~THEORY~ Madara's trump card! ~THEORY~

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Hey, as always I know this may seem stupid too alot of you, but I don't care 1 bit, and if you comment something stupid in the hope of making me mad you've already failed.
Let's begin.

We all know Madara has a 'trump card', but what it is?
My guess is that it's something that even Obito can't defeat, Madara seems waaay too calm at this point.

So here's my theory, It's
Rin.

Right, let's begin with WHY this would be effective as Madaras' trump card.
As we know, Obito is madly in love with Rin ( Kinda creepy ) so he'd probably listen to her OR do what was necessary to save her.

Now, something you may be asking yourself is
How is this possible? she's dead!

But is she?
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Here, we clearly see that Kakashi killed 'Rin' himself, so it's safe too say the deed is done.
Or is it?
Doesn't it seem a bit too coincidental that Obito saw this happen? and that this is EXACTLY what Madara needed too happen for Obito to accept his plan, and work as his slave?
If this didn't happen, things would've happened ALOT differently for the Narutoverse.

So what, she's dead and Kakashi killed her, you saying this isn't going to make that un-true

My theory is that 'Rin' was either a clone or a Zetsu, it would've been no large feat for Madara too set this up so that Obito had the seeds of madness planted in his mind, and in turn, became his follower.

PLEASE READ THESE SPOILERS!!!
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And then zetsu says this.
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The first image, she get's a whole panel just too say that, it's fairly focused.
and then they say that too him?
that's either a MEGA coincidence or it's Kishi trolling us from t

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Madara also had use of Rinne tensi at the time, so he could have had her reborn easily.

Anyway, either things happened in the best possible way for Madara or he planned this.
Discuss.
 
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I like the sound of that. A zetsu could easily use full body transformation like Kisame so konoha would have no idea even when they buried her dead body. This thread isn't stupid its genius

My question is, how would Madara bring her? using summoning jutsu, has he been preserving her inside a jar or something? that sounds kinda creepy
 
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A few pages before he told obito he will repay him. He already knew obito would listen to him cause he set it all up. No surprise if the nins that caused the cave in were madaras men.
 

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Thing is those Kiri nin knew she was a Jin, meaning she must have had the Jin sealed in her in Kiri. Make sense?

Then, take into account the fact that the 3 Tails was, by Shippuden, free living in the lake.

Rin isn't as strong as Kushina so the removal of the 3 Tails would have killed her.

I do agree that Madara had engineered the whole event, but I don't think she's alive...
 

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I like the sound of that. A zetsu could easily use full body transformation like Kisame so konoha would have no idea even when they buried her dead body. This thread isn't stupid its genius

Everything here works.

And cmon, it's VEEEERRRYY chancy that it all played out to Madara's best interest, infront of Obito.

Thing is those Kiri nin knew she was a Jin, meaning she must have had the Jin sealed in her in Kiri. Make sense?

Then, take into account the fact that the 3 Tails was, by Shippuden, free living in the lake.

Rin isn't as strong as Kushina so the removal of the 3 Tails would have killed her.

I do agree that Madara had engineered the whole event, but I don't think she's alive...


I thought about this, and well.
It'd take much longer for the 3 tails too re-appear of natural causes than what it did, and if lady Chiyo could bring Gaara back, why couldn't A zetsu just use the same Jutsu?
If Chiyo can do it, Madara could too ( Possibly using the gedo OR rinne tensi )
 
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Thing is those Kiri nin knew she was a Jin, meaning she must have had the Jin sealed in her in Kiri. Make sense?

Then, take into account the fact that the 3 Tails was, by Shippuden, free living in the lake.

Rin isn't as strong as Kushina so the removal of the 3 Tails would have killed her.

I do agree that Madara had engineered the whole event, but I don't think she's alive...

How do we know for sure that Rin was the jinchuuricki? Its just what she/zetsu clone said to kakashi
 

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Possible imo.
 

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Hmm, far-fetched....but also plausible.
But...where would Rin be now?
 

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I too think madara set it all up and will somehow use rin to get at obito but if its some form of trick, obitio will see through it now.
 

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How do we know for sure that Rin was the jinchuuricki? Its just what she/zetsu clone said to kakashi

This, it could have been completely set-up and Madara is no idiot.

I like the sound of that. A zetsu could easily use full body transformation like Kisame so konoha would have no idea even when they buried her dead body. This thread isn't stupid its genius

My question is, how would Madara bring her? using summoning jutsu, has he been preserving her inside a jar or something? that sounds kinda creepy

In response to your question.
She could be under a Genjutsu or in the same state Yamato is in, not ageing and unharmed.
Could be summoned or simply tells Obito about it, it's easily enough to rouse his curiosity.
 
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Madara trump card is Kushina or Mito. Or just a regular jutsu. Why do everyone thinks it's an edo
 

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i didnt read after you said it is rin..
because i agree..
i guess rin would be the perfect choice.
even if madara summons rin via edo tensei..
talk no jutsu will work and obito will calm down..
madara wont let that opportnity go.
so i guess madara can use rin as an emotional blackmail lol
 

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Madara trump card is Kushina or Mito. Or just a regular jutsu. Why do everyone thinks it's an edo

I don't think it's edo at all, I'm saying that Rin never died.
And if she did, Rinne tensi is always there to bring her back.
 

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Does anybody remember this panel?
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'Im watching you'

Then this next panel:
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'We are watching you'

This makes me think Zetsu and Rin are linked somehow like you theory stated.
 

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I don't think it's edo at all, I'm saying that Rin never died.
And if she did, Rinne tensi is always there to bring her back.

Rin did die becuase the three tailed have a new host. If Rin didn't die the Akatsuki wouldn't have had the three tailed
 

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Does anybody remember this panel?
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'Im watching you'

Then this next panel:
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'We are watching you'

This makes me think Zetsu and Rin are linked somehow like you theory stated.

Adding it too my original post, I knew of this but didn't remember it at the time, Thank you <3
 

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Does anybody remember this panel?
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'Im watching you'

Then this next panel:
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'We are watching you'

This makes me think Zetsu and Rin are linked somehow like you theory stated.


Omg how i didn't noticed this !!
 

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Hmm, far-fetched....but also plausible.
But...where would Rin be now?

it was all a set up to begin with.. kishi is a genius writer with some things .. <_<

Rin is underground attached to a zetsu (zetsu don't eat nor need to to survive) OR
Rin is inside of Obito's body right now via zetsu.. or even in Kamui somewhere.

but who knows U_U
 
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