Theory: Kishimoto foreshadowing Sakura development via Hashirama Senju.

[Melanee]

Chatte, I see you noticed the scene like in my thread about the comparison between Sakura and Ino and Hashirama and Madara! This last chapter even further covered it when they struck each other simultaneously like they did at the exams!

 

[MrDuck]

I haven't read all the posts above, I hope some stupid haters aren't here . Seriously I don't like haters. It's a manga, I find it a bit weird to hate a character of who you don't know how it will end up.

That being said, let's hope you're right and she does get some development. She's one of team 7 after all. It's just that I don't know if there's much time left for her to develop, but I also think it should happen though. Ofcourse not all characters can develop to become very strong shinobi. But she's one of team 7 so yeah...

As a side note, I still hope she'll end up with Sasuke, it was her childhood crush after all and as all people know: girls are more serious about their crushes than say Naruto who should be over his childhood crush that is Sakura and now loves Hinata. That would be very realistic in my opinion.

 

[IsasukeI]

That's very interesting theory ..

 

[Chatte]

Well you look faaar too much into it, for example pairing Yamato with Sakura while Sai with Naruto. Yamato couldnt allow the only medic ninja to die...

I could eventually agree that Sakura is a candidate for learning this third Sage Mode but unfortunately there is no more time for training since the final battle is ongoing right now, so Soorry dude...

Well, we shall see in the end if I look too far or not.
In the end, remember the rule no. 3? A ninja must see underneath the underneath

Even if I wanted to troll it would be nearly impossible seeing as how you're a MOD and all, LOL!
OT: I agree that the similarities and foreshadowing is there. I think that symbol (if memory serves me right) is a symbol of healing powers. She may have a healing tech or regenration tech that rivals or even surpasses Tsunade's. But more than likely she'll probably inherit Tsunade's rgeneration tech. + Rep

No trolling, no trolling! :nuts:
Well, in the end, that's what I suppose the most, that this foreshadowing will have to do with the healing powers in the end. ^_^

I feel the same........ but as is the mechinations of life and time..
In response to this whole thread..... I am indifferent to Sakura as she is not a main character/protagonist.
literary disection of story development dictates that u have one hero/ one villain (antagonist) everyone/thing else then becomes supporting cast. In some exceptions there has been a character of bias used to propel the rivalry of the hero/villain. At best that spot is where Sakura falls. Again it not against her as a character as much as it is a literary critique. I have a responding question for you the op: Chatte re: your detective skills. When you notice a pattern of logic regarding the growth of your friends (their developement in life), do you make predictions in your head (or out loud to them) about their life (if you do has this always worked out for you as their friend or as a person in general).
While patterns do offer a certain amount of predictability. Nothing in this or any other known universe is absolute perfection, so a piece of petic advice for you: refrain from allowing observations to be the ever vigil guide in life otherwise you'll spend all your time reading books and life will pas syou by.
Never the less I appreciate your attention to detail.

There's always the female interest. Which is Sakura.
Now, I don't think she fell, sure, many people think so, I have my own reasons to believe she didn't given the type of character Kishi made her to be but that's another thing, I guess.
As for your question, don't know what to say, exactly. Not about their lives however, about certain situations, if I am asked to, sometimes I do. And usually, not to brag about myself, 90% of the cases I was right.
Of course, I was also wrong in 10% of the cases. Similar to how you said that indeed, patterns offer a certain amount of predictability.
As I said at the very beginning of the thread, I might be right, I might be wrong. That, to answer your reply about absolute perfection. Indeed, everything in this life is relative. Einstein, anyone?
As for the other part, that's just me. Call it excessively aware of my surroundings, lol - to make a little parallel with Madara here.
But don't worry, my life is not passing by. I have lived enough things and I plan to keep on going.
Nevertheless, thanks for your appreciation! ^_^

In response to the foreshadowing and kishi's intellectual prowess. I find it has been lagging for a couple of years now as he is no longer expanding his story as much as he is "detailing" it (not all of the subtle images in kishi's work are foreshadowing although i myself have often hoped as you seem to d o that this would not be the case (most recently for me was the use of anko and the crow in the kabuto story although it did end up bringing back orchi and deffinatively ending itachi's part in this story, my counter point would be the kakashi rampage, if the second kage sent a clone out before the first stopped him in order to explain their story to Sasuke and the info spoiler given by kirin almost two years ago that leaked kishi's plan for writting a kage story that has now become a flashback in a sidestory of a story, not the most subtle way to expand a universe)). That has been proven with 100,000's of other writers to be a quick way to kill of your audience. Respect your fans as they are the ones who make you notable in the world's eyes. As an artist themselves: Be humble enough to know when your time in the sun is over and bow out gracefully.
Thanks for those who are patient enough to read my response. and a sincere thanks to Chatte for the desire to use observation and one's own cognative abilities

Actually, I'd blame that on the editors he kept on changing. Many have changed quite a lot things in his story and he is one of those who want to stick by his own beliefs so this might be one of the reasons. From my sources, he even brought a new editor this year.
As for that other part, well...he indeed has the tendency to go quite a lot into details so he has expanded his universe so much and this has costed him his main cast. And the thing is, that now, he has to end all those ends, therefore all these flashbacks.
Also, he has to please fans in a way or another, once again, these flashbacks. Everyone was screaming Madara vs Hashirama for a long time ago and when you're under pressure, sometimes, it doesn't end good. I know he has done some bad things with his story telling, I do, however, I still respect him as a writer and his brilliance. Not his brilliance when it comes to things that are bluntly obvious, but the way he does it, the way he twists the story and makes everyone go nuts, lol, that is a part I, particularly, enjoy a lot.
But I guess people have different tastes.
Anyway, thanks for contributing to the thread, highly appreciated! ^^

In the end Sakura is irrelevant to the story,The Power and Believes of Sasuke Uchiha Vs The Powers and Believes of Naruto Uzumaki are all that matters.

Keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you happy and helps you sleep at night.

Sakura will not get a sage mode.
one, she doesn't have the chakra or body for it.
two, there is no sage mode she could get.
three, sasuke didn't get it and it was only Naruto, so I don't see it happening.
but of course, that's just me

I say chances are 50/50.
Matter already discussed.
Nothing sure.
The story is not over yet.
But, of course, that's just me.

Sakura and Sai are glaringly missing in the battlefield, I suspect they went to the Hokages

Exactly. Also, she was the only one who didn't get a Kyuubi chakra cloak. Why?
Well maybe because Kishi will showcase her own abilities?

I don't really think Sakura is going to get much. It is highly unlikely that she is going to get a powerup to put her in the league of Naruto and Sasuke. Sakura has a more supplementary role. People forget that. She is one of the best medical ninja in existence, super strong, and can avoid attacks with the best of them. Remember that she created an antidote from the poison of Sasori, while saving the life of Kankuro; something that was thought to be impossible. She also was able to unlock the secrets about Zetsu. She is a medic through and through and people shouldn't be upset at her power level.

Now that I got that out of the way, I do find it interesting that Hashi gets a mark on his forehead in SM. This hasn't been seen anywhere else and the only thing that is similar to it, as you said, Tsunade's marking for her healing jutsu. I think that Hashi is not able to spontaneously heal no matter what. That is pretty ridiculous. Maybe the reason he gets the forehead marking is because he lets some the massive of amount of natural energy that enters his body for SM into the mark for a healing jutsu like Tsunade's.

As I said, my best guess for it is that from all this, she'll get the medical skills. Her role is a support one so the medical skills being already support, this is where it will all wrap up.
I remember all of her skills, however, she needs more development in this area, besides the normal healing, given she is said to be a second Tsunade.
I am ok with her power-level as I don't like her for the powers, I like her for the character, but I do believe that Kishi will develop her in this area as well.
As for Hashi's spontaneously healing, well, in the latest chapters we've seen that he heals when he enters Sage Mode. Remember Madara said that Tsunade has the same ability he had. Well, that was the ability that he was talking about.
Interesting view on the forehead marks and chakra channeling, nevertheless.

agreed only with the senpou mark related to haruno clan symbol. everything else is circumstantial. she know a lot about shodai because she reads a lot... anyway, maybe she was adopted by the people shown as her parents in the movie but she is actually senju?

I know it's circumstantial, that's why I said she's associated. And while circumstantial, why her? It could've been anyone else, yet, she's always there one way or another.
I do think however that she is just a normal girl that will attain those medical skills despite not being a Senju.
Those are her real parents, as Kishi already said.

I think it's possible. I saw this on tumblr so ya nice thread Chatte. Anyway if you think of it Hashi and Sakura both have strong chakra control. I know this is weird to say that this flashback thing is also a little bit how Ino and Sakura met, but if the two met in a place where only they were there, then on the next day they see each other, just like Madara and Hashi or in this case a few days later. Now since this is supposed to be like the Naruto and Sasuke friend thing, I think this has more similarities to Ino and Sakura's friendship. Cause first they meet and they see each other again. The Naruto and Sasuke thing didn't have the two boys hanging out together. So maybe this whole story is foreshadowing what happened like with the girls and not the boys.
Btw not to mention it's almost Sakura's birthday so we could get another foreshadowing of this.
1. The boys really didn't hang out. The only thing they had in their childhood was a bond.
2. The girls did hang out. In their's they had actually socialize and stuff.
So #2 is more exactly like this flashback. It's just the mix of 1 and 2. But yeah.
And I just wanna say if Sakura ends up as a Senju, IMAGINE ALL THE FRICKEN RINNEGAN BABIES SHE'LL HAVE WITH SASUKE!! xD

Lol, I saw my theory on Tumblr as well. It's nice to see people are interested in it. ^_^
Thanks, anyway.
Exactly my point. As I was already discussing with Melanee, I have seen more similarities in their friendship with Ino and Sakura rather than with Naruto and Sasuke.
I plan on updating the thread after I'll finish responding everyone, so that people will see from where I'm coming.
I know her birthday is coming...but dunno if we'll see something. Meh, who knows?
We shall wait and see.
As for the pairing stuff, I'd rather not go there.
I want to keep it clean of those things. ^^'

Wow Chatte, I usually hate theories, the only exception I've ever had was Dr.Proof's threads but this was down right awesome, I used to hate the living shit out of Sakura but now,( I still don't liker her for all that shit she used to make Naruto put up with but I dislike her alot less now)

Oh, dear! Well, these are the people that I like, the people that even though they dislike her, are still open to discussions. ^_^
Thanks a lot and glad you enjoyed the thread! :hug:

I've heard rumors that Tsunade could possibly die after healing the other Kages, Sakura will arrive before she dies and Tsunade will transfer her powers to her.

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Well, that would indeed open a door to her development.
It's 50/50 chances.
And it wouldn't be weird given we had Itach before transferring his powers to Sasuke.
So nothing out of the ordinary.

Breast implants?

Keep it on topic or else you're out of the thread.

I stop reading after this.When you start your theory off with opne big falsehood, it can only go down hill from there.Naruto is an Uzumaki.His clan was nearly whiped out and the survivors were shattered throughout the shinobi world.So it's obvious they weren't that powerful or feared.Now I know what the op is getting trying to say, but it's simple a wrong.Naruto is not a Senju.Being from a cousin clans doesn't make you a part of the Senju Clan.The Uchihas and The Senjus are brother clans, both descending from the Sage of the Six paths sons, but the Uchihas aren't Senjus and vice versa.

So if you stopped reading why are you replying before reading everything and have the full information?
What has to do what I said, with what you said?
See? You didn't even properly read everything, yet you felt the necessity to posts so you just make yourself heard...

I gotta admit your on point with this, it most likely is true.

Well, we will see if it will be or not. Until then, it's just a theory.

I don't see Tsunade transferring the seal to Sakura as her surpassing Tsunade but it is still a power up so i guess it wouldnt be all bad i mean it could lead to her having more chakara

Well, we already had power-transfer instances so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary.
And I actually do see Tsunade doing that, to be honest.

 

[Hikari Uchiha Senju]

I admit I hate Sakura, but the exact same things have been going trough my head! This just might be true!

 

[Cascade]

i really enjoyed this theory, a nice read, thanks Chatte, also gz on mod!

 

[the last shinobi]

Not a fan of Sakura at all i believe she's a waste of ink but you do make a compelling argument

 

[Naruto 2nd SO6paths]

wait r u comparing hashirama and sakura

 

[beast7960]

Maybe sakura didn't get a cloak because she's a mere medic? What's she going to do, heal the enemy to death. You're trying to connect dots that aren't even there. Unfathomable how someone can think that sakura and hashi are alike.

 

[SAmIDeXtEr]

WOAH, i had a feeling it was you chatte xd lol...
but i will read and analyze ya thread ,However...You are easy to read, Chatte

 

[Chatte]

Oh, God, I still haven't caught-up with all the replies... :|
I have 2 more pages to go. :T_T::NO:

Anyway, I will stop for a bit as I need to leave for the moment but when I get back I do plan on bringing new evidence for the Sakura/Hashirama similarity I am talking about.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Oh, god, the replies I have to answer to....:NO:




























Once again, in that part I was referring more at the medical skills because I am sure that Wood style is tooooooooooooooo far-fetched! I have no basis for that whatsoever and that, even to me, would look as a major ass-pull, excuse my language.
As for the other things, you do know I like her not because of her powers as we've discussed about it multiple times before.
I think she'll get those medical skills and be, just like you said, in the league of those like Minato, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, etc.
No special lineage, yet, strong enough.
Also, give me some time, but I will check it and tell you my opinion!

Why does a medical ninja need to be strong? Her medical skills are already top tier as she was able to develop an antidote to sasori's poison. I don't see how much further she could go with regards to that. I initially thought that perhaps you mean to say that her combat skills will be improved. Are you implying something along the lines of Tsunade's byakugou for sakura? I could see that happening, and just getting a slug summoning with .....idk maybe venom poison release and i think you'd get what you want. Not too sure who she'd use it against this late in the manga though, maybe orochimaru? meh...

I think i should also reveal my honest opinion here. For a theory type prediction thread to be solid imo you need to create a realistic scenario where you show how what you're saying could possibly play out in the future chapters of the manga. Like, if the subject is Sakura, sure we discuss the background and if you have to the symbolisms, but also state why you feel that what you propose may happen, e.g it would logically tie in with the plot, or it would help to alleviate a certain situation, etc. Right now Sakura is with the joint shinobi force fighting edo madara, obito and the juubi. Is there any scenario in which her power up may be shown with this backdrop? Perhaps she develops a variant of the healing tech with the ability to heal multiple wounded at the same time? Or a chakra shield that helps to block attacks? Anyhting that has a fair to remote chance of actually happening in the manga.

That said, there was a lot of effort put into this thread so plus reps and i appreciate that you take the time to respond to all the replies here.

 

[Aze]

@ Chateeeeeeeeee!!!


A Thread Nicely Done.

I get the foreshadowing progress.


But with the recent chapters.

Hashirama seems to be more like Naruto.

I think , that Hashirama might foreshadow a bit Naruto and Sakura @ the same time.


But the recent chapter seems to be like a paralell for Naruto + Sasuke.


Young Hashirama + Young Madara - almost the same as Sasuke + Naruto.


But I think , that Hasirama = Tsunade = Sakura.

I think , that Tsunade is the medium between the Hashirama foreshadowing Sakura.


Also Hashirama is Tsunades grandfather.


And Tsunade was a Hokage.


As a Hokage Tsunade had acess to alot of Jutsu and knowledge.

She might have passed some of that knowledge to Sakura , since Sakura was shes diciple.



Opinions?

 

[fayeon]

@ Chateeeeeeeeee!!!


A Thread Nicely Done.

I get the foreshadowing progress.


But with the recent chapters.

Hashirama seems to be more like Naruto.

I think , that Hashirama might foreshadow a bit Naruto and Sakura @ the same time.


But the recent chapter seems to be like a paralell for Naruto + Sasuke.


Young Hashirama + Young Madara - almost the same as Sasuke + Naruto.


But I think , that Hasirama = Tsunade = Sakura.

I think , that Tsunade is the medium between the Hashirama foreshadowing Sakura.


Also Hashirama is Tsunades grandfather.


And Tsunade was a Hokage.


As a Hokage Tsunade had acess to alot of Jutsu and knowledge.

She might have passed some of that knowledge to Sakura , since Sakura was shes diciple.



Opinions?

I agree with This

 

[beast7960]

@ Chateeeeeeeeee!!!


A Thread Nicely Done.

I get the foreshadowing progress.


But with the recent chapters.

Hashirama seems to be more like Naruto.

I think , that Hashirama might foreshadow a bit Naruto and Sakura @ the same time.


But the recent chapter seems to be like a paralell for Naruto + Sasuke.


Young Hashirama + Young Madara - almost the same as Sasuke + Naruto.


But I think , that Hasirama = Tsunade = Sakura.

I think , that Tsunade is the medium between the Hashirama foreshadowing Sakura.


Also Hashirama is Tsunades grandfather.


And Tsunade was a Hokage.


As a Hokage Tsunade had acess to alot of Jutsu and knowledge.

She might have passed some of that knowledge to Sakura , since Sakura was shes diciple.



Opinions?

Don't think so. Hashi > Hiruzen > Tsunade Jiraiya Orochimaru > Naruto Sakura Sasuke. I don't think Hashi taught tsunade any ninjutsu, remember he died while she was still a child.

You can say the powers up between the 3 should be even, although sasuke was ahead in terms of skill and power post-timeskip.

Sasuke - Basic - MS - EMS
Naruto - Basic - SM - Kyuubi Cloak - BM
Sakura - Basic - ??? - ???

 

[Aze]

Don't think so. Hashi > Hiruzen > Tsunade Jiraiya Orochimaru > Naruto Sakura Sasuke. I don't think Hashi taught tsunade any ninjutsu, remember he died while she was still a child.

Hashirama left alot of Jutsu behind.

Via Scrolls.

 

[RockLee X Zabuza]

freaking awsome I hope she turns out to be the best she can be

 

[Steaktacular]

I´m hoping for further development of the character, despite the current situation not being the most favorable.

Also, great thread, things do connect. Kudos to you

 

[mikeeozua]

Sorry it's a good thread and all but Hashirama and Madara compare to naruto and sasuke more than Sakura and ino

 

[joshu34]

Oh, god, the replies I have to answer to....:NO:



First of all, I would like to thank you for your words!
Second of all, if that's your opinion, I respect it. I mean, we're all individuals who have their own mind-set. However, I believe that in both of them, I came with pretty much substantial evidence to back it up, not just I say this because it's similar. No. I say this because besides the fact that it's similar, this, that and the other one support my theory.
That is the premise, at least. Now it's up to you to either believe and be open to it, or not, of course.



I think I pretty much added enough substantial evidence. As I said, Kishi follows a pattern when he draws things, therefore, from there, this conclusion came up. That's why I gave that example with the smiles. Examples like those and others are a lot, however, you don't expect me to put as example a whole manga, right? I will bring forward some examples when I'll finish to answer everyone, to show that indeed, there's a substantial connection and basis for my theory.
You say just because she was a student of Tsunade. Well, think about it? Why make her a student of Tsunade in the first place? Don't you think that Kishi knows what he's doing? If there wouldn't have been nothing, why all those associations?
As well, you say just because of staying under that symbol. Well, how comes that for Sasuke and Naruto, the fact that they were under that symbol became a relevant thing and for Sakura is supposed to not be? Just because she's Sakura?
Also, if you would've observed Kishi, he has the tendency to come full circle with part 1, that's why this happens 600+ chapters after. Look at Neji's death. Full circle with his character from Part 1.
Why should Sakura be excluded?



I think you didn't get properly what I said. I said that when Kishi wants to put an emphasis, wants to foreshadow something, wants to link something, you name it, he puts similar traits in the character he wants to make a parallel to. Same here. Not only that position in which they're staying, but also, look at the latest chapters and you'll see. He is told by Madara about how he has no 'fashion taste' if you want to say it like this, just as Ino told Sakura when it came to her forehead. As well, the way they both punch each other, just as Ino and Sakura's battle. Also, the way he climbed that hill, same as Sakura.
Now if you want to call that stupid, go ahead if it makes you feel better, but the things are bluntly obvious, no offense.



Yes, most people did. But see, once again, I get back the the previous idea. The similar drawing style is what puts those two in the same box. That's what makes Sakura/Hashirama parallelism possible. The context [meeting in their established place just like Ino and Sakura], the drawing style [both staying in that position], the emotional state [both crying over something they're suffering].
You could say that the latter is applicable to almost everyone and I wouldn't contradict you, however, that's where the context comes into play that makes, as I said, this Sakura/Hashirama parallel possible.
Now, if you believe it or not, it's up to you. No one is pushing you to do that, however, as I said already, the basis is there.



Maybe, maybe not. It seems you missed that part where I said things might turn true, might not. That's why it's a theory and it's nothing certain, right?
Now, you answer me this: out of all drawings he could pick, why the Haruno symbol? Out of all the places he could pick, why the forehead which is a big part of Sakura's character? He could've picked any other drawing and any other place of the body, yet, it's the forehead and not only that, but with the Haruno symbol.
You could've said I am clutching at straws in Tsunade's case since her symbol is a diamond shape one, yet Hashirama's exactly the Haruno one. Why, those two important aspects on Sakura's character, once again?
Also, the Senju-like powers, I was pretty much referring at the medical part as this is the most normal one.
But that doesn't mean I am right neither wrong. The difference is, as I said, I have a basis for that.




Well, that's your opinion, of course, and I respect it. However, the way you are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine as well.
So we'll have to agree to disagree, more or less, since we do have a common point, however, it's different.



Once again, her chakra reserves are normal! Now, if she gets a storage thing, who says that she cannot store a lot of chakra better and faster than Tsunade? All these things are details that can simply be explained. If I, a simple fan, can find a simple solution, imagine the creator of it.
And, as well, once again, remember the differences between the Snakes, Toads and Slugs requirements. She might not even need huge chakra reserves. Both Gamabunta and Manda asked for sacrifices, in a way or another. Not Katsuyu's case.
Tsunade was chakra depleted when she summoned her in the Sannin Showdown.
But I guess no one took the time to notice these differences, right?




And I am going to say what makes you certain that she won't? Just because you think so, doesn't mean it won't be happening.


As I said it multiple times before, in the end, we will see what turn the story takes in her regards.
We just have to wait and see.
However, don't you think a discussion isn't doing bad till then?



That's your truth. What I can say, it ain't over until the fat lady sings!



Might show me where it was stated that requires lots of chakra? As far as I know, it's a high-level, indeed, genjutsu. But that's it.
No other specifications were mentioned. So, until then, it might be/it might not be possible.



I know about Mokuton, don't worry, I know generally about other Senju-like jutsus. And I mentioned countless times this thing. And I also mentioned that this is the gap Kishi'll have to fill. I can't know everything, can I.
As well, for that comparisons, once again, I previously explained you what about the comparison terms.
I hate to repeat myself countless times so hope you got the idea.



It doesn't offend me in any way as I know who Hashirama is and who Sakura is, it's just that you quite didn't get what I was trying to say here. And it seems that people took it so offended that I dared to say that this is foreshadowing via Hashirama Senju. Well, what's wrong with that? I mean, I am not the one who drew things like that that match different patterns. Kishi did.
What will people do if this comes true? Hate Kishi because of it? Probably, quite possible.
All, just because we're talking Sakura and there's this mind-set regarding her.
But meh, I digress...



Well, you seem to forget that, after Shikamaru, she's the second most intelligent character when it comes to the newer generation. She is that type that could learn something like that.
Tsunade invented a whole medical system by herself. No one was there to teach her. Yet she did it. What makes you think that Sakura cannot attain something that's already on the seals, you just have to practice? You forget she was/is a quick learner, that's her advantage. And not just that, but the execution of that is flawless.



Well, that's you opinion and you're entitled to it, of course! I brought enough substantial evidence besides the symbols and if you woul've read the manga like 5 times, all over, in 2 months, maybe you'd see the dots there. But, I digress, once again.
To each his own!
Nevertheless, thanks for taking your time to respond to the thread.



As I said muuultiple times before and at the end of the thread, related as in associated, not related by blood or descendants.
As well, check the other answers regarding the chakra reserves. What has power to do with personality, in the end? You clearly didn't get the hold of it.
Special talent. Well, show me other besides Tsunade that has the same chakra control that she has. Show me other besides Tsunade and of course Hashi, that can enhance their strength like she does. If that wouldn't require a special talent, Shizune might've as well had this power-enhanced strength, or any other medical ninja, yet she doesn't.
There are things that match, like the forehead thing.
Anyway, thanks for collaborating.


I dare to call you a bad informer. No need to excuse yourself for being a liar.
In the end, you know as they say, who's excused is accused.



Aah, t hat interview that miraculously can be found only there, no other official link, that suprisingly enough, or not, it's from 2012 and, yet, those questions are from the Jump Festa 2009 and only where Sakura is mentioned, the answers are modified. How... 'true'!



What has normal parents and normal girl has to do with the fact that she can get power-ups? If she's normal, it doesn't mean that she cannot get power-ups. Yet, again, twisting my words in order to play good for your cause. How "unexpected".



Well, enlighten me... In order to get power-ups, you need to have a dark past? Geez, what logic is that?
Also, seems that comprehensive skills is hard on this one. I said you misinformed people regarding her status as a heroine, yet, because it was proven wrong to you, you change your arguments.
Once again, how unexpected....
And I didn't call myself a mod, what does that have to do anyway? Really now, why the need to bring this up? It has nothing to do with the discussion, keep it on topic.



Yes, tell me something new, dear. I already new that and I already cleared that up.
Do a research before coming with this answer as it's not helping your cause, either way.
Matter already answered.



Yeah, I know, it's the interview that's actually on the release of the Road to Ninja DVD cause this eyar on Shonen Jump he had no interviews. And yes, I know about the God's Seat thing.
Funny how that's a big tree and it's related to Sakura and Hashirama's Wood release consists pretty much on trees. Is that another link, maybe? Who knows...
Thanks a lot, dear!



Exactly, also this.
I am planning to add some things to the thread once I finish with everything, to show once again, how traits of Hashirama's character can be found on Sakura and why this association is made more and more bluntly obvious.



I don't think she'll get wood style. That was unique to him. I mean, if Tsunade didn't get it and she's a direct relative, for Sakura to get it, that would be weird.
That's why I am inclined to think more about the medical area rather than Mokuton.
Though it is something there since she asked Yamato to teach her that binding technique and we get the idea they got quite close since she is reading reports from him, etc.
And yes, given her genjutsu type, her chakra control is excellent.
That's why she could become a medic.



Well, I didn't say Sakura is Senju, just that she is associated, one way or another with Hashi.
Also, I agree, that's where I think it will get to. Medical skills enhanced and genjutsu.
But we shall wait and see. ^_^



Very much open and post already answered to.



Once again, linked as in associated.
True on the last part, we'll wait and see ^_^



Uhm, I pretty much doubt that. She would've had to be Shizune's age if that were true. ^^



Well, we will see in the end if I looked too much into it or not.
Now, interesting stuff about Nohara and Haruno.
The thing is that Nohara = Field, Haruno Sakura = cherry blossom fields, so there's definitely a connection there as well. ^_^



God, then if you hate it, what are you doing on this thread, once again, remind me, please?
Slug Sage is a possibility until proven otherwise, based on the patterns.
Deal with it.



Point already discussed before, you don't need to repeat yourself countless times.



Oh, my, thank you, dear! ^_^
Exactly my point! Everything he has drawn similar, at a point in the manga had a corellation, a follow up, you name it. He has patterns he follows. Really, I am amazed people don't see this by now.
There are people reading the manga way before I started to [I started with the anime] and they should've noticed this by now, but meh...
And true, this might be about it in the next arc... Kishi can drag things as long as he wants.
Anyway, however, I'd kindly ask you to keep it nice and polite and don't use inappropriate language.
Thanks! ^_^



If you properly look, Hashirama was in the process of healing after that. There weren't as much scratches as the beginning.
As well, Madara's statement also is a back-up to this. That was what Madara was talking about to Tsunade about being able to heal himself.
Comprehensive skills, once again...



I don't know about that. Naruto has gotten a lot stronger than he is and I still see some power-ups following. He still has the chakra from the tailed beasts...
And as I said, my guess is that she'll only get the medical skills.



Once again, in that part I was referring more at the medical skills because I am sure that Wood style is tooooooooooooooo far-fetched! I have no basis for that whatsoever and that, even to me, would look as a major ass-pull, excuse my language.
As for the other things, you do know I like her not because of her powers as we've discussed about it multiple times before.
I think she'll get those medical skills and be, just like you said, in the league of those like Minato, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, etc.
No special lineage, yet, strong enough.
Also, give me some time, but I will check it and tell you my opinion!



It's called a theory and we're having a discussion by now.
Face it, she is the heroine of the story.
Bye!



LOL! That made me laugh.
You owned the thread?
Well, then, own yourself out of the thread from now on.
Bye! :bye:

first of all,i thank you for taking the time to reply to each part of my earlier response.

but,i still don't completely agree with what you have said in this thread.yes,she'll get an upgrade.but,not a senju-related one.most probably will be an upgrade in medical ninjutsu and most probably genjutsu.anything beyond that is really far-fetched.

about the slug-sage mode thing,has it been mentioned anywhere that she'll get a storage tool for storing chakra?.....again you're coming up with blatant assumptions,chatte....again,tsunade summoning katsuyu when her chakra was low,in the sannin showdown is not a good example,we are not talking about how much chakra a summoning jutsu needs,instead we are talking about the amounts of slug-sage mode needs. ....and yes we don't know about how much chakra slug-sage mode will demand..in fact,we haven't seen much about slug-sage mode...but seeing the other two modes,anyone could guess it will not demand any less......!

you give too much emphasis on the drawings saying kishi follows patterns when he draws.while he does that to a certain extent,you cannot expect him to follow up on minor details like these.you are comparing neji's case to this one.neji's case was different! that fight with naruto was the turning point of neji's life.it changed him.that's why the eagle comparison was made when he died.that's why it was made full-circle.now,you're comparing something major like that to a minor detail like a symbol and the forehead?......yes,we can definitely see associations with the symbol thing and also with the forehead thing.but,you have to remember these are very minor details,and you cannot expect kishi to follow up on these.

nothing major has happened yet in sakura's life regarding the symbol.if that was the case,you could definitely say your theory had a real chance of happening.same with the forehead thing.just because it has linkages here and there doesn't mean it has a possibility of happening.you need something "solid" like in neji's case.then and then only you can say"yup this is a foreshadowing".

again your pulling out random things to make out connections.how is "you have no fashion taste" and ino making fun of sakura's forehead be anywhere even remotely related?....."sigh"....madara made fun about hashirama's clothing sense,while ino made fun about sakura's forehead which is a part of her face.there is absolutely no connection there.and i am not gonna even comment about that punching comparison.

you want real comparisons?.....try sasuke and naruto with madara and hashi.you will get tons of similarities.do you want me to present them?.....when you look at those comparisons these minor comparisons with sakura are really nothing..!that's why i keep telling you're making a big deal out of these very small things/details.look,every character in naruto are inter-related in some way or another.at first,sakura was compared to tsunade because of her short temper and monster strength.then she was compared to kushina,emphasizing on the short temper and hyper active part about sakura.the she was compared with rin,striking resemblance with the short hair,big forehead,and even the love triangle.look at naruto.he was compared to jiraiya,hashirama and even obito for some part.then sasuke,comparisons with orochimaru,kakashi and now praised as the new madara.see,i can go on and on with this.random similarities like these can be seen between major characters.if you give too much importance to it,you are bound to fail.

what i'm trying to say is,don't try to give too much importance to these minor details/similarities.if you have something solid and something no one can deny,then you can be sure of a foreshadowing like this.

about the bringer of darkness....well,i have no proof to tell you whether it requires huge chakra or not..!but i can tell you this,it is indeed a high-level jutsu(you confirmed it yourself) and high level jutsus always require high amounts of chakra..remember kakashi's words-"the higher the level of jutsu,the more chakra it requires".i am not entirely sure,but i think he mentioned this in the beginning of the series and when he and naruto were training for rasenshuriken.

and that comparsion thing with sakura and hashirama,i'm sorry i misunderstood it.i thought you might be emphasizing sakura is gonna reach hashirama's level as a shinobi.that's why i said all that.sorry again!

after shikamaru,you cannot bluntly say that she is the most intelligent character.there is shino,neji(although he is dead),etc also competing for that spot.yes,i agree she is a quick learner and definitely intelligent,but as i said before,you need to have a special level of genius to learn all those jutsu by yourself.yes,tsunade created a whole system of medical ninjutsu..but,remember that she had the capabilities to do so...tremendous chakra reserves,heritage from her grandfather,etc..but then again that's not exactly the same as learning high level jutsu from scrolls by yourself,is it?...

in the end,all i can say is this-i respect your opinion,and i do hope your favourite character gets some kind of major development,and i'm pretty sure she will.also,i hope she gets redeemed from all the hate that she gets,i know she doesn't deserve all that.i truly appreciate the efforts you have put in this thread,as always.and i gotta compliment you on your observatory skills.even though you are stretching your theory too much,there is no denying your great observatory skills for finding out those small little details!

thanks again for replying,chatte!have a nice day!