Theory on why Hamura and Uzumaki may not be related...

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Please read first,and try to understand..
Everyone is saying the Uzumaki and the Hyuuga descend from Hamura's line..I don't know about the hyuuga but the uzumaki part if..if that's true then how can Naruto be Ashura's transmigrant( who is Hagoromo's not Hamura's son)...only the Senjus are said to have branched off from Ashura ,and Ashura's chakra will flow through the transmigrants of his descendant clan (Senjus) only...Didn't BZ say that he tried to get the transmigrant of Uchiha(Indra ) and Senju (Ashura ) to awaken the rinnegan ?Hence ,i think the Uzumaki branched off from the senjus.. and is not directly descended from Hamura...Please forgive me if i am wrong ,and post what you think...

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What i'm trying to say is
Hagoromo>Ashura>Senju(transmigrant)>Uzumaki(transmigrant)

Those who say Uzumaki is from Hamura are stating three cases
Hamura>Ashura>Senju(transmigrant)>Uzumaki(transmigrant)

or Hamura>Ashura>Uzumaki(transmigrant)..

Both are obviously not possible..Hence ,Uzumaki are not related to Hamura..

but third case ,The only way Uzumaki and Hamura can be related directly if Ashura's or Indra's chakra could flow in descendants of Hamura i.e Hamura's descendants could also serve as transmigrant of indra and ashura since they are related too..

So what do you think ?

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First Hamura has the Byakugan ! He is for the Hyuga !
And Naruto is the transmigration because he have the body power !
Hamura has the body and the eyes !
Hagoromo has the body and the eyes !

And Naruto at first was not from Hamura , he was Ashura !
And then he WILL BE Hamura because BZ said that they are kaguya's son !
 

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Naruto is not a real Uzumaki in the first place,he is a Namikaze
 

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The uzumaki clan uses the 8 trigrams sealing style.

And the hyuga use attack like 8 trigrams air palm or 8 trigrama revolving heaven.

Most likely both come from hamura's lineage
 

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The uzumaki clan uses the 8 trigrams sealing style.

And the hyuga use attack like 8 trigrams air palm or 8 trigrama revolving heaven.

Most likely both come from hamura's lineage

Then how is Naruto the transmigrant of Ashura who is Hagoromo's son ?
 

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There's also the whole body + eyes thing going. We now hagoromo's power was divided into eye and body with Uchiha and seniu, so hamura's powers being divided into eye and body with the hyuga and uzumaki would make sense, considering this manga's theme of yinyang, balance, and the assload of parallels...

Then how is Naruto the transmigrant of Ashura who is Hagoromo's son ?

why can't he be his transmigrate without being his descendant?

By this logic, why is sasuke being compared to Hamura when he's clearly Indra's child?
 
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It would be weird if Hamura is descendant of Uzumaki and Hyuuga.
That would mean Naruto is going to be with his distant cousin.


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There's also the whole body + eyes thing going. We now hagoromo's power was divided into eye and body with Uchiha and seniu, so hamura's powers being divided into eye and body with the hyuga and uzumaki would make sense, considering this manga's theme of yinyang, balance, and the assload of parallels...



why can't he be his transmigrate without being his descendant?

By this logic, why is sasuke being compared to Hamura when he's clearly Indra's child?
Perfect like what I have said !
 

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I agree
Uzumakis came from senjus and ashuras descendants
They have the same chakra signature
 

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Naruto is the transmigrant by technicality

i dont know how cousins are viewed as from where u come from, but in this region they are equal to member of the "nucleus" family
 

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Senju bloodline was stopped because Tsunade didnt have a child when the cycle continued
 

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i really skip the good part.

OT:eek:k, doubt it.
 

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Wtf are you talking about? Since when?
Ashura inherited the sages life-force
Life-force is the basis of yang chakra and uzumakis are known for their life-force
Narutos signature is the exact opposite of sasukes

Warm and bright represents yang
 

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There's also the whole body + eyes thing going. We now hagoromo's power was divided into eye and body with Uchiha and seniu, so hamura's powers being divided into eye and body with the hyuga and uzumaki would make sense, considering this manga's theme of yinyang, balance, and the assload of parallels...



why can't he be his transmigrate without being his descendant?

By this logic, why is sasuke being compared to Hamura when he's clearly Indra's child?


Its Naruto being a Transmigrant that creates a disperancy in the hamura theory..Naruto has to be related to Ashura..that's how the transmigrant thing work....Ashura's chakra flows through the transmigrants from his clan only..All the previous transmigrants were senjus who were related to Ashura...hence Naruto or the Uzumaki are not directly related to Hamura....

Unless you believe Kaguya reminding Naruto and Sasuke of her sons ,bypasses the Transmigrant theory ..Uzumaki are not descended from Hamura..

Kaguya was ''reminded'' of her son's from naruto and sasuke due to how well they got along,it was nowhere stated that the clan ascension was the cause of it..
 
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