[THEORY]Origins Of Kekkai Genkai,The S06P,his blood limit and how he got the Rinnegan

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I was preparing a long theory concerning this since a while, but it seems you beat me to it. I must admit though that i never thought about the possibility the Sage could have been half-Hyuga as well and your explanation makes sense. Nice thread :)
 

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Impressive if I must say so myself :cool:
 

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how a great theory like this got so little respon O_O
great theory but you lost me when so6p eating juubi flesh, i'm sorry but that hard to swallow

The gold and silver brothers survived inside the kyuubi by eating it's flesh and it was said they were only able to do it because of their relation to the so6p. So wouldn't it make sense that the only reason they could do it was because the sage also done it?


Great theory btw. This is definitely one of the creams to NB's theory crops.
I only have one thing to add, the sage didn't seal the juubi and then make himself it's jinchuriki. He became it's jinchuriki to seal it. Like you said the Uzumaki's traditional sealing methods only got them killed.
 
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Great theory, keep up the work.
A great read; just as Sir Obito said it was a very insightful analysis.
 

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no doesn't make sense not knocking u tho good effort

:dunno: dumb ppl just accept bs because we are all feed bs every day so anything not bs is viewed as bs
too many ppl want to believe the sage is uzimaki its wide spread and when dressed up it seems logical but its not

if u only know wrong how can u do right? u can't because to u wrong is right
 

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no just cause you wrote a book doesnt mean it make sense he had rinnegan and sealing jutsu before fighting 10 tails, 10 tails was known to split mountains and etc. how would he be known for this withot showing his power lol he wouldnt jus but roaming the forest NOT causing destruction lol PLUS all jutsu came from SO6P the ability to use chakra to turn into elements to attack, THATS THE FIRST ABILITY OF RINNEGAN. thats the SO6P he got hie name with the RINNEGAN and all KKG is is fusing two diff elements, that naturally came after learning how to use elements.THEN after defeating the beast causing mass destuction to everybody for NO REASON(no feelings or purpose, be mass power to kill everything....yea that def. a reason to seal it) he got the name for causing peace, but all jutsu came from SO6P, they tell us this, it shows with his KKG (Rinnegan)QUOTE=Fermion;11729613]Origins Of Kekkai Genkai Ninja's,The Sage of Six paths,his relation to the Uzumaki's and Hyuga's and how he retrieved the Rinnegan

It is mentioned that the sage appeared in the era of endless war.The same age when the Juubi existed....
With no Chakra knowledge and Ninjutsu, the war's between different sects of people would just have been like it happened in our world 4 centuries before. The Juubi was a empty vessel with no feelings...
The Juubi had no hatred for any one and neither had any love for anyone.As noted by Kurama, the Ten-Tails lacks a consciousness to possess feelings or ideals, thus making it impossible for those to sense it through such means as those that involve detecting negative feelings or chakra.
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So there is no reason of its involvement in that war.And due to its lack of hatred or any sort of feeling there is no any reason stating it as a Potential Danger for Humans or anyone.
So what could have been the Reason of the sage opposing and imprisoning the 10 tails?

And the sage is said to be a sage or a priest so without even dissolving the 10 tails he could have spread the word of peace everywhere and stopped the war....

Except the Dojutsu's there is no mention of the origins of the Kekkai Genkai.'I think the reason why the S06P stopped Juubi was Kekkai Genkai'

During the endless war each Clan wanted to have a upper hand.So some of these clan member would have came to Juubi. Uninterested in their intentions Juubi must have granted them a part of its Chakra .The beings which would have able to survive with its Chakra in them would have unknowingly awakened a compatible ability in themselves according to their inherited genes.This abilty was the Kekkai Genkai.Hence it was the Juubi who was the source of Kekkai Genkai....The people inheriting this Bloodline limit would have increased with time....
The introduction of these type of high ability people in the war would have deteriorated the conditions.
The Juubi indirectly was acting as a promoter of war.

The sage would have understood that the overpowerful Conciousless Juubi will just act as a Catalyst for destruction.
The world men will try to make a use of Juubi,as Madara is doing now,and the Kekkai Genkai sects were doing then.So the only way to secure peace was to get rid of Juubi somehow.....

Origins and the making of Sage of 6 path...

Is it just a Co-incidence that the eye of Juubi shares a striking similarity to, two of the great Do jutsu's , Circled Rinnegan and Tomoed Sharingan

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and to the Chakra Cloak covering Naruto in bijuu mode with Kurama's Chakra which in turn is a part of Juubi's Chakra has a striking similarity to the apparel worn by Sage of six paths. .

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I believe that it was the Juubi only which which was the reason of Sage's rinnegan and body...

I also believe that the Sage was a half Hyuga and Half Uzumaki......

Well don't flame me for assuming this,first read my explanation that why I think so....

I am highly thankful to Derp Obito and Shouri Uchiha to let me use their theories as a base for mine...





Its utter commonsense that the Sage was not born great with Rinnegan and Ninja tools.Like every Shinobi in Narutoverse he would have earned his power,wisdom,abilities and skills.

I believe that the Uzumaki's and Hyuga's existed even before the S06P......I even believe that the Uzmaki's had even learned about the existence of Chakra and had even developed Some initial fuijutsu techniques...My reasons of thinking so are

1)Fuijutsu are one of the toughest techniques in the series.They were not like a simple Chidori or Rasengan which can be developed and learned in just a mere part of lifetime.....Fuijutsu was a technique which took hundreds of years to develop and a half lifetime to master.Uzumaki's could have founded these techniques only if they had enjoyed a long past.

2)Uzumaki's were the only clan's which were so much in number ,that even after destruction they have a full bunch of members left.

Unllike the Senju's they didn't dissolved in the society.

They constituted a full fleged village too.Combined with their huge lifespan this amount of no. Of clan members which was obviously much larger than either Senju's or Uchiha's can be only possible when they have traced their beginning before These two clans or in other words S06P.

3)Uzumaki's had a huge life force which they passed to S06P which then passed to the Senju's.....


For those people which are going to challange my first argument by saying that Chakra didn't existed at that time so how can Fuinjutsu be possible for them I have this manga page 446/10......
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Its clearly said by Jiraya that S06P defined Chakra.He founded the proper ways to use this Chakra in Ninjutsu.....something like Newton defined gravity, but this doesn't means that there was no gravity before a apple fell at Newton's head.We have been making tools which work on the principal of gravity from stone age....
Its a possibilty that Fuijutsu came before Ninjutsu....

Now marching ahead on theory that How the S06P got his kekkai Genkai......

As I have assumed above that the Juubi was the reason for the rise of Kekkai Genkai sect....

I believe that the Uzumaki's and the Hyaga's would have also got their inhuman life force and Byakugan from Juubi(explained above).

After a long sufferings in the war the Uzumaki's would have sought for peace as they are a peaceful clan.
They would have realized that the Juubi is indirectly incresing the intensity of war by his granted Chakra.

With their initial and raw Fuijutsu techniques they would have decided to seal Juubi as their first stage for retieving peace....

The sage of 6 paths would have also been a part of them.They would have tried to seal Juubi but it would have been unsuccesful because of the rawness of their techniques at that time and the Vastness of Juubi.Juubi in anguish would have killed the sealers and have instead swallowed the sage.

The sage would have stayed inside the Juubi for a time being in the similar fashion the Gold(Ginkaku) and Silver(Kinkaku) brothers did.The sage would have stayed inside Juubi and would have survived eating the flesh of Juubi which eventually lead the Juubi regurgitating him...

Hence this left the sage becoming a Pseudo Jinchuriki hence giving him the same chakra as of Juubi.
He would have been able to assimilate Juubi's Chakra by eating some of it's flesh because of its tought Uzumaki Lineage and the same type of special Chakra which Kushina Uzumaki had..


The Juubi's chakra also upgraded the Hyuga genes in him and transformed his eyes into the mighty dojutsu Rinnegan.....

He had the perfect Rinnegan because it was directly evolved from Juubi's Chakra only...

After coming out from Juubi he would have trained hard to to master his rinnegan and because of control on all nature tranformations he was more easily able to uncover and understand the secrets of Chakra and Ninjutsu....He would have combined the Uzumaki knowledge, Fuinjutsu techniques and his discoveries and would have designed the treasured tools.....

At last he faced the Juubi and was able to seal him and later became it's Jinchuriki...
After completing this impossible task he sailed out to the world enlightning people with his knowledge. He travelled across the land,

spreading his ideal and religion, the Shinobi Sect, which eventually came to be known as ninjutsu. His great deeds and ultimate desire to bring peace to the war-torn world made him widely known as the Savior of this World..
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Sorry sir,but its hard to understand what do you mean to say,please refine your reply and post again...
The gold and silver brothers survived inside the kyuubi by eating it's flesh and it was said they were only able to do it because of their relation to the so6p. So wouldn't it make sense that the only reason they could do it was because the sage also done it?


Great theory btw. This is definitely one of the creams to NB's theory crops.
I only have one thing to add, the sage didn't seal the juubi and then make himself it's jinchuriki. He became it's jinchuriki to seal it. Like you said the Uzumaki's traditional sealing methods only got them killed.

I also said he improvised the Uzumaki methods of sealing and did also designed the treasured tools.I believe he designed the treasured tools solely for the purpose of sealing Juubi like Kohaku no Jōhei and Benihisago and that is the reason why Kishi deleted these instruments from the plot by giving it to Tobi.
So I am on my word that he sealed the Juubi and then became its Jinchuriki.....

no doesn't make sense not knocking u tho good effort

:dunno: dumb ppl just accept bs because we are all feed bs every day so anything not bs is viewed as bs
too many ppl want to believe the sage is uzimaki its wide spread and when dressed up it seems logical but its not

if u only know wrong how can u do right? u can't because to u wrong is right

Everyone has his own views and so calling a set of people dumb just because they dont share your view's is really rude.
The people who say that sage was a Uzumaki or Hyuga including me have their own points,logics and Arguments..
It would be a better example if you would enlighten us that why do you think that these things doesn't make sense.You may have some better points'please let us know....
 

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Nice theory I really liked it ... I'm not buying the sage being inside the jubi tough ... I think that the Hyugga knew about chackra I think they are one if the oldest clan and the only ones with a dojutsu , but they did not use it in an elemental way (when do they ever?) so the sage I think had byukugan i could be wrong tough who knows But Kishi might pull something big out his auss lol
 

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im still not understanding, technically shouldnt the rinnegan bearers have both uchiha and senju lineage?(ps high hopes for naru hinas kids xD) so if thats the case i believe the juubi will have an interesting connection to 3 clans, uchiha hyuga and uzumaki. we'll have to see what kishimoto bears for us :p
 

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It's probably the greatest theory I have ever read! Everything's so detailed and explained clearly! To think that these details are taken from various parts of a 635 chapter manga!
 
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