[Theory] Origin of Senjutsu, Pure Sage mode and animals Sage mode...

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KCMNaruto

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INTRODUCTION​

Hello guys, I would like to talk about possible Origin of Senjutsu and more, so please be patient and stay focused as I will begin...

Many wondered about Origin of Senjutsu, so maybe what I will say what be new but still everything stated by this thread will have point.

ORIGIN OF SENJUTSU​
First let's explain what Senjutsu is:

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^^ Senjutsu is Shinobi art which absorb Nature Energy from outside and mix it with your own chakra(physical + spiritual energies) getting new powerfull type of chakra called Sage chakra.

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^^ Further explanation

Ok, so now we know that Senjutsu requires nature energy to works..., then let's seach for origin of nature energy...

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^^ Answer is simple, the Juubi is...

Now let's wonder who fought Juubi...

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We know that Sage of six paths at least met Juubi and sealed in himself... but most likely fought it as well... as to seal something you need first to weaken it...

Now let's wonder then how Sage of six paths could weaken Juubi to seal it and how his seal could be so powerfull to keep Juubi contained with him...

The answer is Simple, Juubi far outclassed Sage of six paths by raw power alone..., and to defeat much stronger opponent you need to use his own strength against him... but how...

Another simple conclusion, The Sage of six paths found out/figured out or maybe even created way to use Juubi power aka nature energy against it, but how could he do that...

Once again it is simple he absorbed Juubi nature energy weaken the monster while keep chakra and nature energy in balance... result was Sage chakra, new type of chakra which was much more powefull then normal chakra. That what is called " kill two birds with one stone ", make himself stronger while making opponent much weaker... that is exactly what The Sage of six paths did !

Pure Sage mode and Origin of Animal Sage mode​
Sage of six paths figured out way to absorb nature energy and use it along with his physical + spiritual energies(chakra) to get perfect balance between three energies creating new type of chakra: Sage mode...

This Sage mode was called Human/Pure Sage mode as no animals were involved in learing that Sage mode...

This Pure Sage mode was used to defeat and seal The Juubi...

However the Sage of six paths had three summons as: Toad, Slug, Snake and for their help he taught them Sage mode... however none of three animals could master Sage mode perfectly...so new three types of Sage mode were created from Pure Sage mode, there were: Toad Sage mode, Slug Sage mode, Snake Sage mode known as well as Dragon Sage mode. Each of Animal Sage mode was lacking something from pure Sage mode while having advantage of having something that other animal sage mode didn't have and opposite...

The First Toad was known as Great Toad Sage of Mountain Myoboku:

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The First snake was known as White Snake Sage of Ryūchi Cave:

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The First slug wasn't revealed yet.... but we know that it came from Shikkotsu Forest.

Only Younger Son of Sage of six paths:
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was able to fully master Pure Sage mode, which was given from generation to new generation, that is how Hashirama discovered about it

Younger Son wrote all his secrets somewhere as well... or know that by putting his or his descendant arm on the Sage's Tablet which he left and uchiha stole it and placed in his temple Senjuu could reach content of Tablet contain.

As sharingan can read tablet, same Senjuu could read tablet with putting just one hand on the stone
as MS could read even more, same Pure Sage mode allowed Senju to read even more
and The Rinnengan is final evolution for the both sides.

Sage of six paths connection with Great Toad Sage​
Interesting fact is that both Sage of six paths and Great Toad Sage posses ability to foretell future...

Sage of six paths :

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^^ Sage of six paths foretold young Tailed beasts that they will meet Sage's successor who will lead them down right path unlike himself.

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^^ This is one prophecy of Great Toad Sage made for Jirayia, but he gave prophecy to Naruto as well...

Unfortunetly a little to none is known about White Snake Sage as well as The most powerfull Slug in Shikkotsu Forest, so I can't make any other comparisons between them and The Sage...

Another Sage mode possible- hint​
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^^ Son Goku, four tails called himself The Sage King of The Apes from Suiren Cave...

maybe Sage of six paths taught four tails/Son Goku his Pure Sage mode as well... or there is chance for monkey Sage mode... Hiruzen anyone

Juugo and Senjutsu​
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^^ Kabuto mentioned that Juugo's source of power is Ryūchi Cave..., but I believe myself that Juugo clan is based on Juubi itself... only juubi and Juugo can absorb constanly nature energy even while moving...

The difference is that Juubi doesn't have chakra so he doesn't go mad, however Juugo has chakra so when amount of nature energy surprass his chakra and he can't balance three energies then he goes mad...

The result of taking too much nature energy in snake teaching is getting mad and can't control yourself while you turn into Stone in toad way of leaning lol.

- this my thread which more elaborate about Juugo...

That all ;)

Senjutsu users and Number of Sage modes.​
In the end I believe there are four types of Sage mode maybe five if Monkey Sage mode exists. One Pure Sage mode obtained in human way and three or four Animal Sage mode depends if Monkey Sage mode exists obtained in animal way.

Pure Sage mode= All Animal Sage modes combined

Pure Sage mode users : Sage of six paths, Very possible Younger Son of Sage of six paths, Hashirama and maybe Tobirama(If kishi give him Sage mode)

Toad Sage mode users : Great Toad Sage, Fukusaku, Shima, Jirayia, Naruto and maybe Minato(if Kishi gives him Sage mode)

Snake/Dragon Sage mode users : White Snake Sage, Kabuto and maybe Orochimaru(if Kishi gives him Sage mode)

Slug Sage mode users : Master or Mistress of Shikkotsu Forest, Tsunade(if Kishi gives her Sage mode) and maybe Sakura(low possibilty but depends on Kishi's whim)

Monkey Sage mode (if exists): Son Goku(Four tails), Monkey King Enma, Hiruzen

Conclusion:​
  • Creator of Senjutus is Sage of six paths himself...
  • Sage of six paths possesed Pure Sage mode, the most powerfull one
  • Pure Sage mode is combination of all animal Sage mode: Toad, Snake/Dragon and Slug Sage mode as known for now
  • Toad Sage mode, Slug Sage mode and Snake/Dragon Sage mode were created from Pure Sage mode
  • Sage of six paths had three summons: Toad, Snake and Slug, from all of them they are known together us:
    Toad: Great Toad Sage of Mountain Myoboku
    Snake: White Snake Sage
  • Sage of six paths taught Pure Sage mode to Toad, Snake and Slug but they were unable to master it fully so they adapted it to their own teaching ways and use.
  • There is possibility of Monkey Sage mode exists... unless Son goku was meaning pure sage mode taught to him by The Sage of six paths himself


Thanks for reading ;)
Please share your thoughts with me ;)
 
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Yeah, but gues who made that energy? Juubi bro. So all of you S06P fanboys should be kissing Juubi's a**.
 

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Yeah, but gues who made that energy? Juubi bro. So all of you S06P fanboys should be kissing Juubi's a**.

Lol I know that... but still Skills of using Juubi's power for himself that what put Sage of six paths above Juubi's raw power ;)
 

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Nice theory. Juugo's power didn't come from ryuchi cave.
 

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good theory,, seems possible,,, nice work:win:
 

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Nice theory! It could happen =) I hope it does ;) Thanks for sharing your theory with us :bouncy:
 

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Yeah, but gues who made that energy? Juubi bro. So all of you S06P fanboys should be kissing Juubi's a**.

Sage kinda pwnded and sealed juubi... And i dont see any fanboyism in this thread?
 

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goood as usual

Thanks a lot ;)

Nice theory. Juugo's power didn't come from ryuchi cave.

Thank you very much ;)

good theory,, seems possible,,, nice work:win:

Thanks !

Nice theory! It could happen =) I hope it does ;) Thanks for sharing your theory with us :bouncy:

No problem and thanks for agreement ;)

Yeah. But still bro.

That good... yeah I knowt that stating just Sage of six paths did everything himself is annoying when we know that Juubi is The progenitor of shinobi world... but still Sage of six paths deserves some credit for his amazing skills :), and Juubi for being source of almost everything of course ;)

Sage kinda pwnded and sealed juubi... And i dont see any fanboyism in this thread?

Exactly ;)
 
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Plausible theory but disagree with only point tell me one thing if sejus are capable of reading Uchiha tablet why Hashirama never tried to read, why Madara told him about tablet??
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Plausible theory but disagree with only point tell me one thing if sejus are capable of reading Uchiha tablet why Hashirama never tried to read, why Madara told him about tablet??
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True but Hashirama wasn't even surprised when Madara mentioned that stone monument...

Well there is possibility that Hashirama discovered that he can read stone monument before his death or later after Madara vs Hashirama battle in vote :),

Unless how can you explain that:

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How could he know about Rinne Tensei ? hmm...

Excellen theory

Thank you very much ;)

Tsunade has Dragon Sage mode?

Sorry I confused it with Slug Sage mode =D, now it is correct ;)

Thanks for spotting my mistake :)
 

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Plausible theory but disagree with only point tell me one thing if sejus are capable of reading Uchiha tablet why Hashirama never tried to read, why Madara told him about tablet??
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He said something about putting their hands on it. Maybe he means when they do that they can absorb the info. Or maybe they use sage mode sensing. which is basically seeing through the mind which is similar to karin.
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You are the second derp Obito on this side, KCM Naruto. I love your theories
 

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He said something about putting their hands on it. Maybe he means when they do that they can absorb the info. Or maybe they use sage mode sensing. which is basically seeing through the mind as shown by karin.
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Well I meant that you touch of Senjuu memeber is required (anywhere but has to be physical contact with it) then content wirtten on The Tablet will appear for Senjuu Member... Pure Sage mode could allows him to read even more with same physcial contact with Tablet.

It could simply works like that: Senjuu member put his hand on The Tablet... Tablet can somehow read finger prints, your DNA so it can confirm that you are really Senjuu or no. If you are then content of The Tablet will appear until physcial contact is kept after that content disappear...

Same as Uchiha can read it with Sharingan but after turn it off, content of the tablet disappear or can't be understood.

You are the second derp Obito on this side, KCM Naruto. I love your theories

Thanks a lot ;), I am glad you enjoy reading my thread :win:
 

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Good theory, bro!

This should further add to it, check it out!

 
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