Theory on Why Obito can use only 1 Rinnegan but Nagato can use 2

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Nagato has more Chakra than Obito etc.
Hagoromo has not creat the Moon OMG

The theory that Obito had less chakra than Nagato is invalid. Hashirama's cells make up half of Obito's body. This gave him the ability to control six jinchurikis whereas Nagato was overwhelmed by just Kurama's chakra when he used a receiver to stab Naruto. Therefore, Obito has more chakra/stamina/life force than Nagato.
 

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Dude ...Obito has only a Senju DNA he is not a Senju WTF are you talking about....

Half of hashirama's tissue is in Obito

That's what the f*ck I'm posting about...

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Nagato was an Uzumaki just like Kushina and his life force was strong enough to hold two of Madara's Rinnegan. That's the reason why Madara had planned since long ago to give his eyes to Nagato and entrusted Obito to control him whenever the day Madara would be revived with Rinne Tensei. He used both of them. There is a reason why Nagato can use both Rinengan eyes, becuase Madara was the one who implanted them into Nagato's eyes.

The theory that Obito had less chakra than Nagato is invalid. Hashirama's cells make up half of Obito's body. This gave him the ability to control six jinchurikis whereas Nagato was overwhelmed by just Kurama's chakra when he used a receiver to stab Naruto. Therefore, Obito has more chakra/stamina/life force than Nagato.
 

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Obito is not half senju. He is full blooded Uchiha. He has Senju DNA implanted into his body to:

Keep him alive
Allow him to summon the Gedo Mazo

Where did you get he was half Senju?

half of his body is full of Hashirama tissue, that is what I'm posting here
 

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Wait, wait, wait. how do u come to the conclusion that madara is stronger than so6p, the sage was a complete juubi jinchuriki and had double rinnegan. current madara is no where near kaguya seeing how she had the juubi eye plus byakugan.

He doesn't have all the tailed beasts, but he absorbed the tree, so I'm assuming the tree is worth more than half of Kurama's chakra. I agree that he's weaker than Kaguya, I'm just assuming he's stronger than the sage because he absorbed the shinju
 
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This ^



and This ^

You are overcomplicating things:

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No where did he say he could have used or only used one Rinnegan for the theory you posted. Nagato could use both because he is an Uzumaki. Uzumaki's have a larger chakra pool than the Uchiha. It was because of this act that Madara chose Nagato knowing his chakra pool and the lineage that is connected to the Senju would allow him to summon the gedo mazo.

Obito didn't have more chakra then Nagato thus he was only able to use one eye. He even mentioned that even with one eye he was capable of doing all of this and he is not the original owner.

Yes Obito was capable of performing Basho Tenin and Shinra Tensei. But he didn't because his chakra was tied into controlling the 6 edo jin and their bijuu. had he not used them to fight he would have been Universally pulling and Almighty Pushing Naruto and company around like Nagato.

It's not as complicated as you have made it out to be. Obito didn't use the other Rinnegan simply because he couldn't

The theory that Obito had less chakra than Nagato is invalid. Hashirama's cells make up half of Obito's body. This gave him the ability to control six jinchurikis whereas Nagato was overwhelmed by just Kurama's chakra when he used a receiver to stab Naruto. Therefore, Obito has more chakra/stamina/life force than Nagato.
 

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Obito is not half senju. He is full blooded Uchiha. He has Senju DNA implanted into his body to:

Keep him alive
Allow him to summon the Gedo Mazo

Where did you get he was half Senju?

Hashirama's cells make up half of Obito's body. This gave him a ton of Chakra, so much that he could control six jinchurikis AND their tailed beasts. Whereas Nagato was overwhelmed by just Kurama's chakra when he used a receiver to stab Naruto. Therefore, Obito has more chakra than Nagato.

He's definitely half Senju at this point. Calling him a pure Uchiha is like calling Madara a pure Uchiha who without Hashi's DNA would not have gotten that huge boost in chakra
 

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1. Senjus don't have a bigger chakra pool than the Uzumaki that's a fact.
2. Obito only had Senju DNA. Doesn't mean he has Senju Chakra.

1. you don't know that, all we know is that they both have large chakra pools, no comparison was ever made by any of the media

2. The type of chakra doesn't matter, what matters is that had Obito had higher Chakra reserves than Nagato because he has half of Hashi's cells. Did you forget that He was able to control six jinchuurikis? Nagato on the other hand was completely overwhelmed by Kurama's Chakra
 
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What you guys do not undestand is that the samsara eye requires the user's life force to operate, ask yourselves why it was never implanted on an Uchiha. Nagato has more chakra and more life force than Obito simply because he is a full Senju not like Obito who just has half of his body made to it. You guys do realize right that Obito has a Zetsu body in his body whidh is a weaker version of Hashirama. Now Obito could not stand 2 rinnengans at once and Nagato could so Nagato's life force is stronger. Now stop being delusional guys...
 

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The thing is, Obito placed the rinnengan there by himself. Nagato obviously didn't. I am thinking Madara probably placed the rinnengan in Nagato, as we know he also placed his cursed seal in him.

So it's quite simple, Madara can do anything, any other explanation is invalid/pointless U_U

Besides, Nagato was much stronger than Obito at the time, when Obito took the rinnengan... At least his life force and chakra was much stronger. (doesn't mean he could beat him due to kamui)
 

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The thing is, Obito placed the rinnengan there by himself. Nagato obviously didn't. I am thinking Madara probably placed the rinnengan in Nagato, as we know he also placed his cursed seal in him.

So it's quite simple, Madara can do anything, any other explanation is invalid/pointless U_U

Besides, Nagato was much stronger than Obito at the time, when Obito took the rinnengan... At least his life force and chakra was much stronger. (doesn't mean he could beat him due to kamui)

I like the part about Madara helping out Nagato. It makes sense.

I have to disagree about Nagato having more chakra though, Hashirama's cells gave Obito the ability to control six jinchuuriki's at once. That's a lot of chakra. Compare that to Nagato who was overwhelmed by just a fraction of Kurama's chakra. but if what you say is true and Madara put a seal on Nagato that helped him or something, I would be satisfied
 

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The theory that Obito had less chakra than Nagato is invalid. Hashirama's cells make up half of Obito's body. This gave him the ability to control six jinchurikis whereas Nagato was overwhelmed by just Kurama's chakra when he used a receiver to stab Naruto. Therefore, Obito has more chakra/stamina/life force than Nagato.
Your point is invalid.
A weakened, handicapped, Nagato was overwhelmed by a non Genjutsu controlled, amped Sage Mode Kurama chakra.
Nagato was born as a Uzumaki, and thus has greater chakra/stamina/and life force then Obito. He was chosen because of his 'Senju lineage.'
Which enabled him to bear the two eyes. Its been made quite clear that being born into the bloodline grants greater power over it then implanting it.
Nagato had a lot of chakra, more then Naruto did in their confrontation.
I sure hope that you remember that the Mazo had no Tailed Beast in it that it needed to use Nagato's chakra to function. Which can be logicically mean that Nagato had straight up Tailed Beast level chakra seeing as he just lost weight, and his body was crippled further then it had been before when his legs got blown up, instead of just dying instantly.

Nagato also had Hashirama's chakra, because the Rinnegan eye itself has chakra within it, the combination of Indra and Ashura, or in this case a degraded version, Hashirama and Madara's chakra.
half of his body is full of Hashirama tissue, that is what I'm posting here
That doesn't make him half Senju, if he were half Senju, then he'd have to be born into the line, not having it implanted.
 
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half of his body is full of Hashirama tissue, that is what I'm posting here

but a watered down version.

and hashirama is special because he was ashura's reincarnation also.

why don't you compare him to tobirama? he's senju as well.
 
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The reason that Nagato could use two rinnegan without loosing his mind was:

 

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The reason that Nagato could use two rinnegan without loosing his mind was:


Except that he did not lose his mind, the only reason why he was in that state was because he had just seen his best friend die right in front of his very eyes, and had technically killed him with his own hands.
 

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The reason that Nagato could use two rinnegan without loosing his mind was:


He could, that's because Madara's will/chakra went through him with the chakra receivers. He was basically pumped with the overwhelming chakra which the eyes would "latch onto" being originally Madara's. It took extra for it to effect him.
 
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