THEORY : Madara created spiral Zetsu...

[minamoto]

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in this thread i'm gonna prove you that Madara uchiha was teh one who created spiral zetsu...i'm also gonna prove you that Spiral zetsu is indeed Madara's creation and not victim of kaguyas Mugen tsukoyomi....

-in end of this thread of mine u will deduce that spiral zetsu not being Madara's creation is a giant plothole and incosistency in Manga...



-all remember when Black Zetsu told us truth of White Zetsus Origines being victims of kaguyas Infinit Tsukoyomi :

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My theory is that black zetsu was right exept for spiral zetsu who wasn't really black zetsus or kaguya's creation...


- i do believe that Madara managed, at least, to creat one of white zetsus using hagoromo's inyoton thechnique called "SOZO BANBUTSU"....ITS SPIRAL ZETSU !!!


-Madara created the shape of spiral zetsu from hashirama's cells...then with his imagination he used Banbutsu SOZO to creat the spiral zetsus' goofy personality...the spiral zetsu is also different shaped from the other zetsu...becuz he was designed to be a vessel for some1 else....

-Madara designed it so that he uses spiral zetsu as a vessel..but when madara found obito he changed his plan...he made obito his weaker vessel instead of spiral zetsu (tobidara)..

now read well what Madara is telling one of the white zetsus :

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this could 93% mean The Spiral zetsu was the only Madara succeeded experiment...while the other white zetsus were rejects of it..


-let me sum it up for you :


-teh one eye design of spiral zetsus face is Made for someone who lost his right eye (Obito)....


-spiral zetsu vessel was also used to wrap someone who has a weak crushed Body(Obito)...


this can't be random coincidence happening since kaguya era..so it dont make sence that spiral zetsu was result of kaguya's mugen tsukoyomi...

and if spiral zertsu is victim of kaguya's Mugen tsukoyomi then its a big inconsitency and plothole in Manga..

Madara is true Genius

 

[Mori Jin]

Hmmmmmmm

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

It should't be surprising to be honest :

We are talking about man who is the strongest member of Uchiha clan confirmed directly by Kishimoto in latest databook.

We are talking about man so strong that even his creator doesn't know proper way how to kill him.

We are talking about man who doesn't have any weakness .

We are talking about man who is the biggest mastermind of this manga.

We are talking about invincible immortal .

We are talking about man who defeated 2 main characters effortlessly.

We are talking about Uchiha Madara.

Great thread 10 / 10.

Ty and Maddy rules .

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[lImmortal Regis]

I dont even have to read to give you my like !!!!!!! you have my respect!!!!!you always had!!!!

bada$$thread like always!!!!

kestion for you! We know Obito used spiral zetsu to help him with his injured body, but what happened with zetsu after?When Madara created half obito body made of senju DNA he alrdy hid himself inside of his body right? Spiral Zetsu was just a vessel for Tobidara,it is why Obito was using spiral zetsu and controlling him, but in the wararc Spiral zetsu was separated from Obito????

 

[SenseiSama]

It's not a theory it's a fact, he knew everything there is to know about Six Path jutsu including COAT, this was made clear when he said he would teach Obito about Yin-Yang jutsu.


I'm going as far as to say he actually did create his own BZ but it was possessed by Kaguya's hence why he was not aware of the planned betrayal that pissed every Madara fan.

 

[lImmortal Regis]

It's not a theory it's a fact, he knew everything there is to know about Six Path jutsu including COAT, this was made clear when he said he would teach Obito about Yin-Yang jutsu.


I'm going as far as to say he actually did create his own BZ but it was possessed by Kaguya's hence why he was not aware of the planned betrayal that pissed every Madara fan.

Madara lived over 100+ years he knew everything there is to know. Madara did created BZ but he was attached to GedoMazo while doing that. Also, if BZ was wandering around... how come he was able to hide him self in gedo mazo or even be created by Madara when he was born after Kaguya's sealing?

 

[minamoto]

It should't be surprising to be honest :

We are talking about man who is the strongest member of Uchiha clan confirmed directly by Kishimoto in latest databook.

We are talking about man so strong that even his creator doesn't know proper way how to kill him.

We are talking about man who doesn't have any weakness .

We are talking about man who is the biggest mastermind of this manga.

We are talking about invincible immortal .

We are talking about man who defeated 2 main characters effortlessly.

We are talking about Uchiha Madara.

Great thread 10 / 10.

Ty and Maddy rules .

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I dont even have to read to give you my like !!!!!!! you have my respect!!!!!you always had!!!!

bada$$thread like always!!!!

kestion for you! We know Obito used spiral zetsu to help him with his injured body, but what happened with zetsu after?When Madara created half obito body made of senju DNA he alrdy hid himself inside of his body right? Spiral Zetsu was just a vessel for Tobidara,it is why Obito was using spiral zetsu and controlling him, but in the wararc Spiral zetsu was separated from Obito????

Madara h8erz will soon cry

Death dies but Tobidara don't die !!!

It's not a theory it's a fact, he knew everything there is to know about Six Path jutsu including COAT, this was made clear when he said he would teach Obito about Yin-Yang jutsu.


I'm going as far as to say he actually did create his own BZ but it was possessed by Kaguya's hence why he was not aware of the planned betrayal that pissed every Madara fan.

nice theory!!..i also made similar theory befor saying there was another black zetsu created by madara...it was inside obito...(but not teh 1 who is son of kaguya)

 

[SenseiSama]

Madara lived over 100+ years he knew everything there is to know. Madara did created BZ but he was attached to GedoMazo while doing that. Also, if BZ was wandering around... how come he was able to hide him self in gedo mazo or even be created by Madara when he was born after Kaguya's sealing?

BZ is a portion of Kaguya's power, the ability to hide himself from Madara should be pretty basic to him when we consider the fact Hagoromo and Indra were never able to detect his presence.


And as I said before, Madara is too smart to not have noticed, the only way BZ could have gotten away with it is if Madara did actually create his own and believed that Kaguya's BZ was the one he created.

Madara is not the kind to say he knows jutsu unless he's actually performed them or knows he can perform them. When he says he knows how to use Yin-Yang it means he can use it, plans on using it and has used it.

 

[lImmortal Regis]

BZ is a portion of Kaguya's power, the ability to hide himself from Madara should be pretty basic to him when we consider the fact Hagoromo and Indra were never able to detect his presence.


And as I said before, Madara is too smart to not have noticed, the only way BZ could have gotten away with it is if Madara did actually create his own and believed that Kaguya's BZ was the one he created.

Madara is not the kind to say he knows jutsu unless he's actually performed them or knows he can perform them. When he says he knows how to use Yin-Yang it means he can use it, plans on using it and has used it.

Im confused by reading this...?

If Madara did created his own BZ which he did, why would he betray Madara????

btw, BZ did told Madara about Hashirama cells, and how to awaken Rinnegan , so how come Madara did created BZ when BZ was alrdy there and told Madara what to do?

 

[Scryed]

Madara was fooled into believing he created BZ and the rest of the Zetsu. BZ had been around long before Madara was born. The other Zetsu had as well but were pulled out of the Gedo by BZ as was stated. Madara believed it was his doing and thought he was pulling the strings. He's intelligent but not "immune" to being fooled. Spiral Zetsu wouldn't have died the moment Kaguya (Gedo Mazo) was resealed if he were a mere creation. He had some connection to Kaguya.

 

[lImmortal Regis]

Madara was fooled into believing he created BZ and the rest of the Zetsu. BZ had been around long before Madara was born. The other Zetsu had as well but were pulled out of the Gedo by BZ as was stated. Madara believed it was his doing and thought he was pulling the strings. He's intelligent but not "immune" to being fooled. Spiral Zetsu wouldn't have died the moment Kaguya (Gedo Mazo) was resealed if he were a mere creation. He had some connection to Kaguya.

BZ told Madara how to get Rinnegan, but later he created BZ... another plot hole in the manga....

 

[salamander uchiha]

BZ told Madara how to get Rinnegan, but later he created BZ... another plot hole in the manga....

Black Zetsu don't tell Madara how to get the rinnegan it was the Uchiha tablet. BZ altered the Uchiha tablet so the Uchiha would cast Infinite Tsuki.

 

[Scryed]

BZ told Madara how to get Rinnegan, but later he created BZ... another plot hole in the manga....

BZ was already around during Madara and Hashirama's fight. It's no plot hole. Madara never created BZ. BZ made it look that way. He didn't tell Madara how to awaken the Rinnegan. He altered the stone tablet with the instructions to make sure Madara would follow his plans unknowingly.

 

[lImmortal Regis]

Black Zetsu don't tell Madara how to get the rinnegan it was the Uchiha tablet. BZ altered the Uchiha tablet so the Uchiha would cast Infinite Tsuki.

BZ was already around during Madara and Hashirama's fight. It's no plot hole. Madara never created BZ. BZ made it look that way. He didn't tell Madara how to awaken the Rinnegan. He altered the stone tablet with the instructions to make sure Madara would follow his plans unknowingly.

I know BZ was running around around during that time , not saying its a plot hole , its just i thought i saw somewhere, that BZ actually told Madara what to do... and i cant seem to find the chapter when Madara use Izanagi and replace his body with bunshin

 

[salamander uchiha]

I know BZ was running around around during that time , not saying its a plot hole , its just i thought i saw somewhere, that BZ actually told Madara what to do... and i cant seem to find the chapter when Madara use Izanagi and replace his body with bunshin

Chapter 677 BZ says this.

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He's referring to how he changed the tablet.

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Click on the blue writing Black Zetsu explains it all.

 

[1000 Chirping Birds]

This theory is like Kishimoto revealing that Itachi was a good guy all along, and then 2 arcs later deciding he's a villain again. Theories have to add to the story, this confuses it needlessly.

 

[lImmortal Regis]

Chapter 677 BZ says this.

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[salamander uchiha]

YOU THINK MADARA IS STUPID!?!?!?!??!?!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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What are you talking about Bro Madara is my fav.

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[lImmortal Regis]

What are you talking about Bro Madara is my fav.

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TO actually think that BZ tricked Madara by showing Kabuto his body when Tobi iz alrdy Madara!!!! hahhahaahahha
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