Theory: Madara Will Come Back After Edo Release!

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Hey guys,

So basically, we have seen that Madara will be 'released' as Edo is dispelled, his perfect Susano'o etc, and what seems to be all of his strength is fading back to the other world, furthermore Madara has been hinted to leaving (even if he hasn't totally left yet, which Kishi has left for PlotnoJutsu.)

Now if Madara does end up being released - everyone would think he had been trolled, all this hype of Madara, build up and demonstration of power - just to be dispelled.
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This is where it becomes interesting, Madara was NOT sealed!!
If he is released his soul is still in existence - it wont be sealed!


Now how he will come back again:
With Madara's soul still free, he could be brought back again through Edo, but its unlikely as it doesn't seem like Tobi's style.
Furthermore - it is evident from Madara's comment about Nagato upon summoning that there was already a plan to revive Madara, Tobi even states himself when Nagato betrayed him that the outer path's ability was 'meant for me' - Madara who he was impersonating at the time.

This leads me to believe that Tobi - with his Rinnegan abilitiy, will use the outer path to revive Madara.

I understand that Rinne Tensei can only be used on people who died recently but

What if because Madara has been dispelled, it applies to him too, Perhaps Tobi has a greater control over the Rinnegan than Nagato did - and therefore he can bring people back to life irrelevant.

This would mean - the Kage's would have time to retreat and recover, from a losing battle, Tobi would retreat from the battle he is losing with Bee, Naruto, Kakashi and Gai, and would allow Tobi to reinforce his battle stance.

What do you think about my theory?
 

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It's a good theory, and I hope it happens because I really like Madara.

I just hope the Kages don't go, "This is our chance to seal him!" Then seal him while he's disappearing. That would so troll Madara.
 

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Show me the proof to suggest that the Rinne Tensei can only be used on people who died recently please. Also, technically, they've been dead for a few seconds. Proof; When Zabuza was resurrected he said that he remember dying or something like that and waking up "here" (Earth). Basically, to them it feels like a few seconds/minutes maybe even days.
 

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Tobi does not have more control then Nagato

that said. I believe Madara died rather recently. How else would he know Nagato/ planned to be revived by rinne tensei. He lived up to a few weeks before the invasion of Konoha. in my opinion
 

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Show me the proof to suggest that the Rinne Tensei can only be used on people who died recently please. Also, technically, they've been dead for a few seconds. Proof; When Zabuza was resurrected he said that he remember dying or something like that and waking up "here" (Earth). Basically, to them it feels like a few seconds/minutes maybe even days.

While not proof, Nagato said he could resurrect those he had just killed.

And if he could resurrect just about anyone, he'd resurrect Yahiko and later on Jiraiya.
 

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Show me the proof to suggest that the Rinne Tensei can only be used on people who died recently please. Also, technically, they've been dead for a few seconds. Proof; When Zabuza was resurrected he said that he remember dying or something like that and waking up "here" (Earth). Basically, to them it feels like a few seconds/minutes maybe even days.

Maybe i misunderstood, but i thought it was confirmed when J-man wasnt brought back that they have to be dead only rescently.

In any case, Tobi being able to bring back anyone from anytime only reinforces my theory :)
 

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Show me the proof to suggest that the Rinne Tensei can only be used on people who died recently please. Also, technically, they've been dead for a few seconds. Proof; When Zabuza was resurrected he said that he remember dying or something like that and waking up "here" (Earth). Basically, to them it feels like a few seconds/minutes maybe even days.

when nagato used it Jman didnt come back.....idc what they feel likes its been, its been years for some of them and decades for others it hasnt been seconds and idk what your reading to think it does
 

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1)While not proof, Nagato said he could resurrect those he had just killed.

2)And if he could resurrect just about anyone, he'd resurrect Yahiko and later on Jiraiya.

First bold; This could have been due to a lack of Chakra. Think about it. He was fighting Naruto for so long, and he had already so much of his Chakra. Konan even said that he shouldn't push himself so much.

Second bold; Why would he revive them? They have nothing to do with the plot. End of.


when nagato used it Jman didnt come back.....idc what they feel likes its been, its been years for some of them and decades for others it hasnt been seconds and idk what your reading to think it does

Please don't be arrogant. I think Jiraiya was not revived because was so far away from Konoha in the first place. Show me the proof for the bold - I'm not saying you're wrong, I'd just like to see it.
 

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Maybe i misunderstood, but i thought it was confirmed when J-man wasnt brought back that they have to be dead only rescently.

In any case, Tobi being able to bring back anyone from anytime only reinforces my theory :)

J-man was wayy to far under the sea.. He would die instantly again.
 

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Show me the proof to suggest that the Rinne Tensei can only be used on people who died recently please. Also, technically, they've been dead for a few seconds. Proof; When Zabuza was resurrected he said that he remember dying or something like that and waking up "here" (Earth). Basically, to them it feels like a few seconds/minutes maybe even days.

Nagato said himself when he revived all of konoha that certain ppl had been dead for too long to revive. That was the reason he couldn't revive jman. And they said it only felt that short because being revived from death is like when u awake from sleep to u it feels instantaneous but u really have been sleep for hours. Coma victims for example.
 

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Jiraiya had sunk 1000's of feet into the sea.. That is why he cannot be brought back because no one can even retrieve his body.
 

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Show me the proof to suggest that the Rinne Tensei can only be used on people who died recently please. Also, technically, they've been dead for a few seconds. Proof; When Zabuza was resurrected he said that he remember dying or something like that and waking up "here" (Earth). Basically, to them it feels like a few seconds/minutes maybe even days.

You're confusing Rinne Tensei with Edo Tensei.
 

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Tobi does not have more control then Nagato

that said. I believe Madara died rather recently. How else would he know Nagato/ planned to be revived by rinne tensei. He lived up to a few weeks before the invasion of Konoha. in my opinion

He looks too young to have died at that point. And if we think back to Madara's time, Nagato was a kid. I think he died when Nagato was a kid, which is why he called Nagato a brat.
 

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Nagato said himself when he revived all of konoha that certain ppl had been dead for too long to revive. That was the reason he couldn't revive jman. And they said it only felt that short because being revived from death is like when u awake from sleep to u it feels instantaneous but u really have been sleep for hours. Coma victims for example.

The part in bold and in italics is good logic. Not bad. However, the underlined isn't so true. He said they've been dead too long to revive - perhaps he didn't have enough Chakra to "go back in time" and revive them. He didn't actually say "I can't revive them" so we can't be 100% sure. This is what I think. Not sure though.
 

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why does everyone have to have someone come back to life-.-. Also him coming back doesn't mean he will be as powerful. Kabuto chose to let him go as he pleased.IF, he is revived yet again, the user will have to decide how much power he can use.
 

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Everyone is arguing whether or not Pein could have used Rinne Tensei on J-man etc now, and if Pein could or couldn't it doesn't mean that Tobi cant.
 

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You're confusing Rinne Tensei with Edo Tensei.

No I'm not. I know the difference. It's not wise to make assumptions, is it? My point was that there is no solid evidence to suggest that Nagato's or any Rinnegan user's Rinne Tensei is capable of reviving people that have died recently.
 
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Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique

"By channelling his power through the King of Hell, the Rinnegan wielder can re-infuse new life force energy to the dead bodies of those who have died. With their rejuvenated bodies acting as an anchor, the individual souls are then able to leave even the crossroad between life and the afterlife, returning back to their physical vessels. The technique targets all the individuals killed, even those not necessarily killed by Nagato. This technique seemingly requires a massive amount of chakra, as Konan feared the worst for Nagato when he used it after having previously expended so much chakra. Nagato also became severely weakened, his hair became increasingly thinner and greyer as he performed the technique."

 
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