[Theory] Onmyoudon can only be used in direct contact, Onmyoudon != black fluid

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys, I would like to share my theory about Onmyoudon being only usable by Ten tails hosts in direct contact. Here I go:

1) First I will base my theory on previously created thread:

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Now, I am going straight to the point:

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^^ Minato was hit by Ten tails Obito's staff directly, which led to loss of Minato's arm:

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Later Tobirama revealed that Obito as Ten tails host can also use Onmyoudon:

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Tobirama also later confirmed that Obito can only anihilate in meaning use Onmyoudon against someone if they jump behind him using FTG while COMMING IN DIRECT CONTACT:

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Another interesting notice could similliar move by which Madara cut Minato's other arm with his staff. It was again ONLY USED IN DIRECT CONTACT:

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^^ While there were a lot of opportunities for Ten tails hosts to use Onmyoudon to finish opponent/technique from distance, it has never happened, even in close direct contact so it leads to conclusion that Onmyoudon is not passive ability. It lead me to conclusion that to use Onmyoudon Ten tails hosts need to fulfill two requirements:

- be in direct contact with enemy(only close range techniques)
- need to keep constant control over Onmyoudon from activation until the end of use

Of course it may be possible but unimaginable hard to use Onmyoudon from distance, but it also could prove that onmyoudon can only be used in close direct contact.

Summary :​

• Onmyoudon is not easy to control. It requires a lot of focus and only work in limited close area while being in direct contact with target.
• To use Onmyoudon, you need to be be in direct contact with enemy(only close range techniques)
  and keep constant control over Onmyoudon from activation until the end of use
• Onmyoudon is not passive ability but active ability which can be only used manually by user
• Onmyoudon can be added to Black fluid or don't have to , but it can be added only in close combat
• Even in direct contact Onmyoudon may be not used constantly because it takes clearly a lot from the user, or is hard to master and use for longer period of time.

Thanks for reading !

Please share your thoughts

 

[-immortal-]

You could be right.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

I thought it was long established that it only worked if you touch the black balls

 

[The Western Wheel]

That's why Madara will be amazed when he gets hit with a Onmyoudon Rasengan soon

 

[Its sasukebase]

then what was of point madara trying to attack guy with the balls without him having contact with it. also tried to attack obito and kakashi with it.

 

[KCMNaruto]

You could be right.

Thanks you !

I thought it was long established that it only worked if you touch the black balls

well yes but you didn't get my point.

Black balls are simply advanced combination of four or five elements(better then KKT) and it has properties of Dust release.

While Onmyoudon can be use by black ball on remote distance, only when created or used while attacking someone in direct contact, after increasing distance Onmyoudon get disactivated or simply doesn't work.

That's why Madara will be amazed when he gets hit with a Onmyoudon Rasengan soon

^^ haha, exactly

then what was of point madara trying to attack guy with the balls without him having contact with it. also tried to attack obito and kakashi with it.

Here is your answer: Black balls are simply advanced combination of four or five elements(better then KKT) and it has properties of Dust release.

Black balls in essence works same as Jinton so if Kakashi, Obito or Gai came in contact with them then he would get atomized/ turns to dust. Although it is not perfect weapon for Edo Tensei which regenerates, it could be still very deadly and lethal for living people.

Of course it will not nullify attacks or defences but still can deal high level damage

I hope it clear your doubts

 

[TrollingSage]

Not convinced. The only time the black stuff didnt have nin jutsu erasing properties was when he didn't have control of the juubi. There And about and Sasuke's attack seemingly worked because they hit before he could protect himself with his big black balls. But he took no damage from the attack because the balls reached him almost immediately after he got hit. You haven't provided any conclusive evidence that the black stuff don't always contain Onmyoudon when used by a juubi host in control.

 

[Its sasukebase]

Thanks you !





Here is your answer: Black balls are simply advanced combination of four or five elements(better then KKT) and it has properties of Dust release.

Black balls in essence works same as Jinton so if Kakashi, Obito or Gai came in contact with them then he would get atomized/ turns to dust. Although it is not perfect weapon for Edo Tensei which regenerates, it could be still very deadly and lethal for living people.

Of course it will not nullify attacks or defences but still can deal high level damage

I hope it clear your doubts

edo tensei cant regenerate when hit by it, that why minato lost both of his arms. t

 

[Mad Daz]

Nice theory it could be true. If it is then minato will still be ok after taking those black balls to the face.

 

[KCMNaruto]

edo tensei cant regenerate when hit by it, that why minato lost both of his arms. t

well they can not regenerate from Onmyoudon which nullifies Ninjutsu, but still can regenerate from black stuff not infused with Onmyoudon, evidence : Hiruzen

Not convinced. The only time the black stuff didnt have nin jutsu erasing properties was when he didn't have control of the juubi. There And about and Sasuke's attack seemingly worked because they hit before he could protect himself with his big black balls. But he took no damage from the attack because the balls reached him almost immediately after he got hit. You haven't provided any conclusive evidence that the black stuff don't always contain Onmyoudon when used by a juubi host in control.

@ bold part, Well that could be just Obito infused Onmyoudon with his black stuff while leaving himself defenceless to Ninjutsu.
@ underlined part, You want evidence ?, then well Obito grabbing Naruto and Sasuke via black stuff shaped into arms or Gai comming through big black ball without any damage(according to you Onmyoudon should be here always so Gai would be erased or something).

The evidence alone is that: use of Onmyoudon is not passive trait but rather active trait for Ten tails host to use or not. Either way please explain cases pointed out by me , then I admit you are right and I am wrong


EDIT: I just come with great idea. Let's wait and see what will happen to Minato teleporting black balls with himself:
- (If he doesn't return at all then you are right)
- (if he return with only arms missing then I am right)

Do you want to take a bet ?

Nice theory it could be true. If it is then minato will still be ok after taking those black balls to the face.

^^ Thanks , also this is most likely outcome for Minato

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

Great theory bro