Theory: Naruto is the stronger than anyone else and why!!!

Do you Agree or not

  • i agree

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MickNerks

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At first I was just laughing at your dumb fanboy post, then you said what? The 1rst won the battle with Madara.The 1rst defeated Madara Uchiha with EMS and the Kyubi. :flaw: What the hell are you smoking? Second of all, you seem to be forgetting the fact that there is a completely op edo madara that still wipes the floor with Naruto. Additionally, you are seriously undermining the fact that other characters have yet to max out with their abilities. Your forgetting Sasuke completely. I am not a fangirl of Sasuke or Naruto, I like to see both sides. And by the way Naruto has the help of killer bee(8 tails), guy and kakashi. Don't give me this shit that he is the strongest ninja, because if not for help both Naruto and Sasuke would be dead. Then again, so would every damn op character in the series.

Ok first of all im going to need you to chill out, the post you quoted says that he was at his limited (which means exhausted). In no way, shape, or form did i say he lost to madara. Its common knowledge that he won, and i you dont think the first was tired after a TWO DAY BATTLE then u are smoking something.

second no where in my 1st post did i say naruto was the strongest (and i tired of people saying that i said it), i said to read the situation and tell me who could beat him. the ONLY person who people have completely justified was kabuto..

please dont assume that im some stupid fanboy because im not, i simply had an idea of a situation and posted it. you are the one sounding ignorant because EITHER you didnt read what i wrote clearly or you are just asumming thing..

ONCE AGAIN I NEVERRR SAID NARUTO WAS THE STRONGEST, only that he was very powerful now.. we all know th so6p is stronger.. please read before you assume next time because people like you who try to tell me what i said are annoying. thank you.
 

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1. the 5 minute limit has nothing to do with him losing chakra, its just that was the first time and they were us to merging there chakra that long.. and the naruto that stopped the wood tech was a clone and not the original, so it was actually amazing that he could do as much as he did since he was only a clone. and he has already used 6 sage clone at one when he fought pain.

2. edo madara is undead so he isnt gonna die regardless, but i see no one ever says regular madara becaus they know naruto would whoop his @$$.. stop saying edo madara and just say kabuto because that is who they are really fighting.

3. naruto can beat nagato, he just stated when they fought that he forgot all his abilities, but seriously THE RINNEGAN WAS BEATIN BY A SHARINGAN, im pretty sure if naruto buts his head on right he can beat nagato, because nagato has already been defeated twice..

  1. Once naruto loses his BM after 5 mins he is screwed. I dont need to explain how nagato owned the KM. The clone borrowed chakra from kurama and the chakra finished without getting rid of all the trees. At that rate, naruto will lose all his clones b4 the fight has started properly. He could only make 3 sage clones against pain :flaw:
  2. I say edo madara because he is really intending to kill the kages because it is part of his plan. You dont see him revealing his weakness like other edos. And kabuto only needs edo madara (ems + rinnegan madara + hashirama) to defeat naruto anyways. :shrug:
  3. Nagato was fighting the two strongest jinchiruukis and itachi at the same time. Nagato will destroy naruto if he combines with his six paths and summons his six paths with him like tobi did, because nagato is a better rinnegan user. :p
 
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  1. Once naruto loses his BM after 5 mins he is screwed. I dont need to explain how nagato owned the KM. The clone borrowed chakra from kurama and the chakra finished without getting rid of all the trees. At that rate, naruto will lose all his clones b4 the fight has started properly. He could only make 3 sage clones against pain :flaw:
  2. I say edo madara because he is really intending to kill the kages because it is part of his plan. You dont see him revealing his weakness like other edos. And kabuto only needs edo madara (rinnegan madara + hashirama) to defeat naruto anyways. :shrug:
  3. Nagato was fighting the two strongest jinchiruukis and itachi at the same time. Nagato will destroy naruto if he combines with his six paths and summons his six paths with him like tobi did, because nagato is a better rinnegan user. :p

1. when karuma gave that 1 clone SOME chakra, the clone split into 20+ more clones all holding big ball rasengans.. basically a drained clone on his last leg aquired SOME chakra and used all of it to do what he could to STOP the trees.

2. I agree with you, without sealing jutsu naruto cant fight edo madara beause he cant die and has unlimited chakra.. so you are right on that point.

3. dont forget naruto took out 5 of the pains by himself and 1 with help from karuma.. so he did beat pain/nagato.. he just didnt get to kill nagato because he killed himself.
 

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1. when karuma gave that 1 clone SOME chakra, the clone split into 20+ more clones all holding big ball rasengans.. basically a drained clone on his last leg aquired SOME chakra and used all of it to do what he could to STOP the trees.

2. I agree with you, without sealing jutsu naruto cant fight edo madara beause he cant die and has unlimited chakra.. so you are right on that point.

3. dont forget naruto took out 5 of the pains by himself and 1 with help from karuma.. so he did beat pain/nagato.. he just didnt get to kill nagato because he killed himself.

Glad we agree with each other :izuna:
 

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I say Naruto will be #1, because the series is called Naruto

If you really want any other ending other then Naruto wins, you can throw in Sasuke and say Naruto+Sasuke will win

All these long, calculated arguments of Madara+Kabuto+Tobi w/e..will somehow "screw" Naruto..or "his luck will run out" are just fan boy debates..

I don't even like Naruto as a character, my favorite happens to be Pain/Pein/Nagato with a list of others above Naruto, and Sasuke is at the very bottom..I like TenTen more then Sasuke..

but i'm not blind enough to see that in the end Naruto>all OR Naruto+Sasuke>all(pends on how sasuke ends up..)

Now..currently who do I think is top as far as power..is Edo Madara, just because he has Hashirama skill set+Rinnegan, not even because of the super hype of Kishi, but the fact that Mokoton is the ultimate Bijuu capture weapon and is the best heal spam you could get, this would make him, in my opinion, the "2 path version" of the So6P, 1/3 the power of So6P, kinda like the 4-tail version of Kyuubi.
Why? Because right now he has "Body" and "Eyes" of the Sage, and his chakra/use of the Rinnegan is from what we have seen far more devastating then Nagatos, he could be a "n00b" with Mokoton tho, we have nothing to compare it to but Yamato, unless we see more of Hashi..

a mini version of So6P, yes..but what makes the So6P so "godly" is not the "Eyes" or "Body" or even Juubi honestly..it was the fact that he captured/beat the Juubi and then became its Jinchuuriki..making his power before the 10-tails actually greater then 10-tails, him gaining the 10-tails aswell just boosted his original power that much more

I doubt even as an Edo that Madara could do this, as I said I see him as 1/3rd the So6P's original power as he is currently and thats only because hes immune to damage..and can only be sealed away, not killed, as he is already dead..we probably won't even see anyone beat Edo Madara, Edo Tensei will probably be stopped before Madara kills the Kage..so we probably won't know who was actually greater then Edo Madara, but eventually Naruto is bound to surpass not only this, but So6P as well, as the goal is "True Peace" in the world

but in the end-game, Naruto will win, even if Sasuke and Naruto both die in some epic battle, Naruto will win, because the Ninja world will leave hatred behind because of his actions..as that has been not only Naruto's goal, but his master, Jiraiya and his sibling disciple, Nagato as well the So6P himself

So yeah..Naruto>all no matter what..its bound to happen one way or another
 

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All this talk about Edo Madara and his invincibility because he has the 1st cells. However, couldn't Naruto in Kyuubi mode just turn him into a giant tree? As I recall Naruto's chakra automatically affects the wood structures created by Yamato. Why wouldn't Naruto affect the First's cells in the same manner?
 

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he deffinately does not have near unlimited chakra considering right now he is laying in the mud half dead from using all the chakra... epic fail :)
 

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Deja-vu..it's as if I have seen this thread before..Naruto is definitely not the strongest character.
 

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well naruto is not ya forgot about minato he is the strongest and fastest ever lived dude can beat kurama
 

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:scorps:Not yet but I think in 50 chapters he will be unbeatable:D
 
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Here is why I agree Naruto will become the strongest. "Will." I do not believe Naruto as of manga 580, is the strongest Ninja warrior.

Okay let's Start off with the Original Sage of 6th path. Legend says he appeared out of know where, he had the body, and the eyes (rinnegan right) He fought the 10 tailed beast, and became the first Jinchuuriki. Right? However, I am a little lost on why he no longer existed, because he had all that power, and "the body." Also some statements of people having the body live long lives, and other things that speaks of immortality. This idea that I am about to say, is a little extreme, I know that. But it said one person will become the sage, a deity of god, which was the original one, and by all knowledge Gods do not die, right? So if the first Sage of sixth is a God, did he really die?

Anyways, I'm only stating this because how "Tobi" comes into play. How this Person knows so mucha bout everything, and he seems to predict many things. I think he purposely set up Minato to make Naruto a Jinchuuriki. I think he has been making plans to make people into The sage of Sixth Path. That is why legend says they can be truly evil sages, or truly bless. I think he is trying to find the one to bring ultimate peace. Which is in fact his main goal in his plan to create eternal peace. However, this maybe a scheme just to bring fourth destruction, turmoil, and to eventually weed out everyone, until he finds the strongest suitor, which is probably deemed Naruto.

I only say this, because Legend said Madara unlocked Rinnegan before he died, he died because he didn't have the body, or chakra to sustain the ocular power of Rinnegan, that is why he died, or possibly used a last resort jutsu to temporarily put his body in a vessel "zetsu" in order to eventually get a new body that can give him what he wants.

That last sentence conflicts with the idea of the original sage finding a new Sage to bring peace. SO Actually I'm saying Tobi might be a Sage or some force trying create a new Predecessor, or it could really be Madara who became the Second sage of Sixth Path but died because he didn't have the body. SO he is on a hunt to find a worth body??? Which he may have weeded out to be Naruto. I also say this, because There was a Quote by Madara saying, that he feels alone in the world, and he doesn't understand a lot of things, but he felt like he has to fix the world all by himself, which is why he wants to have the sage body, which he needs Naruto, and use all the 9 tails beast to make the 10 and become that Jinchuuriki.

I say that, also because when he visited Nagato, and said look your hair became white, he used too much chakra, and his Uzumaki body wasn't strong enough. Also Nagato isn't a Jinchuuriki like Naruto, this making Naruto having a stronger body, and have higher Chakra level.

However, also Remember when Naruto talked, and helped Son Goku. By doing all this, it Showed how Naruto truly is different. He has the will, the body, also is a Jinchuuriki. These are all facts so far. I think he is eventually is going to have all the Tailed on his side, and I think they will all lend him their powers. Which is different from the Original Sage who fought them and became the Jinchuuriki. That is why Naruto is going to be better than the Original Sage, be being able to have Peace with The 9 tails, or making them back into the 10 tailed, and taming that, and becoming the sage?

I think that this is Possible, I mean the Manga is Called Naruto for a reason.

Obviously the first sage was powerful, and created the Ninja world, but failed to bring peace, right?

So they need someone to be greater than the Original Sage, or as great. Thus creating Naruto from all the histories Turmoil.

Through out the Manga their is little hints about Naruto, like Jirayia's Book, Because Naruto Inherited the will too!

I hope I made my point across, I know it's going to be broken a part by many, especially I Know I have horrible Grammar, and sentence structures etc.

But this is just an Idea. We wont know until the Manga is finished.

However, if my Idea actually become true, I gave the people reading this heads up.

Thanks, Guys.

I love reading everyones Ideas.

Oh btw, I think that Sasuke shouldn't get Rinnegan, or actually maybe that is how Naruto obtains them, maybe Sasuke gives Naruto his eyes.

I am just stating that, because all these motifs of Eye giving, right? Just an idea. I think Something tragically has to happen in order for Naruto to Awaken more things to become the sage, but that is why he can revive all those who sacrificed so much for Naruto.
 

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they can have prep to, but if they do the only person going toe to toe is kabuto until naruto easily kills him.. naruto has numbers and kabuto has numbers.. naruto has more speed and power.

If the other person can have prep time, Kabuto can just use some of his lab rats (I'm assuming he still experiments with people) to sacrifice them for Edo Tensei. Now who's going to win?
 

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well naruto is not ya forgot about minato he is the strongest and fastest ever lived dude can beat kurama

ur mistaken.. it was karuma who killed minato, it was naruto's mom who held him down long enought for minato to use demon seal to seal the yang chakra.. without naruto's mom more damage would have been dont to the village.. but thank you for your statement, you just gave me the idea for another post.
 

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I know who can beat Edo Madara easily.. the person is dead but this person can beat him.
 

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finally the thread has died.lol

Lol took a while. I usually just read on until I get to the last post and post my opinion there. Usually though, the thread gets locked xd Anyway, I believe that in the situation you put forth that he is unstoppable, however at this point in the manga he can't do that (At least I don't think so) But throughout this thread, I've seen that people kept bringing up people that were dead or could not fight. I'm saying that most of the characters now are OP, and that's okay. It's getting near the end, and I suppose that's the best time to make a bunch of OP characters.

But I'm not sure whether to categorize Edo Tensei as a summoning or not. In a way, I feel that it is. But for me I think it's whose Edo Tensei it is. Orochimaru's felt more incomplete to me personally because Edo Hashirama and Tobirama didn't really have personality, whereas Kabuto's Edo Tensei gives his (summons, whatever you want to call them) personality and train of thought. Although they can't necessarily control themselves, they can converse like a real, alive person would. Unlike an undead "Summon". So even if Edo Tensei is classified as a summoning I'll always feel more like it isn't. I think that's about the only reason people count Edo Madara in as a candidate to beat Naruto, because he has personality like all of Kabuto's other (Summons) and is undoubtedly the strongest one. Anyway, I'm rambling. I do respect your opinion and that even though I felt it was a tiny bit biased at first (the title) You warmed up to others' ideas which isn't something many people can do. Also, you didn't really let it get to you. And for that, +rep
 

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ur mistaken.. it was karuma who killed minato, it was naruto's mom who held him down long enought for minato to use demon seal to seal the yang chakra.. without naruto's mom more damage would have been dont to the village.. but thank you for your statement, you just gave me the idea for another post.

Im sorry but karuma never killed minato :S yes karuma could have ended it all with one hit if minato wasnt aided coz hed never have had time to form the seal, but regardless of wether kushina helped or not, minato died because he was sealed into the demons belly not because karuma killed him :)
 
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