the Tablet, Indra still left clues on it as well.

Well some of you probably will say this is irrelevant/worthless;
But I was reading some old chapters and noticed albeit a small yet peculiar similarity.
Basically it was something about this Demon in the background during the Mangeyko Secrets Reveal

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The first time they show it nothing is really special.
But the 2nd time I noticed something similar to Indra's Susanoo.
They both have horns in the exact same place:
Indra's Susanoo Horns:

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Demon Horns:

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So this got me thinking that Indra's hatred actually directly affected Sasuke's cold character at one point.
The sage already stated that Indra's chakra transmigrated over time, meaning it must've influenced countless Uchiha.

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But I believe this is the a hidden factor behind the Mangeyko planned by Indra:

• The user may become cold-hearted from the hatred from the endeavors to gain the MS
• Or in other words making them openly subjected to Indra's influence
• Over time his desire for a new light will lead him for an Eternal Mangeyko Sharingan.

Now you may be like, "This is obvious" and "how is this important?"
Well the answer is:
Indra wanted future Uchiha to gain the EMS so they could read his tablet and enact his plan to thwart his brother's ambitions.

Indra was most likely the one who created the tablet and Hagoromo brother probably did not create it.

• It may not be practical that Hagoromo's brother created it, for at this point Hagoromo had the Rinnegan and his brother probably did not (see this
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• More-so it requires a special "eye technique."
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• Logically speaking the son born with visual prowess from the Sage should be the one to create a cryptogram requires visual powers.
• More than this, it had been in the possession of the Uchiha.

Now Indra went to extremes to go with this plan and knew that the future descendants of his brother (Senju) wouldn't allow his ploy to take place.
So using the power he gained from inheriting the Sage's "eyes" or somewhat visual powers,

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he used Inton and Yoton for enabling Amaterasu and Tsyukomi in his eyes.
In general, the databook stated that they each technique represented Inton/Dark and Yoton/Light of the world.

Well I mean it would make sense:
Indra was shown to be of the Crescent Moon;

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• The information of the Uchiha tablet that I believed he wrote helped with the Eye of the Moon Plan (Infinte Tsukuyomi)
• A dying Madara was able to do so for manifesting his will and catalyzing Zetsus
• So the man who made the Uchiha with the inherited Rikudo's visual powers should be capable of such on his own accord.

At the same time he realized that his brother had some sort of bijuu related powers:
So in order to go against, this he awakened Susanoo.
This is the reason as to why it would rival the Bijuus. (aside from being OP)

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So what is my points with this? Susanoo may be Indra's manifestation; maybe spiritual perhaps.
Or the databook states that Susanoo is a "guardian warrior", well I believe it may merely be Indra's chakra manifestation that transmigrated through time. So this then becomes, "the caster's guardian."
Madara's Perfect Susanoo also shared similar hair sides with Indra:

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Next and Specifically, he mastered genjutsu for his goal was to control the Kyuubi, the strongest Bijuu.

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Conclusion from this:
So all in all, Indra set up all these tactics knowing that over time the Mangeyko Sharingan would lead to the acquiring of the EMS enabling a Future Uchiha to read and carry on his plan inscribed on the Uchiha Tablet.
In other words the one who is doing this is Madara Uchiha at the moment.

Inner Presence:
(Assuming this spoiler is legit)

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In this scan, Hagoromo apparently tells Naruto that he too must've sensed Ashura's presence.
But in reality regardless of that scan, both Indra's presence and Ashura's were sensed once in the Manga before by Karin.
Sasuke's Darkness of chakra equated to Indra's as he was shrouded by it after obtaining the Mangeyko:

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Naruto's warm chakra equated to Ashura's kindhearted being:

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Sasuke and Naruto are each of the brother's representation and are fated to end this conflict.

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General Summary:

• Magneyko Demon represents Indra's evil will
• Indra's darkness directly influenced Sasuke
• Indra wrote the Uchiha stone Tablet
• Indra wanted a future strong Uchiha with EMS to read His tablet
• ^This would then lead them to complete his plan or philosophy
• Indra's presence is within Sasuke
• Ashura's Presence is within Naruto
• Their battle will be fated to end the brother's mishaps (nobody is going to die relax)

Thanks, Vega

Now after some thought, I feel that Kaguya may have tried to influence Madara and other people.
Let's recall what we know:

• Madara is Indra's reincarnation
• Meaning Indra's chakra was present within him so Madara was destined to continue the Brother's conflict

But now I feel that Kaguya may have influenced Indra and eventually Madara.
Let's see what we know about Kaguya:
She used the Infinite Tsukuyomi on people for control/power

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Her presence is within the God Tree

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So Kaguya wanted to have complete control over the people.
Therefore she must have realized her dictatorship would not last once her life ended.
Meaning she must've come up with some plan to be able to continue her wrule.

SO-

1. Her plan was to not only influence people to her will, but try and take over them
2. Specifically she wished to take over any one exposed to her chakra (in any way, shape, or form) or a Jinchuuriki of the Juubi.

The Rikudo stated that the world seemed to desire Indra's methods or rather the Rikudo stated that Indra's methods were Kaguya's. (Middle left)

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• Indra was influenced by Kaguya's ill-will to fight his brother
• This was in order for Indra/his descendants to obtain the Rinnegan and revive the Juubi (As predicted by the Rikudo
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• Which would allow Kaguya to aim to take over who would become the Juubi's Jinchuuriki

She influenced Indra through his Sharingan:
Meaning that he inherited the Sharingan indirectly from which means he received some of her chakra through Visual Prowess handed down to him by the Rikudo.
These eyes he gained subjected him to hatred being caused by Kaguya.

The Rikudo Sennin also had her chakra inside him, in fact he was born with Chakra.
But he became immune/resistant to Kaguya's evil will by utilizing Ninshuu. (Middle Right)

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So through Indra's influence, she was behind the scenes waiting for when someone would carry on her plan left as a warning by the Rikudo.(Madara)
Madara was reaching completion to her ultimate goal of the Infinite Tsukuyomi; but things screwed up for her once Obito became the Jinchuuriki.

So Kaguya even tried to take over Obito but managed to overcome it with his willpower.

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Aside from that, Kaguya realized Madara was the perfect candidate to allow her to be brought back.
Why?
Because Madara desires Power; He even wanted to gain the same power as Kaguya

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She realized that she could easily manipulate someone as conceited as him by tempting him with Power.
And it worked; for Madara absorbed the God Tree carrying on her plan one step forward.

So you may be wondering as to why she didn't just try and take over Madara like she attempted with Obito;
The answer: The God Tree
The God Tree/her essence had become dis-unified/separated from the Juubi during Obito's time as Jinchuuriki.
Specifically, Obito bringing back the tree is what caused this to happen.

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Notice how even after the Juubi was reverted back into the Mazou the God Tree remained there. (Top left)

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So it would make sense that she was separated from the Juubi present within Obito after he sprouted forth the tree.

The Rikudo Tools:
As we know, TenTen has possesion of the tools.
So what will be the ultimate fate of Kaguya and perhaps Madara as well?
They will be sealed within the Amber Purification Pot.

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To elaborate:

• They could potentially just seal Kaguya/Madara in there and destroy it or sent it to Kamui land.
• Below is a was referring to the Benihisago (Crimson Gourd) which has the power to seal away anything that cannot come back out.
• Right now its rendered ineffective as the Kōkinjō is sealed within the Amber Purification Pot.
• So they could also release the Kōkinjō from the Amber Pot and use that to permanently seal away Madara/Kaguya for all of eternity.

While their chakra will still be present within the pot, it will be impossible to release Kaguya or Mazou back into the world.
Because what goes in the pot cannot come out, so the world will be safe from her evil ways.

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General Summary/Main Points:

• Kaguya wants to take over Madara
• Kaguya influenced Madara and even Indra
• Hagoromo resisted Kaguya's influence through Ninshuu
• Kaguya tried to take over Obito
• Her presence was inadvertently separated by Obito
• She will be sealed forever by the Rikudo Tools

Thanks, Vega

 

[Calpal]

Wooooah homie.
You gotta chill
Lol

 

[Waltz]

Had a similar thought, nice work here Vega. ​

 

[-Drāke-]

Where do you find the time to write all these theories _@:

 

[Dark Magician]

I'll read this later.
But yes Kaguya is evil.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

So mindless juubito is Kaguya? Or being controlled by Kaguya?


Oh yes, and i have a pointless prediction: Someone will try to seal Madara with the Amber pot, and Madara will respond, but not get sealed, until someone calls him Kaguya Ootsutsuki, then he starts getting sealed before destroying the pot.

 

[sammypt Miyamoto Musashi]

Awesome man, I love it! Great insight and I will read this again when I can! Too tired right now to discuss it. Amazing job though!

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Great Theory! I've been wondering too what kind of role the Sage's tools will play since Madara spit them out.

But about the Amber Purifying Pot didn't the Third Raikage seal the eight-tails in the pot (not sure if that was in an anime filler) before it was sealed into Bee. The Kyuubi chakra of Kinkaku and Ginkaku technically was released from the pot when it was lost in the tug-of-war with Jin Obito. So anything sealed can technically be released. Maybe the pot will be sent to Kamui dimension where no one can easily get to it.

 

[GhostProject]

Excellent analytic skills and good theories! =D

Awesome work, a lot of unbelievably subtle details you picked up! Quite amazing

 

[Joshutsu]

Good job I hope she does take over, i'm in need of something new, hopefully she will be the last surprise we get as to final villains. x-x

 

[assface3]

Naw. Shikamaru's going to be the one to seal Madara with Rikudou's tools after Naruto and Sasuke weaken him.

And Kaguya isn't going to take Madara over.

 

[Invsblphntm]

I also thought so as well. Nice job linking it up for those who may not have found this strangely connected villain out.


The fact that Masashi Kishimoto went out of his way [through Hagoromo] to state that the "evil" way was not Indra's, but Kaguya's is more than enough for anyone to confirm that she is indeed going to return.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Sealing kaguya away forever? Don't you think that's a little too harsh for even kish?

 

[Vega]

Had a similar thought, nice work here Vega. ​

Thanks Waltz! Great minds think alike

Where do you find the time to write all these theories _@:

lol, its something I enjoy doing.

Awesome man, I love it! Great insight and I will read this again when I can! Too tired right now to discuss it. Amazing job though!

Thanks! Take your time and let me know what you think later

Great Theory! I've been wondering too what kind of role the Sage's tools will play since Madara spit them out.

But about the Amber Purifying Pot didn't the Third Raikage seal the eight-tails in the pot (not sure if that was in an anime filler) before it was sealed into Bee. The Kyuubi chakra of Kinkaku and Ginkaku technically was released from the pot when it was lost in the tug-of-war with Jin Obito. So anything sealed can technically be released. Maybe the pot will be sent to Kamui dimension where no one can easily get to it.

Thanks! Yeah you're right that Third Raikage did seal Gyuuki temporarily, so they could potentially just seal Kaguya/Madara in there and destroy it as well or do what you said.
But to elaborate, I made a mistake in that my scan was referring to the Benihisago (Crimson Gourd) but I misused the name. Right now its rendered ineffective as the Kōkinjō is sealed within the Amber Purification Pot. So they could also release the Kōkinjō from the Amber Pot and use that to permanently seal away Madara.

Excellent analytic skills and good theories! =D

Awesome work, a lot of unbelievably subtle details you picked up! Quite amazing

Thanks ! Glad you enjoyed it

Good job I hope she does take over, i'm in need of something new, hopefully she will be the last surprise we get as to final villains. x-x

Thanks! I agree, this may very well be Kishi's "trump card." lol

I also thought so as well. Nice job linking it up for those who may not have found this strangely connected villain out.


The fact that Masashi Kishimoto went out of his way [through Hagoromo] to state that the "evil" way was not Indra's, but Kaguya's is more than enough for anyone to confirm that she is indeed going to return.

Thanks man! I totally agree, Kishi incorporates his own hints/meanings through his characters to give us readers insight.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Thanks! Yeah you're right that Third Raikage did seal Gyuuki temporarily, so they could potentially just seal Kaguya/Madara in there and destroy it as well or do what you said.
But to elaborate, I made a mistake in that my scan was referring to the Benihisago (Crimson Gourd) but I misused the name. Right now its rendered ineffective as the Kōkinjō is sealed within the Amber Purification Pot. So they could also release the Kōkinjō from the Amber Pot and use that to permanently seal away Madara.

Possibly one of the bijuu will know more about the tools or Hagoromo mentioned it off-panel and they can all be released and then used together by Naruto and Sasuke. It would be cool to see Naruto and Sasuke using the trio of Rope+Sword+Gourd (I don't remember all the specific names) to fight against Madara. I wonder what Madara's most used word is? It's got to be either dance or of course Hashirama.

I'll probably have to re-read the chapters of the fight between Gin/Kin and Darui to refresh my memory.

 

[Vega]

Possibly one of the bijuu will know more about the tools or Hagoromo mentioned it off-panel and they can all be released and then used together by Naruto and Sasuke. It would be cool to see Naruto and Sasuke using the trio of Rope+Sword+Gourd (I don't remember all the specific names) to fight against Madara. I wonder what Madara's most used word is? It's got to be either dance or of course Hashirama.

I'll probably have to re-read the chapters of the fight between Gin/Kin and Darui to refresh my memory.

Yeah man, we'll have to see how it plays out

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

Another banger from Vega, you never slow down do you?

OT: I agree with all the points you made. I especially think that Obito overcoming Kaguya with willpower is key, and that willpower will become a theme in defeating her (keeping up with the "Will of Fire" etc. themes in the manga), should she take over Madara.

 

[Vega]

Another banger from Vega, you never slow down do you?

OT: I agree with all the points you made. I especially think that Obito overcoming Kaguya with willpower is key, and that willpower will become a theme in defeating her (keeping up with the "Will of Fire" etc. themes in the manga), should she take over Madara.

Lol
OT: Totally agree with what you said, goes to show how powerful of a will Obito has. That also makes me think that the Sword of Nunoboku weakened after Obito doubted himself.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Lol
OT: Totally agree with what you said, goes to show how powerful of a will Obito has. That also makes me think that the Sword of Nunoboku weakened after Obito doubted himself.

I wonder if Naruto could possibly utilize the Sword of Nunoboku now that he has the Truth Seeking Balls plus Naruto has one of the strongest wills out of anyone so he could use it better than Obito.

 

[Vega]

I wonder if Naruto could possibly utilize the Sword of Nunoboku now that he has the Truth Seeking Balls plus Naruto has one of the strongest wills out of anyone so he could use it better than Obito.

Oh yeah for sure, he'd be virtually unstoppable with it. Like you said, its said to be a sword of "soul".

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So with someone like Naruto who doesn't give up on his ninja way the results/compatibility would probably surpass the level Hagoromo was able to sync his own soul/will with the Holy Sword of Nunoboku.Good discussion