Theory! Madara s connection to nagato

[sindi1997]

Ok I ll try to do my best to explain this. Madara had Ems during the fight with hashirama. Ems has eternal Light that means he can use izanagi or Izanami Without a cost of an eye because his eyes have eternal light and I also don t think that for izanagi and izanami the user must have senju dna because they are uchiha forbidden jutsu also since itachi is able to use them That probably means you don t need senju dna so during the fight with hashirama madara saw in the future with probabily some new jutsu born when you combine Izanami with izanagi as seen with tsukyomi and amaterasu that for susanoo. Izanami and izanagi can form a new jutsu that can see in the future. Madara saw in the future who would be the next rinnegan user and used Izanami to decide his destiny. So that means to revive him at some point of his life thats why he blowed the cofin

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he though he was underground and that s why

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he knew nagato and he said that isn t this technique known as the complete astrocity against the entire flow of life and death in the universe (rinnengan s revive jutsu) what do you guys think ?

 

[Shady Doctor]

This actually makes sense and could be possible..

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[WhistleBlower]

oi hi i just wanted to ask how do u post an question of urself like u just did ???

 

[Typhon Uchiha]

Firstly if u have an EMS it does cost an eye as it is still not the complete vrsion of the uchihas dojutsu, the rinnegan is. That is when they don't cost an eye.

And secondly nice attempt but personally I don't think so.... It seems more likely that nagatos rinnegan is actually madaras rinnegan which was transplanted into nagato.

 

[9Bijuu]

You looked over one huge detail: if he used Izanami / Izanagi to see the future and see Nagato revive him, why didn't Nagato revive him? Nagato has already been sealed so there's no chance of him being revived by Nagato and since he wasn't revived by Nagato at any point in the past this theory can't be possible as much as I'd like it to be.

 

[sindi1997]

Firstly if u have an EMS it does cost an eye as it is still not the complete vrsion of the uchihas dojutsu, the rinnegan is. That is when they don't cost an eye.

And secondly nice attempt but personally I don't think so.... It seems more likely that nagatos rinnegan is actually madaras rinnegan which was transplanted into nagato.

It doesn t the ems has eternal light when the user uses a forbiten jutsu like izanami, izanagi it uses one of the jutsu at the cost of one eye s light remember eye s light. eternal mangekyou sharingan has eternal Light that means it doesn t close it doesn t go blind and the eyes that use izanagi or izanami go blind that s why the close they lose their light

 

[sindi1997]

You looked over one huge detail: if he used Izanami / Izanagi to see the future and see Nagato revive him, why didn't Nagato revive him? Nagato has already been sealed so there's no chance of him being revived by Nagato and since he wasn't revived by Nagato at any point in the past this theory can't be possible as much as I'd like it to be.

two words : destiny changes

 

[sindi1997]

This actually makes sense and could be possible..

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thanks ^_^

 

[Midday]

Madara's time was about 80 years before the start of the series so I'm assuming he lived a while after the big fight where he died Nagato must be around 40 years old so. Madara could have lived 40 years after the fight till Nagato was born and then implanted rinnengan to Nagato. Madara looked around 30 at most so being 70 at that time is very possible. That's just my theory on it.

Didn't Jiriya train Nagato before Minato? Minato should be around 36 now, he had Naruto at 20 and Naruto's 16. That's my logic with a lot of assumtions. We wont know for sure unless we get the truth out of Tobi, who claims to have done what Madara's done so we need to find out who actually did what.

 

[9Bijuu]

two words : destiny changes

If he sees the future he sees what will happen, it shouldn't have changed. I'm sorry I just have trouble with accepting that Madara saw a false future. If it shows the future, it shows the future - not a false future.

 

[Beastbomb]

It doesn t the ems has eternal light when the user uses a forbiten jutsu like izanami, izanagi it uses one of the jutsu at the cost of one eye s light remember eye s light. eternal mangekyou sharingan has eternal Light that means it doesn t close it doesn t go blind and the eyes that use izanagi or izanami go blind that s why the close they lose their light

You seem to not understand what is meant by not loosing its light, let me elaborate a little bit for you EMS does infact have eternal light as you stated. However eternal light refers only to the justu it uses for example in Sasuke's case amaterasu, tsukuyomi and susanoo. Izanagi and izanami are not jutsu's obtained from MS or EMS as proven by Tobi against Konan and also Sasuke vs Danzo both only had a standard 3 tomoe sharingans. The 2 jutsu's in question causes the eye to close so to speak so even if you have EMS you will still go blind in that eye supposedly these 2 jutsu's are incomplete versions of creation of all things which does not render the user to blind.

 

[sindi1997]

You seem to not understand what is meant by not loosing its light, let me elaborate a little bit for you EMS does infact have eternal light as you stated. However eternal light refers only to the justu it uses for example in Sasuke's case amaterasu, tsukuyomi and susanoo. Izanagi and izanami are not jutsu's obtained from MS or EMS as proven by Tobi against Konan and also Sasuke vs Danzo both only had a standard 3 tomoe sharingans. The 2 jutsu's in question causes the eye to close so to speak so even if you have EMS you will still go blind in that eye supposedly these 2 jutsu's are incomplete versions of creation of all things which does not render the user to blind.

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There you go. Skip To 3:07 and See izanagi turning reality in genjutsu without the eye closing and its a Ova (original video animation) real So enough said

 

[MrLukyso]

Nah dude that's nonsense, first thing is first EMS is not completed version of Uchihas dojutsu, the Rinnegan is completed version, and only with it you can use Izanagi without loosing eye sight. Secondly you DO NEED Senju DNA for IZANAGI. It was said not one time, and madara fought hashirama and obtained his powers for Izanagi And about Izanami I don't know, but Nagato had Madaras Rinnegan, it was all part of Moons eye plan, and if your theory is right it means Izanami is fail, because Nagato didn't revived Madara. It doesn't makes any sense in every way you look at it. It was Madara who gave Nagato the Rinnegan, because Uzumaki IS NOT ABLE TO BORN WITH RINNEGAN, you need to progress beyond EMS, and Did nagato do that ? - NO. case closed.

 

[DD93]

EMS or not if you use izanagi you become blind,if not then EMS users would be immortal spamming izanagi and never die.

 

[sindi1997]

EMS or not if you use izanagi you become blind,if not then EMS users would be immortal spamming izanagi and never die.

I m sure there must be some time before you can use izanagi agian Just like shinra tensei who has a 5 sec time before useing again the mangekyou could have the same for izanagi and izanami

 

[Nigete]

I've heard this theory before either from Sawyer7mage or Forneverworld.

 

[MrLukyso]

You go blind after Izanagi, no metter what you have ems, ms, 3 tomoe or other shit, only Rinnegan can hold it perfectly. This theory doesn't make any sense at all, if Madara was the one who gave Nagato the rinnegan, how can this even be true lol ? Just lock this thread..;p

 

[serpiente clan]

Yo went jiraiya. Train nagato he never new about rannegan ability, jiraiya only make nagato use the element nothing more...

The one ho train nagato to learn. The rannegan power was madara and tobi..
So nagato rannegan are not madara rannegan and not tobi rannegan,

 

[Sageofthepath]

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There you go. Skip To 3:07 and See izanagi turning reality in genjutsu without the eye closing and its a Ova (original video animation) real So enough said

Game video aren't valide reference dude.

Plus izanagi and izanami, unless the opposite is proven, doesn't only make you blind it shut your eye close for ever

 

[Sageofthepath]

You go blind after Izanagi, no metter what you have ems, ms, 3 tomoe or other shit, only Rinnegan can hold it perfectly. This theory doesn't make any sense at all, if Madara was the one who gave Nagato the rinnegan, how can this even be true lol ? Just lock this thread..;p

nevr heard of rinnegan being able to use izanagi and izanami....