Theory: Kishimoto foreshadowing Sakura development via Hashirama Senju.

[Chakra]

I've always complained about her characyer development. I'm a Sakura fan so I'm dying for her to reveal her full potential. nice correlations.

 

[Arian]

I kinda agree...kishi is genious..and as itachi said we all live within our own illusions..and kishi is one hell of an illusion caster! we will see, i hope yourl are right! awesome thread btw

 

[Bogard]

Nice thread Chatte. I hope for it to happen so that haters should shut their mouth

 

[veggetta13]

I´m still vomiting spoilers, and no, I mean. yes he´s done that in the past but just by thinking in the story timing In stop being convinced on just how many chapters would it take to explain all of this and whether anyone´s doing it?? nice

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Not happening, no, negative, no bueno...

 

[johnny335704]

Sakura is normal girl. This might be their clan's symbol.

 

[Braveknight]

Remove the pink color and ur thread would be deleted.

Comparing hokage to a girl just cause of few dots on sheet? I totally disagree on your post.

 

[Honord Sage]

Kishi use Sakura as the Starting point of Naruto and Sasuke rivalry,Well Her work is done and She has faded into the back as the spectator in the drama, now the bigger concepts are in play a world at war,the ideas and concepts of the past are being challenge for a new and different future. Sakura is now a pawn in a very hard and vicious game of life.

 

[alexu9696]

Kishi use Sakura as the Starting point of Naruto and Sasuke rivalry,Well Her work is done and She has faded into the back as the spectator in the drama, now the bigger concepts are in play a world at war,the ideas and concepts of the past are being challenge for a new and different future. Sakura is now a pawn in a very hard and vicious game of life.

You are trying to explain this to sakura fans ? C'mon bro...

Kishi said he forgot Sakura when he was asked if he still whants Sakura to be a heroine....

Kishi said many times Sakura is a normal girl with normal parents

Kishi alreaady said you need to have a strong body to sustain sage mode " Kabuto used uzumaki dna from karin "

Even Tsunade who still has some power has no Sage Mode.... and yet they belive Sakura will get Sage Mode.... U_U

 

[Honord Sage]

You are trying to explain this to sakura fans ? C'mon bro...

Kishi said he forgot Sakura when he was asked if he still whants Sakura to be a heroine....

Kishi said many times Sakura is a normal girl with normal parents

Kishi alreaady said you need to have a strong body to sustain sage mode " Kabuto used uzumaki dna from karin "

Even Tsunade who still has some power has no Sage Mode.... and yet they belive Sakura will get Sage Mode.... U_U

Sakura was their in Naruto and Sasuke early personalty development,She serve as a starting point for both,They Naruto and Sasuke keep developing and Sakura did not,I don't see Sakura going beyond what She is now because it doesn't add to the Naruto ,Sasuke drama. She is not relevant to Naruto's and Sasuke development now. But every thing starts some ware and the relationship of Naruto and Sasuke toward each other was started by Sakura ignoring Naruto and chasing Sasuke.

 

[alexu9696]

Sakura was their in Naruto and Sasuke early personalty development,She serve as a starting point for both,They Naruto and Sasuke keep developing and Sakura did not,I don't see Sakura going beyond what She is now because it doesn't add to the Naruto ,Sasuke drama. She is not relevant to Naruto's and Sasuke development now. But every thing starts some ware and the relationship of Naruto and Sasuke toward each other was started by Sakura ignoring Naruto and chasing Sasuke.

I disagree on this , sakura's whole character is based around sasuke , when sasuke is around she will be around to in the plot

In the end Sakura and Sasuke will end up being the pylon of a new generation of the uchiha clan , one without the curse of hatred

Imagine a uchiha without the brain problem , a loveing guy without the need to go full ret..rd

Kishi will do this for the theme of new generation that will surpass the old generation , and he loves sasuke to much to let him die as the last uchiha , either by death in battle or old as fu.k death

 

[Chatte]

You might wanna keep this nice and polite if you still want to discuss the matter.
LE: Incoming long post of multiquotes, lol.

you guys, you are serious, I thought that if I didn't put a lol someone would laugh at me

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Hey, hey, it's ok, don't worry, we won't bite. ^_^

Nice Theory.... I had made a therory regarding Sakura taking an important place in the plot after Tsunade's death but it got a bit flammed.... L o l....

Thank you. Hmm, I'd like to see that theory if possible.
And I am sorry for that, I know how things tend to go when it comes to Sakura...

I definitely agree that her personality insofar as she cries like hashi did is similar, nice find. But everything else can be explained off, and no im not saying that because i dislike sakura.
For example, Sakura was always very intelligent, she was able to break free of genjutsu in the chuunin exam arc. So it comes as no surprise that she knew that the first hokage used mokuton, that doesnt establish any connection of her to the first. Using your logic i can argue that jiraiya is related to the rikudo sennin or will get powers like the so6p because he knew the sage had the rinnegan when he saw nagatos eyes.
Also about them having the same symbol i wouldnt really go there. I can show you 10 instances of the gedo mazo having the uzumaki clan symbol marked on it but as we knowthat to statue has nothing to do with that clan as i myself falsely believed when i made a theory about it long ago.

I wouldnt doubt that tsunade having a mark on her forehead proves her connection to hashirama since its canon manga fact that shes his granddaughter.I dont see how this connects to sakura though.

About yamato teaming up, well she didnt get along with sai if you recall so that could also be the reason.

Her figuring out zetsu can also be attributed to her intelligence and superior medical training under tsunade.
Umm, it was stated in the image you yourself showed that she knew neji was a zetsu because of the question she asked about ton ton, not because shes connected in anyway to the 1st.

About her getting stronger with senju like powers, it cant hurt cuz the juubi is screwing them over lol. But personally i think kishi had manyy chances to make her more strong and develop her character, im not sure if he will now but lets see what happens.

First of all, thanks.
Second of all, I know that everything can be explained otherwise, however, as I said, Kishi could've put any other character there. I am not saying she is a descendant of Hashirama or anything like this, I don't want her to be one. What I was saying is that she was always linked, one way or another with Shodai. As for Jiraiya and Rikudo Sennin, I can stretch that to explain why there is a link, why I think there is a link, but that doesn't mean he is related to him.
I know the Gedo Mazo's signs but unlike you, I do still think it has something to do with the Uzumakis. You shouldn't have abandoned that idea in my opinion. I'd recommend some of Derp Obito's theories. Really nice put and thought.
The connection with Sakura is not a connection as in blood relate, as I said. It's how, in my opinion, she could get to those levels without being a Senju by nature. And the fact that both are put on the forehead which is a big emphasis on Sakura's character, to me, at least, seeing Kishi's patterns it is a big deal. Of course, to others can mean nothing. And of course that in the end might be nothing. As I said in the thread, I could be wrong. But until proven wrong, it is in my right to at least believe something's there. And the basis I made all this is by following Kishi's patterns.
My idea behind finding Zetsu was why her. It could've been any other character, yet it was her, once more associating her one way or another to Hashi, more or less.
But anyway, as you said, as I said, we shall wait and see. ^_^
Sorry I don't have time to debate more about this, my time is really gotten short, lol.

i think you are seeing things that are not really there sure some of it may come true but i think you are digging to deep, i do think sakura will take on alot of tsunades ability (actually she has already) but there will not be any major power ups for her it has been way to long yes kishi does wait to boost characters but he does not wait this long sakura has only had one huge part which is her fight with sasori but thats about it to be honest good attempt however

Well, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But I am also entitled to my opinion to believe otherwise based, as I said and tried to briefly show, on patterns Kishimoto follows.
Well, you say she will take a lot of Tsunade's abilities...Well, guess from where Tsunade's abilities come from?
I know people think this because she hasn't been involved in fights but as I said, she isn't here for fights that much. That's why her development is of other nature and only when time comes, she is brought back. As someone said it once nicely, Sakura is the queen.
I'll just quote that person:

I want to share with you guys, a post of someone regarding Sakura’s usage in the manga, lack of action, so on, and so fort. It’s a really nice one, so thanks tricksie!
The picture tells a quick story.
But I think it can not be understated that Kishimoto knows exactly what he’s doing by leaving a cliffhanger of Naruto holding Hinata’s hand, only to follow up with the first page of the next chapter showing Sakura beautiful and radiant and fierce and specifically calling her a “heroine.” What bigger sign do we need? Sakura is the heroine. No matter how many hands Naruto holds.
The manga is like a game of chess, and each chapter sees a new piece being moved. Sakura is like the queen. She won’t be moved till the end. (Or like in shogi, which has been laid out in the manga and in this chapter, she would be like the king.) But each chapter is a give and take. Side pieces get moved, then the other side gets their turn. Sakura is a main character, the heroine of the story — the queen. When she is put into action it is going to be for a specific purpose that only she can accomplish. Hinata is a rook or a knight, there only to protect Naruto. As she herself as stated over and over again.

So anyway, when lamenting the lack of Sakura action, remember, she is the queen. She’s more powerful than the rest. She’s not going to be moved until the end.

We shall see if that's the only thing or not.
But thanks for taking your time to reply, nevertheless.

Beautiful thread Chatte u did it again lol I love your levels of maturity,humility and professionalism when u create threads distributing information about characters u like and dislike. You are definitely one of the best debater on this forum anyways I truly like Sakura character but to me allowing her to be stronger than tsunade at this point in time would be disrespectful on tsunade's behalf. I am kind of disappointed in the way kishi developed tsunade in the up coming match with Madara. I wanted to see more from her rather than an improve version of Mitotic regeneration. Giving her just that ability and em-phasing on how powerful her strength is was just a bummer for me. I knew she was stronger than the Raikage and also having regenerating abilities but I so wanted her to be able to use an ability from the Uzamaki clan and also be able to use sage chakara at jirayia level.

With that said if Tsuande had gotten this type of development then sakura could of easily followed in tsunade footsteps in gaining higher form of healing, learning genjutsu from Kureani and Ibiki as well as being able to summon slugs. It would of been the perfect fit but kishi held back on tsunade a bit and sakura being the second half have not experience any development lately which am not surprised. Sakura deserves credit from the author of this series, being one of the main character and also an influential kunochi to female viewers I believe that some work could of been done to her and tsunade. But your illustration on future developments by the symbolism of her being some what related to Harishima due to that mark on the forehead is awesome must admit. Even though she is not a senju I think obtaining an healing ability that is similar to that clan would give her an boost in reputation. Anyways well concluded and illustrated by Chatte lol Excellent work

Aww, thank you dear, you are too kind!
To be honest, I am torn in two by this situation a bit as well...However, you know what I'm satisfied with? That yes, she has no Mokuton, but at least in medical skills, Tsunade did surpass Hashi so in the end, Kishi does keep his word.
Why do I say that? Because look at it. Madara spoke about Hashirama's abilities to heal and we all thought it was normal, like Tsunade did. Yet, future chapters show us that Hashirama needed to enter in Sage Mode in order to have that ability.
Tsunade uses no Sage Mode yet she's able to heal herself at Hashi scale. So, she indeed, truly surpassed him here.
So even if he did, indeed, kinda messed-up a little things with Tsunade, at least he kind of made it right by making her surpass Hashirama in medical expertise. So she is at this level of badassery [ ] without even needing Sage Mode.
As for Sakura, I am sure Kishi will redeem her, if that's what others want. For me, her development runs exactly as it should be, but it seems it's not enough for others... People forgot she's a late bloomer.
But meh.
In the end, we should wait and see.

I also would like to add that Tsunade has the physical prowess of the 1st hokage. It has been stated before I just dont know from where. Now what is the coincindence that she is the only one (Sakura) that can use this as well? It takez excellent chakra control in order to use it so efficiently and there isnt anyone else aside from Tsunade that can utilize chakra in such a way. The biggest clue for me that she will get a boost in regards to the Shodai is that mere fact she can already hit as hard as he can. If not hit as hard but being able to do that where only Tsunade knows it adide from her is a big hint. Great thread Chatte.

Hah, another potential hint. Good find there! That's why I ask people to debate, because together we can find or not, lol, more insight to the matter. You know as they say, 2 brains are better than 1.
Nice find there, once again!
And thanks, dear!

o. O Well she is one of the 3 main people in this anime so she must have more to her then is placed in the manga/anime so far. She got the power and the healing but she can get just a bit more if you know what I mean.

Hahah, I do know what you mean.

plz chatte stop this Sakura fanboyism

Please get out of the thread if you don't like it, as I said at the beginning of the thread, Homer.
No one made you come here by force. When I don't like something, I leave.
Thanks! ^_^

I'm sorry, but Hashirama crying when his brother dies does not make him a crybaby. Especially when he's only a little kid.

I think you're reading too much into this. Mangakas have to use the same poses to convey emotions. They'll run out eventually, especially with 600+ chapters.

That's why I used the quotation marks in the first place. The idea was that Hashirama as well was an emotional person, just like her. Yes, his brother died, that's why he cried. He had a reason. Same Sakura every time she cries. But the emphasis here is that both characters have that similarity of being emotional, as I said. Not that he is a 'cry-baby'.
Hope we got that cleared up.
As for the second part, if you think that way, it's your own opinion. I beg to differ on the same poses. Kishi uses only the same poses when he wants to draw a parallel or a foreshadowing. That's it. He has made others emotional as well, but never drew them in the same pose with Sakura.
But each one with their opinion.

whether it happens or not , this is a really great thread and idea CHatte babe way to go, i like it and ive always liked Sakura..
Maybe there is something to this afterall; I was just thinking about making a thread about Sakura's future, but this is really nice.

Thanks, dear. Well, if it happens or not, at least we had a nice debate over it.

Things like this is why I like Naruto more than any other manga/anime. Everything seemed planned from day 1 so plot twist,ect are amazing. Nice find,very nice find. It hasn't happen yet but I think it will, things have happen to Naruto and Sasuke simlar to what you're saying about Sakura.

Same here. As I said, Kishi is a bastard genius, lol!
And yes, Kishi has his major events planned, he even said it in an interview. And what's nice is that he comes full circle with the development. And when I see Madara and Hashirama's relationship, besides the obvious Naruto/Sasuke parallel, it also reminds me a lot about Sakura's with Ino. The way he draws them... I will explain it better a bit later in the thread in order to enforce this idea that when Kishi foreshadows something, he draws scenes similar.

You sir, are a scholar. Very well done man! I personally think kishi just had a tendency to draw the circle just like the swirls and tomoe in a lot of things. But interesting nonetheless.

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. True, Kishi has a pattern when he draws things.

Avery good complete thought +

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

I could see it, I believe she will be a big part of the next arc for sure

Well if not in this arc, Team 7 resolution arc for sure.

I agree all the way great thread

Thank you! ^_^

this is why chatte is my favorite thread maker

Aww, thank you, dear! :hug: ^_^

Kishi has female issue for some reason he never give females @ss kicking role of no sort he seems like he discontinued the mind set that a women can and have kick @ss so sakura probably will never get a chance too shine!!

Oook...sorry for the reaction but you seem in contradiction a bit.
But I beg to differ on this opinion, sorry.

For some reason, I hope Sakura learns how to use Mokuton!

Lol, imagine how the forums would blow-up! I just hope for the high medical skills though ^^'
But Mokuton wouldn't be bad, though, hahah.

The circle might relate to sage mode or senju type powerup. Good post I like it!

Glad you do. Well, I kinda think it will have something to do with that as well.

alot of effort in this but honestly I think you're grasping at straws, I don't see it happening.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion.

That upgrade would be nice.

Right?

If that's true, than Sasuke made a huge mistake ditching Sakura. Their offspring would be Gods.

Oh, lol, his loss.

****, is sakura the daughter of the hashiramazz *****...??

Excuse me? I am sure I didn't understand your question...
As well, please refrain from that language...

I've always complained about her characyer development. I'm a Sakura fan so I'm dying for her to reveal her full potential. nice correlations.

Character development she has. But not how people would expect her, as in kicking-ass, excuse my language, and power-ups.
Let's hope we'll see those soon. ^_^

I kinda agree...kishi is genious..and as itachi said we all live within our own illusions..and kishi is one hell of an illusion caster! we will see, i hope yourl are right! awesome thread btw

Yup. Let's just hope for the best.
Thanks! ^_^

 

[Spirit Z]

Hashirama also has much affiliation with flowers such as his Flower World Jutsu. So that would fit Sakura perfectly.

However, I think there is more evidence supporting that she is NOT related. Her chakra, it's lame and insignificant. In fact, she never even uses it other than healing people. Which all Medical Shinobi do. Second, her symbol is represented on her clothes, but is just one circle, not two. Also note that she has her parents around, do they not have a clue? Lastly, if Kishi had planned on doing something this big, why would he leave her in the dust for so long? You could argue that it's to give a better surprise, or just badly written in that aspect. But it's not really, there's always attempts to boost her character's fanbase but she always falls short and just becomes a filler character that depends on everyone else. The only time she is significant is when all the important people are away. The Allied Mom Forces can do that.. xD

Last notes, if she is related that would make her related to Tsunade. Naruto and Sasuke aren't related to Jiriaya or Orochimaru. So that would be dumb.. And I'm not trying to bash Tsunade, but she IS related to Hashirama and she doesn't have any incredible jutsus. I think she fills the role of Hokage nicely, but that's about it. At best, Sakura may somehow develop Tsunade's regenerating abilities if she is related in some way. But I highly doubt Kishi would do that because it would ruin the Team 7 trio's comparison to the Legendary Sannin. Besides, isn't the Uzumaki clan a distant relative?

 

[NineSNS]

Excellent theory and lots of details to support it! There is no way that Sakura's development is done, and she HAS to be a pivotal character in the final chapters. Thanks!

 

[TheCCV]

She will get an upgrade.
She will get a powerup, as well as more character development.
And I'm going waaaaaaay out on a limb by saying this, but it may be a little, teensy bit related with like, 1% of something Hashirama had. He may play favorites with her since she's dead and she was her only and best student, a medic like her. So her will or some crap like that may have synched off to Sakura.

However, if that's not the case, I don't believe that she'll ever develop any type of connection with Hashi.

 

[Asami..]

Hashirama also has much affiliation with flowers such as his Flower World Jutsu. So that would fit Sakura perfectly.

However, I think there is more evidence supporting that she is NOT related. Her chakra, it's lame and insignificant. In fact, she never even uses it other than healing people. Which all Medical Shinobi do. Second, her symbol is represented on her clothes, but is just one circle, not two. Also note that she has her parents around, do they not have a clue? Lastly, if Kishi had planned on doing something this big, why would he leave her in the dust for so long? You could argue that it's to give a better surprise, or just badly written in that aspect. But it's not really, there's always attempts to boost her character's fanbase but she always falls short and just becomes a filler character that depends on everyone else. The only time she is significant is when all the important people are away. The Allied Mom Forces can do that.. xD

Last notes, if she is related that would make her related to Tsunade. Naruto and Sasuke aren't related to Jiriaya or Orochimaru. So that would be dumb.. And I'm not trying to bash Tsunade, but she IS related to Hashirama and she doesn't have any incredible jutsus. I think she fills the role of Hokage nicely, but that's about it. At best, Sakura may somehow develop Tsunade's regenerating abilities if she is related in some way. But I highly doubt Kishi would do that because it would ruin the Team 7 trio's comparison to the Legendary Sannin. Besides, isn't the Uzumaki clan a distant relative?

How is it lame and insignificant if she uses it to save a life?

 

[joshu34]

After my previous

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, I finally saw two patterns connecting each other, more or less.
It might be true, it might be not, but Kishi never does something without a reason. I know, you'll refuse to see it, because we're talking Sakura here and it's cool to hate on her, but I am here to talk to the ones I can have a discussion with.
Before saying no, it's not possible, it's just a drawing, I think you need to think not twice, but trice about it. How many of us knew back in the beginning that Naruto was part of one of the most powerful and feared clans? None. You'd say, but he's the protagonist, that's why! Well, like it or not, people, she's also a protagonist. Deal with it, really.
Now, let's get down to business.
In my previous thread containing the theory about possible character development for Sakura, I spoke about how she is, in a way or another associated/linked with Hashirama Senju. She is more or less present when something related to Shodai appears, that's why it lead me to believe that what we're seeing now, some details regarding Hashirama are foreshadowings that will lead to Sakura's development.
So, let me speak more about it in order to make myself understood better.
When I saw the latest chapters, a short thing bumped in my head.

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These are similarities that you can't get past. Or, you can, given we're talking Sakura...
But let me continue... I have seen some particularities in Sakura's character that remind me of Hashirama or, you could say, the viceversa. Particularities in Hashirama's character that reminded me of Sakura. But let us begin...

Remember when she was young, Sakura alwasy had this position she used to stay and cry. Kishi has drew Hashirama the same way in the latest chapter. Both Hashirama and Sakura have similar drawing style. And usually when Kishi wants to emphasize on something, he draws the characters similar.
So, here is Sakura:

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And, here is Hashirama:

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And as a proof, we have for example of Naruto, Yahiko, Nagato and Obito that have that similar big smile.

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Nagato's smile is from one of the panels of the extra pages included in the tankobon release of chapter 448.

As well, we have Hashirama being quite emotional and insecure (more or less) "cry-baby" as well, in the latest panels, remembering us about Sakura back in her childhood years.

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Now, getting past these association in personality, let's get to the idea I'm trying to make here.
Ever since the latest chapters appear, in my opinion, Hashirama foreshadows, as I said, possible upgrade for Sakura. In my previous theory, I explained you how she was more or less associated with Hashirama via Tsunade. Well, now, it's not only via Tsunade in my opinion.
Let me explain how.
Remember as I told you that back in part 1, Sakura made a big deal out of her forehead.

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Then, while Tsunade commented that Naruto is like a second Jiraiya, he commented that she, Tsunade, has raised another version of herself.

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Now, as I said back then, Kishi put an emphasis on the forehead via Tsunade's Yin Seal.

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Hundreds of chapters later, when Hashirama appears, guess what... his Sage Mode marking appears nowhere else but...exactly! On the forehead!

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Now, you would say that it's nothing... but remember my previous thread about how Sakura's Haruno symbol is similar to Naruto's one from the belly and arms?
Well, it's not only similar to that, but it's more similar to Hashirama's circle on the forehead.

Remember this?

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You may say it was coincidence, but I say it's not. Why? Because Kishi planned this symbol long time ago in his character design book:

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If you haven't picked it up, let me make it more clear...

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It's the exact symbol on Hashirama's forehead. You may say you don't believe it has a relevance... but let's think ... Why the same sign? Why on the forehead, which has been a big deal for Sakura back in the days? Why has she always been, in a way or another, associated with Hashirama? Why out of the newest generation she's the one to know about mokuton ninjutsu, a secret technique of Shodai's?
As I said in the previous theory regarding her development...

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Why her being the one knowing this back then?

Why her being paired with Yamato, in the mission they had?

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As well, later in the series, in this war... Why her being the one discovering the Zetsu, which is made from Hashirama, as we all know?

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Why showing her discovering data about Zetsus and coming to the conclusion they're made from Hashirama, being once again, somewhat associated with him?

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Why whenever it's something about Hashirama, almost every time Sakura is there? You might've said that it's all coincidence up till now, however, why have on his forehead, something important in Sakura's character, a symbol that is the same with the Haruno symbol. Be it coincidence? Or not?
You know as they say... There is no coincidence! And talking about Kishi, who, when trying to foreshadow something, convey a message, has similar drawing style for multiple characters, I say something is up there for Sakura. Is up to you to see it or not...

Anyway, if anyone has anything to add, feel free! But remember, discuss it nice and polite. I don't need trolls or people who dislike her. If you dislike her, simply, don't come into this thread. Avoid it.
Thank you!

LE: As well, why have her forehead thing drawn exactly like the Senjus used to have it back in the first picture with "Kishi what are you trying to pull" ?
Naruto's and Sasuke's are drawn differently, while Sakura's is drawn exactly like the Senju ones. Why?

Also, to make it clear, I am not saying she will be a Senju or something like this. What I am saying is that even if she is a normal girl, she might get to Senju-like powers, despite being a normal girl. Now that would be an excellent example of hard work and morale that even if you're not part of a clan, you can still be powerful. Minato Namikaze, anyone? ​

<b>first of all,i would like to begin by saying i have read most of your threads,and i like most of them.i have great respect for you!

but the last two threads including this one you made about sakura being associated with all these symbols,have been nothing but clutching at straws!

first of all just because sakura is a student of tsunade,and just because she happened to sit there under that symbol which was more than 600 chapters ago,how the hell can you make a claim she is going to attain any senju abilities?i doubt kishi himself remembers that he drew something like that back then....!

and that personality comparison between sakura and hashirama is just plain stupid.just because as a child,hashi sat and cried,so he resembles sakura?....good lord,chatte!and because he cried,he is an emotional crybaby?....."sigh"

i mean most people in narutoverse in their childhood have cried and expressed their emotional part.naruto,sasuke,lee,kiba,etc.....and the reason is because they were children.it's as simple as that.children cry because they are emotionally sensitive than adults.how in the hell could you link something like that in the case of hashirama and sakura?....whew...you really pull rabbits out of thin air,don't you chatte?

and again,with the forehead thing.....just because her forehead is so big,and just because that symbol appears appears on hashirama's forehead,she is going to get senju abilities?.....that is just another example of you clutching at straws!


i am not going to rant anymore regarding this matter,but get this!sakura indeed does have a chance of getting high-level medic ninjutsu,but that having anything to do with senju's is completely out of the question.i am not gonna explain why.think it over on your own.

there is a chance she might even get slug-sage mode....but in my opinion,really unlikely just because of the simple fact that she has less chakra reserves.yeah,she might be good at controlling chakra and using it effectively,but that still doesen't save her from the vulnerability of less-chakra reserves.and to be a sage,you need to have great chakra reserves,or else sakura will be a statue of a slug doing her "shannanaroo" pose.



and yes i agree with the fact sakura has access to the konoha library and the jutsu scrolls...but my question is"so what?"...just because she has access to that library doesn't mean in any way she is going to master major jutsus.

all i can say is that she may get some major medical ninjutsu's,genjutu's or perhaps even slug sage mode if she gets a magical chakra increase and also an increase in stamina courtesy of kishi.



apart from all this,i don't think there is any possibility of her getting any other powerups.she is eventually going to surpass tsunade one way or the other,but she won't be in sasuke's or naruto's league,no matter how hard she tries.they are just too powerful for anyone to catch upto them.sorry,but that's the truth!

she has no chance of learning bringer of darkness,as it's a high-level genjutsu requiring lots of chakra.so is mokuton.so is all the other senju abilities.and i'm surprised you're comparing sakura with hashirama like he's the boy next door.he's the "god of shinobi" for christ's sake.you cannot make comparisons of hashirama with each and every ninja out there!only the elite gets compared with him!
sorry if what i said offends you,but it's the truth!did you see how everyone in that room including orochimaru,sasuke,juugo,minato was shivering like hell when hashi just released his chakra.suigetsu was hiding like a little bitch.see,that's hashirama.you cannot compare someone like that to an everyday shinobi.not saying sakura is an average shinobi,but there really is no comparison between someone like him and somebody like her.

and in the end,you made a statement saying minato was able to learn uzumaki seals.but that's because kushina and people from her clan taught him those techniques directly.he didn't burst into the library to learn those techniques.it was taught to him directly as in practically.a genius like minato had other people's help to learn those seals.how in the hell is sakura going to learn anything by just wandering into the library?well,you can make a case of tsunade doing the practical teaching for her,but still she wouldn't have the capacity to learn major jutsu's like bringer of darkness,etc.

in conclusion,all i can say is this:-she will definitely have a power-up,and she will indeed surpass her master eventually.but,she wouldn't be in a position to stand up against any of the current antagonists(sasuke(temporarily),madara,obito,etc),because they are just too powerful.in future,make threads only if there are more solid evidence to confirm your theory,instead of just linking together symbols.
i really like most of the threads you've prepared over here.only some,like this one i find very exaggerating.sorry,i ranted on for quite long!sorry again if any of my words sounded offending to you!

have a nice day!</b>

 

[AnimusOra]

Hah, another potential hint. Good find there! That's why I ask people to debate, because together we can find or not, lol, more insight to the matter. You know as they say, 2 brains are better than 1.
Nice find there, once again!
And thanks, dear!

I think your noggin is a whole lot better than mine This was a very interesting read and I am glad to help anytime

Oh and I almost forgot. Im not sure if this is a similarity or not but do you think Kishi showing Hashirama running up the mountain is also a hint of his chakra control? Its similiar to when Naruto and Sasuke couldnt do it at the beggining running up the tree but for Sakura it was no big deal.

 

[3MESSIAH]

The first sakura thread that i found really interesting to read nice job for finding/connecting that symbols and all the association sakura had with SENJU hashirama
i guess i really wouldnt be surprised now if this was kishi`s design from the very start....team 7 consisting of the three relations to the three most powerful clans...sasuke being an uchiha,naruto an uzumaki and sakura being associated with SENJU.it does kind of make sense...at the very least i see sakura gaining tsunade`s byakugou and maybe hashi`s bringer of darkness because she is talented with genjutsu....i guess we will see

 

[Chatte]

Continuing with the multi-posts... There are already a lot in the previous post and I'm starting to have glitches, lol.
So...

Nice thread Chatte. I hope for it to happen so that haters should shut their mouth

Thanks, dear. Well, let's hope for the best, however, I tell you that, haters won't shut their mouth. They'll start complaining about how Kishi is ruining the manga, lol. Oh, and how he is taking some, excuse my language, ass-pulls, though everything will be explained one way or another. Wanna bet?

I´m still vomiting spoilers, and no, I mean. yes he´s done that in the past but just by thinking in the story timing In stop being convinced on just how many chapters would it take to explain all of this and whether anyone´s doing it?? nice

Lol, sorry for the spoilers. I wanted to keep it more clean! ^_^
Well, about that...dunno, that's Kishi's job, lol!

Not happening, no, negative, no bueno...

Yes happening, yes, porque no esta bueno, ey?

Sakura is normal girl. This might be their clan's symbol.

Yes she is. Does that mean she won't become awesome?
We shall see about the symbol.

Remove the pink color and ur thread would be deleted.

Comparing hokage to a girl just cause of few dots on sheet? I totally disagree on your post.

I had 4 threads before the pink color, none was deleted. You were trying to say?....
Fine, disagree. Bye!

Kishi use Sakura as the Starting point of Naruto and Sasuke rivalry,Well Her work is done and She has faded into the back as the spectator in the drama, now the bigger concepts are in play a world at war,the ideas and concepts of the past are being challenge for a new and different future. Sakura is now a pawn in a very hard and vicious game of life.

Sure, keep telling yourself that. I won't even bother to contradict you, given you're history as you know who and what.
But hey, whatever makes you happy.

You are trying to explain this to sakura fans ? C'mon bro...

Kishi said he forgot Sakura when he was asked if he still whants Sakura to be a heroine....

Kishi said many times Sakura is a normal girl with normal parents

Kishi alreaady said you need to have a strong body to sustain sage mode " Kabuto used uzumaki dna from karin "

Even Tsunade who still has some power has no Sage Mode.... and yet they belive Sakura will get Sage Mode.... U_U

Didn't I make myself clear about leaving the thread if you don't like what we're discussing?
This is my last call.
Kishi didn't say any of that, yet you continue to misinform people.
Nice game you got there.
As I said, final call.

Sakura was their in Naruto and Sasuke early personalty development,She serve as a starting point for both,They Naruto and Sasuke keep developing and Sakura did not,I don't see Sakura going beyond what She is now because it doesn't add to the Naruto ,Sasuke drama. She is not relevant to Naruto's and Sasuke development now. But every thing starts some ware and the relationship of Naruto and Sasuke toward each other was started by Sakura ignoring Naruto and chasing Sasuke.

I disagree on this , sakura's whole character is based around sasuke , when sasuke is around she will be around to in the plot

In the end Sakura and Sasuke will end up being the pylon of a new generation of the uchiha clan , one without the curse of hatred

Imagine a uchiha without the brain problem , a loveing guy without the need to go full ret..rd

Kishi will do this for the theme of new generation that will surpass the old generation , and he loves sasuke to much to let him die as the last uchiha , either by death in battle or old as fu.k death

Congratulations to both of you, you missed the other 70% of her importance in the story and character development.
Want a prize for it?

Hashirama also has much affiliation with flowers such as his Flower World Jutsu. So that would fit Sakura perfectly.

Hmmmmmmmm, interesting find there. And with what I found on the

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about flowers and genjutsu, this might have something to do with it.

However, I think there is more evidence supporting that she is NOT related. Her chakra, it's lame and insignificant. In fact, she never even uses it other than healing people. Which all Medical Shinobi do. Second, her symbol is represented on her clothes, but is just one circle, not two. Also note that she has her parents around, do they not have a clue? Lastly, if Kishi had planned on doing something this big, why would he leave her in the dust for so long? You could argue that it's to give a better surprise, or just badly written in that aspect. But it's not really, there's always attempts to boost her character's fanbase but she always falls short and just becomes a filler character that depends on everyone else. The only time she is significant is when all the important people are away. The Allied Mom Forces can do that.. xD

Ok, let me make it clear once more. I am not saying she is related. I am saying she is associated many times throughout the manga with Shodai, one way or another. I know they're not blood related or anything like that.
Now... about her chakra, how can you say it's lame and insignificant if you contradict yourself with your next statement regarding the fact she uses it to heal, like other medical ninjas. By default, her chakra is not lame. One.
And two, besides Tsunade, she is the only one able to use her chakra to enhance her strength. Besides Tsunade, she is the only one who can do it.
If her chakra wouldn't have been that special, why the other medical ninjas in this universe aren't able to have that strength? Why all the cast doesn't enhance their strength? Have you ever wondered why she is the only one? If not, start asking yourself now! [lol, this sounds like a commercial].
I know about her clothes, yet, Kishi made it clear on that specific page. Have you noticed that the Uchiha symbol sometimes isn't half filled, sometimes it is? Differences can be made. That circle in the middle might as well represent concentration of some sort. And given what I read somewhere long time ago, it can be, let's say, a final form of her symbol, to say it like this. Similar to how on they form on Hashirama.
As for the last part of your argument, I'd rather not comment on that. Did it sooo many times before that it has gotten tiresome, really.
All I am saying is that it's Kishi's manga, wether we like how he does things or not, in the end, it is his manga.

Last notes, if she is related that would make her related to Tsunade. Naruto and Sasuke aren't related to Jiriaya or Orochimaru. So that would be dumb.. And I'm not trying to bash Tsunade, but she IS related to Hashirama and she doesn't have any incredible jutsus. I think she fills the role of Hokage nicely, but that's about it. At best, Sakura may somehow develop Tsunade's regenerating abilities if she is related in some way. But I highly doubt Kishi would do that because it would ruin the Team 7 trio's comparison to the Legendary Sannin. Besides, isn't the Uzumaki clan a distant relative?

As I said, not related. Associated! Two different things. Now if Kishi decides to make her related like he did with the Uzumaki, now...that's another thing, not my business.
But I doubt he will...but meh, who knows...

Excellent theory and lots of details to support it! There is no way that Sakura's development is done, and she HAS to be a pivotal character in the final chapters. Thanks!

Thanks!
Well, I am about to bring other details to support it even better. The newest chapter just enforces my idea.
Pivotal character she is already. And I am sure she'll play a part soon enough.
Don't thank me, I thank you!

She will get an upgrade.
She will get a powerup, as well as more character development.
And I'm going waaaaaaay out on a limb by saying this, but it may be a little, teensy bit related with like, 1% of something Hashirama had. He may play favorites with her since she's dead and she was her only and best student, a medic like her. So her will or some crap like that may have synched off to Sakura.

However, if that's not the case, I don't believe that she'll ever develop any type of connection with Hashi.

Well, let's call Tsunade the link for the association. Like I said, I believe that it will only have to do with the medical abilities, that's it.

The first sakura thread that i found really interesting to read nice job for finding/connecting that symbols and all the association sakura had with SENJU hashirama
i guess i really wouldnt be surprised now if this was kishi`s design from the very start....team 7 consisting of the three relations to the three most powerful clans...sasuke being an uchiha,naruto an uzumaki and sakura being associated with SENJU.it does kind of make sense...at the very least i see sakura gaining tsunade`s byakugou and maybe hashi`s bringer of darkness because she is talented with genjutsu....i guess we will see

Thanks, dear, glad you liked it! ^_^
Well, what can I say, nice catch you had there. Never thought at this though I made all those connections, haha.
As I previously said, 2 brains is better than one.
And, yes, we will see in the end.

I think your noggin is a whole lot better than mine This was a very interesting read and I am glad to help anytime

Oh and I almost forgot. Im not sure if this is a similarity or not but do you think Kishi showing Hashirama running up the mountain is also a hint of his chakra control? Its similiar to when Naruto and Sasuke couldnt do it at the beggining running up the tree but for Sakura it was no big deal.

We should do more research together, lol.
And, yes yes and yes as I already told you. That was exactly in my mind when I saw that thing. As well, besides that, how they both punched each other. Kishi drew the scenes almost exactly the same in the fight Sakura had with Ino.
I'll soon write about this as well, to show once again, substantial evidence for my theory.

<b>first of all,i would like to begin by saying i have read most of your threads,and i like most of them.i have great respect for you!

but the last two threads including this one you made about sakura being associated with all these symbols,have been nothing but clutching at straws!

first of all just because sakura is a student of tsunade,and just because she happened to sit there under that symbol which was more than 600 chapters ago,how the hell can you make a claim she is going to attain any senju abilities?i doubt kishi himself remembers that he drew something like that back then....!

and that personality comparison between sakura and hashirama is just plain stupid.just because as a child,hashi sat and cried,so he resembles sakura?....good lord,chatte!and because he cried,he is an emotional crybaby?....."sigh"

i mean most people in narutoverse in their childhood have cried and expressed their emotional part.naruto,sasuke,lee,kiba,etc.....and the reason is because they were children.it's as simple as that.children cry because they are emotionally sensitive than adults.how in the hell could you link something like that in the case of hashirama and sakura?....whew...you really pull rabbits out of thin air,don't you chatte?

and again,with the forehead thing.....just because her forehead is so big,and just because that symbol appears appears on hashirama's forehead,she is going to get senju abilities?.....that is just another example of you clutching at straws!


i am not going to rant anymore regarding this matter,but get this!sakura indeed does have a chance of getting high-level medic ninjutsu,but that having anything to do with senju's is completely out of the question.i am not gonna explain why.think it over on your own.

there is a chance she might even get slug-sage mode....but in my opinion,really unlikely just because of the simple fact that she has less chakra reserves.yeah,she might be good at controlling chakra and using it effectively,but that still doesen't save her from the vulnerability of less-chakra reserves.and to be a sage,you need to have great chakra reserves,or else sakura will be a statue of a slug doing her "shannanaroo" pose.



and yes i agree with the fact sakura has access to the konoha library and the jutsu scrolls...but my question is"so what?"...just because she has access to that library doesn't mean in any way she is going to master major jutsus.

all i can say is that she may get some major medical ninjutsu's,genjutu's or perhaps even slug sage mode if she gets a magical chakra increase and also an increase in stamina courtesy of kishi.



apart from all this,i don't think there is any possibility of her getting any other powerups.she is eventually going to surpass tsunade one way or the other,but she won't be in sasuke's or naruto's league,no matter how hard she tries.they are just too powerful for anyone to catch upto them.sorry,but that's the truth!

she has no chance of learning bringer of darkness,as it's a high-level genjutsu requiring lots of chakra.so is mokuton.so is all the other senju abilities.and i'm surprised you're comparing sakura with hashirama like he's the boy next door.he's the "god of shinobi" for christ's sake.you cannot make comparisons of hashirama with each and every ninja out there!only the elite gets compared with him!
sorry if what i said offends you,but it's the truth!did you see how everyone in that room including orochimaru,sasuke,juugo,minato was shivering like hell when hashi just released his chakra.suigetsu was hiding like a little bitch.see,that's hashirama.you cannot compare someone like that to an everyday shinobi.not saying sakura is an average shinobi,but there really is no comparison between someone like him and somebody like her.

and in the end,you made a statement saying minato was able to learn uzumaki seals.but that's because kushina and people from her clan taught him those techniques directly.he didn't burst into the library to learn those techniques.it was taught to him directly as in practically.a genius like minato had other people's help to learn those seals.how in the hell is sakura going to learn anything by just wandering into the library?well,you can make a case of tsunade doing the practical teaching for her,but still she wouldn't have the capacity to learn major jutsu's like bringer of darkness,etc.

in conclusion,all i can say is this:-she will definitely have a power-up,and she will indeed surpass her master eventually.but,she wouldn't be in a position to stand up against any of the current antagonists(sasuke(temporarily),madara,obito,etc),because they are just too powerful.in future,make threads only if there are more solid evidence to confirm your theory,instead of just linking together symbols.
i really like most of the threads you've prepared over here.only some,like this one i find very exaggerating.sorry,i ranted on for quite long!sorry again if any of my words sounded offending to you!

have a nice day!</b>

Oh, dear... thanks, I guess.
I will edit this later with everything I have to respond in regards to this. It needs a proper answer.