[Theory] Juubi and Sage of six paths were one being The God in Past.

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In that very panel where Madara was talking about the division of the God:

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Madara in black symbolizes Yin (Elder Son) Hashirama in white representing Yang (Younger Son)
 

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Nice presentation even if its not true the presentation has made it acceptable to me. I like the ideal a lot. Super well done

Thanks a lot ;), I hope it come out ot be true :win:

Actually it's stated that the Rikūdo Sennin was a Human Priest who, after becoming the Jūbi's Jinchūriki, advanced beyond the realm of humanity, so he was born a human, not a god.


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Well he was seen as human priest by other humans, so even if he was God spirit with human body then he would be still be considered as Human due to human's body.

Again people who saw him after becoming Juubi Jinchurki considered him as God because he saved them. That why People said that The Sage after becoming Juubi Jin advanced beyond humanity.

So it is not fact that Sage of six paths is just human(Human's spirit + human's body) because he can be as well (God's spirti + Human's body), still humans would consider him as human..., until The Kishi, databook or The Juubi states precisely that The Sage was just human I will say that this is debatable.

For example in christatiny Jesus Christ was born as God in human body..., people still considered him as mere human..., so it could be still possible that The Sage of six paths was God's spirit + Human's body ;)

What do you think about such explanation ? ;)

possible theory

Thanks !

In that very panel where Madara was talking about the division of the God:

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Madara in black symbolizes Yin (Elder Son) Hashirama in white representing Yang (Younger Son)

Well we will see but I think that it can go either way ;)
 
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Well he was seen as human priest by other humans, so even if he was God spirit with human body then he would be still be considered as Human due to human's body.

Again people who saw him after becoming Juubi Jinchurki considered him as God because he saved them. That why People said that The Sage after becoming Juubi Jin advanced beyond humanity.

So it is not fact that Sage of six paths is just human(Human's spirit + human's body) because he can be as well (God's spirti + Human's body), still humans would consider him as human..., until The Kishi, databook or The Juubi states precisely that The Sage was just human I will say that this is debatable.

For example in christatiny Jesus Christ was born as God in human body..., people still considered him as mere human..., so it could be still possible that The Sage of six paths was God's spirit + Human's body ;)

What do you think about such explanation ? ;)

It was Tobi who said he advanced beyond the realm of humanity when he became Jūbi's Jinchūriki, Tobi had direct knowledge of these things because of Madara, meaning Rikudou was born a human, not a god, Rikudou was a mortal priest, the Sage and the Jūbi were not one being, Rikūdo became a god only after sealing Juubi, it is called Apotheosis Mortal becoming Divine.
 
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Is this a Rikudou wank thread in disguise?
Nope they were not one being,Rikudou was just d1ckriding the Juubi.
 

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It was Tobi who said he advanced beyond the realm of humanity when he became Jūbi's Jinchūriki, meaning he was a mortal priest prior to that, no, the Sage and the Jūbi were not one being, Rikūdo was born a human, it is called Apotheosis Mortal becoming Divine.

Well you can't deny that possibilty Sir Derp Obito

I respect your opinion, but until The Kishi, Juubi(divine being), The Sage himself states as you said until then I will still believe in my theory can be correct..., Obito is mere human as well so his opinion is not revealant to me...

even Madara is mere human..., only Kishi, Juubi or Sage can confirm 100% that The Sage was mere human prior to sealing Juubi or that he was God's spirit in Human's body.

I will stick to my theory until Manga states me wrong with divine being or Kishi's himself proving me wrong... Humans are just humans, they can only describe reality as they see it.

For example They saw The Sage as human due to human's body, so it not matter whenever The Sage soul is divine or just human, they can't even check it LOL

Besides The Sage didn't use all his godly power at whim to show someone that he is God..., he didn't want for humans to figure out that he is the God..., he wanted to save them while they didn't know that it was half of The God, similliar to as Itachi stopped Edo Tensei without show off, just doing it in secret.

Is this a Rikudou wank thread in disguise?
Nope they were not one being,Rikudou was just d1ckriding the Juubi.

whatever you say my dear hater :lol:
 
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Obito is mere human as well so his opinion is not revealant to me...

even Madara is mere human...

The difference between Tobi and Madara from the rest of humanity is that they had direct knowledge concerning the Rikūdo and the Jūbi because of the Uchiha Tablet:

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They are stating facts, not guesses/opinions
 
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The difference between Tobi and Madara from the rest of humanity is that they had direct knowledge concerning the Rikūdo and the Jūbi because of the Uchiha Tablet:

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They are stating facts, not guesses/opinions

^^ Well true... But Obito is known to tell some lies in past... so he is not credible.

Madara didn't say anything about Sage of six paths himself(wether he was mere human or God's spirit in human body)..., so he has yet to say something about it.

Wether Sage of six paths is God's immortal spirit in human body or Human's spirit in human's body it doesn't matter because for humans he looked like human and behaved like human, so they considered him as one of them.

Besides Why Sage of six paths as God's spirit could even write something on Uchiha Tablet which could mentions That The Sage is God's spirit ?...,

Please answer me this question above ;)

Remember that he would like to work/save humankind while acting in secret(same as Itachi was doing)... He didn't want to reveal to all people that he was God...(Part of Ultimate God)...

If Sage wrote on tablet that he is god spirit which only took human body form, then some hungry-power people could even harder trying to recreate his power... and searching for him and his secret. If he wanted to be just passive watcher then it couldn't make sense for him to reveal his godly existence to people, instead he give them hope that mere human can stop even almighty God(actually another half of Ultimate God aka Juubi)

Still I respect your Opinion Sir Derp, but it can go either way as I said ;)

Anyway thanks for such interesting discussion so far ;)
 
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^^ Well true... But Obito is known to tell some lies in past... so he is not credible.

Madara didn't say anything about Sage of six paths himself(wether he was mere human or God's spirit in human body)..., so he has yet to say something about it.

But even then considering that wether Sage of six paths is God's immortal spirit in human body or Human's spirit in human's body, it doesn't matter because for humans he looks like human and behave like human,s o they consider him as one of them.

Besides Why Sage of six paths as God's spirit could even write something on Uchiha Tablet which could mentions That The Sage is God's spirit..., remember that he would like to works/save humankind while acting in secret... He didn't want to reveal to all people that he was God...(Part of Ultimate God)...

If Sage wrote on tablet that he is god spirit which only took human body form, then some hungry-power people could even harder trying to recreate his power... and searching for him and his secret. If he wanted to be just passive watcher then it couldn't make sense.

Still I respect your Opinion Sir Derp, but it can go either way as I said ;)

Anyway thanks for such interesting discussion so far ;)

Thank you as well.

To resolve the ambiguity, maybe he was born from a human mother but from a divine "father", making him by definition a Demigod, like Heracles. Or Jesus.
 

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you should also include about how obito after taking control of juubi, took a lot of traits of SO6P as most likely that SO6P and juubi both have connection in mentally and physically.

anyway that was very good theory + rep
 

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Thank you as well.

To resolve the ambiguity, maybe he was born from a human mother but from a divine "father", making him by definition a Demigod, like Heracles. Or Jesus.

Well that could be great and fitting as well ;)

I agree Sage of six paths could be Demigod like heracles or Jesus....

I glad we agree ;), summarizing All three theories about Sage of six paths can come out to be true as:

1) The Sage and Juubi were once The Ultimate God
2) The Sage were bron as Demigod
3) The Sage was born as human and acquired all godly power via Juubi

All three theories can be true due to the ambiguity concerning the words/knowledge we have currently about The Sage of six paths for now ;)

Let's wait and hope for best with Kishi :win:

Once again thanks a lot ! Sir Derp Obito :D

you should also include about how obito after taking control of juubi, took a lot of traits of SO6P as most likely that SO6P and juubi both have connection in mentally and physically.

anyway that was very good theory + rep

Thanks for bringing it, I will add it soon ;), I completely forgot abotu that aspect. You are right that obito taking traits of SOSP after becoming Juubi Jinchurki could prove and show that The SOSP and Juubi both have connection in mentally and physcially ;)

Thanks onece again ! nice notice and good catch ;)
 
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