[Theory] Madara's info On Kamui and the reason Why sasuke couldn't use Susanoo

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Hello everyone and welcome to my thread , so today i m gona discuss about the two things mention in the thread title so lets start

So first of all madara s info on kamui doesn't it seem a bit strange to you that He had a ton of knowledge on kamui and how it works

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So it passed right through you , So this is the true power of that right eye of yours not only did he said this while he was super calm and not surprised but he also had Other knowledge on how one eye works and how the other works their exact range and so on

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Not only that be he also had the Knowledge That in order for obito to Teleport himself at the other dimension He has to Materilize where di he even learn that ?

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He also knew that Obito has the the eye that has the short range kamui And kakashi has the long range kamui but how did he knew this ?

Well i believe that he saw the jutsu before he also named it in his analyzation which leads me to believe that He has seen it before in his brother's eyes not only was he not surpirsed that obito can pass through objects but he also knew that the eye that passes through objects is the short range one on top of that he had a fantastic knowledge on the teleportation itself and also he knew that obito had to materialize in order to teleport with kamui he also knew about the other eye as well he also named the jutsu which leads me to believe Izuna most likely possesed kamui

Theory number 2

So we all know sasuke just threw himself at madara and not only did he not use susanoo Like at all but he also didn't even react at all At any kind of attack In the last chappter i think kishi became a good boy and game us a possible explanation i m not really sure about this but i think its possible anyways here it goes

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Madara s words are the same as : Maybe I should get this over with quickly and use limbo No I shouldn't while obito has the rinnegan

Now the first sentence means that Madara has a jutsu in his arsenal that can End this quickly and that is limbo which we know Doesn't even let you move at all However the second sentence can be intercepted in two ways One is that since obito has the rinnegan he can counter Limbo the other one is My theory itself on the Jutsu maybe limbo temporarly disables everything including eyes as well after all why would madara hold itself back if it didn't had a side effect to the eyes itself after all he said it himself I could end this quickly which leads me to believe that sasuke itself was paralyzed completly by limbo not only that but he also had his eyes s power disabled including susanoo anyways this is my theory hope you enjoy it and thnx for reading my thread :D
 

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He knows about Kamui due to being Obito's former teacher. Its not surprising considering Konan(former ally) and HQ knew about(due to Kakashi).
 

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He knows about Kamui due to being Obito's former teacher. Its not surprising considering Konan(former ally) and HQ knew about(due to Kakashi).

Why would he say this then ?
So it passed right through you , So this is the true power of that right eye of yours
 

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Why would he say this then ?
So it passed right through you , So this is the true power of that right eye of yours

Because he was his former teacher and knows about Obito. Same thing with Konan and HQ.
 

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Because he was his former teacher and knows about Obito. Same thing with Konan and HQ.

Do you think kishi would waste a pannel just to say That as i said he just got the info on this Also how can you explain he knew about kakashi ?
 

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Do you think kishi would waste a pannel just to say That as i said he just got the info on this Also how can you explain he knew about kakashi ?

So apparently a panel where Madara says ''this is the true power of your right eye'' is mysterious? ._. . As i said, Madara knows about it because he was his former teacher. Just like Konan, a former ally of Obito. Just like HQ knew about it since they were given information.

Reread Obito and Madara's meeting. Obito said he had given his eye to Kakashi multiple times to Madara. Not to mention Black Zetsu passed down information to his master. That's how he knows about him.
 

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Agree on the first, the seoncd one is wrong cause Madara didn't want to damage his eye, its not that obito coud counter it, its that he didnt want to damage his own eye.
 

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So apparently a panel where Madara says ''this is the true power of your right eye'' is mysterious? ._. . As i said, Madara knows about it because he was his former teacher. Just like Konan, a former ally of Obito. Just like HQ knew about it since they were given information.

Reread Obito and Madara's meeting. Obito said he had given his eye to Kakashi multiple times to Madara. Not to mention Black Zetsu passed down information to his master. That's how he knows about him.

I didn't see zetsu Inform Madara On anyway about kamui neither did madara see it alot On top of that he had only seen it once and by this i mean if Only if he was the one that pulled the strings that killed Rin and made obito awaken the mangekyou .. Unlike konan which has seen it multiple times has had time to analize it heck she even knew about the 5 mins .... When i was talking about kakashi i was not talking about kakashi having obitos s sharingan i was talking about madara Knowing that Kakashi has the long range kamui

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Agree on the first, the seoncd one is wrong cause Madara didn't want to damage his eye, its not that obito coud counter it, its that he didnt want to damage his own eye.

Well Thnx for the first mate and that s what i basicly said Limbo damages the eye in some way that s why madara didn't wana use it on obito
 

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I didn't see zetsu Inform Madara On anyway about kamui neither did madara see it alot On top of that he had only seen it once and by this i mean if Only if he was the one that pulled the strings that killed Rin and made obito awaken the mangekyou .. Unlike konan which has seen it multiple times has had time to analize it heck she even knew about the 5 mins .... When i was talking about kakashi i was not talking about kakashi having obitos s sharingan i was talking about madara Knowing that Kakashi has the long range kamui

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Well Thnx for the first mate and that s what i basicly said Limbo damages the eye in some way that s why madara didn't wana use it on obito

Oh, ok, i thought u meant that the other rinnegan counters Madara's rinnegan, sorry m8 :D
 

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Oh, ok, i thought u meant that the other rinnegan counters Madara's rinnegan, sorry m8 :D

haha Nahh man it was just a small Misunderstanding ^__^ anyway we have the same opinion :p great minds think alike :p
 

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Black Zetsu was informing [ ]. Actually Madara has seen long range Kamui of Kakashi when the latter used it on Gedo Mazo [ ] [ ], which he said its nothing he cant handle, implying he knows about it through Obito and black Zetsu.
 

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Black Zetsu was informing [ ]. Actually Madara has seen long range Kamui of Kakashi when the latter used it on Gedo Mazo [ ] [ ], which he said its nothing he cant handle, implying he knows about it through Obito and black Zetsu.

I never saw black zetsu inform him About kamui anyways its a possabillity after All since they can contact.. maybe its this maybe its mine its 50/50 after all i don't think kishi would have left this important information unnoticed but this is just my opinion
 

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He probably got the intel from BZ when he was revived, tbh... While he was telepathically talking to him, BZ probably told him about kakashi's kamui and obito's kamui weaknesses.
Who knows, maybe zetsu was even still able to communicate with him while obito was in control of their shared body.
 

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He probably got the intel from BZ when he was revived, tbh... While he was telepathically talking to him, BZ probably told him about kakashi's kamui and obito's kamui weaknesses.
Who knows, maybe zetsu was even still able to communicate with him while obito was in control of their shared body.

maybe i think kishi should have touched on this a bit more :p

He knows because of Zetsu.

Maybe :p
 

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Madara just evaluated Obito's technique right on the spot, no doubting that at all.

However, Madara didn't use his Limbo variations because he taught Obito Rikudou Justus as well.

He would know the weakness to them after all, we did just see Obito use Inyouton to create that staff.
 

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Madara just evaluated Obito's technique right on the spot, no doubting that at all.

However, Madara didn't use his Limbo variations because he taught Obito Rikudou Justus as well.

He would know the weakness to them after all, we did just see Obito use Inyouton to create that staff.

This one s possible as well nice idea mate :D

this right here =D

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