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I am going to try and make this one short but you know me, i love to pontificate. I am sure whoever that takes the time to read through the whole thing we come out wiser from the experience. There are 2 threads that I have already created the you may want to check out before or after reading this one. [
Actually I am going to say this right now, this isnt one of my best threads. I mean its not bad, but it isnt one of my best. I would have just deleted it and re-written it later but it was a bit of work to put together so I figured I would just post it and when I plan to redo it/build to it I would just make another thread. Enjoy
In this thread I am going to be explaining the reasons or atleast the main reasons as to why I dont find it hard to believe that the Byakugan proceeds the Sharingan. Ofcourse I already know that fan boys are going to shoot down this thread before they even get a chance to read it but hear me out... As always get some chips, drinks and a sammich and enjoy the read.
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In this thread I am going to be explaining the reasons or atleast the main reasons as to why I dont find it hard to believe that the Byakugan proceeds the Sharingan. Ofcourse I already know that fan boys are going to shoot down this thread before they even get a chance to read it but hear me out... As always get some chips, drinks and a sammich and enjoy the read.
Why I and Others think that the Byakugan proceeds the Sharingan
A while ago towards the chunnin exams kakashi made the point of specifically saying that the Uchiha clan stemmed from the Hyuga clan and says that as far as insight[
Now you can take what you want from scans #2-4 but the important thing is scan #1 where kakashi stated that the Uchiha clan came out of the Hyuga clan. And thus the Sharingan has to come out of the Byakugan. Ever since this people have argued whether or not that is actually the case. But I dont think arguing this fact is sensible. Kakashi wouldnt have said that if Kishimoto didnt want him to say that. And so to argue whether kakashi was telling to truth would mean that there could have been alot of truths said throughout the manga that could potentially be up for grabs. The very foundation of the manga itself will be rocked if we start to second guess whether each individual statement made in the Manga is actually true.
And so i believe we should go on believing that what kakashi said is true until kishimoto himself says otherwise.
I will give my reasons as to why I believe the Hyugu proceeded the Uchiha and you can see for yourself what you believe.
BTW dont you miss the good old days when fights between ninja ACTUALLY INVOLVED TAIJUTSU...
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] goes the Byakugan is far superior. Afterwards we see Neji, a gennin, displaying the ability to see things that goes far beyond what i believe Sasuke could have pulled off even with a 3 Tomie Sharingan.
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Now you can take what you want from scans #2-4 but the important thing is scan #1 where kakashi stated that the Uchiha clan came out of the Hyuga clan. And thus the Sharingan has to come out of the Byakugan. Ever since this people have argued whether or not that is actually the case. But I dont think arguing this fact is sensible. Kakashi wouldnt have said that if Kishimoto didnt want him to say that. And so to argue whether kakashi was telling to truth would mean that there could have been alot of truths said throughout the manga that could potentially be up for grabs. The very foundation of the manga itself will be rocked if we start to second guess whether each individual statement made in the Manga is actually true.
And so i believe we should go on believing that what kakashi said is true until kishimoto himself says otherwise.
I will give my reasons as to why I believe the Hyugu proceeded the Uchiha and you can see for yourself what you believe.
BTW dont you miss the good old days when fights between ninja ACTUALLY INVOLVED TAIJUTSU...
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What is Doujutsu
Doujutsu is basically any ocular ability in the Manga. It should be noted that All Doujutsu, to my knowledge, stem from chakra within the brain.
How the Sharingan works
This will actually mostly consist of a copy and paste of my earlier thread "
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" which I recommend you read for further insight to what I am saying. I will however be changing it slightly to better suite this thread (Added parts will be in italic).In the below are 2 Sections taken from "
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"What is the Sharingan?
The Sharingan is Chakra. Plain and simple, it is just special chakra, one which king Derp Obito, all hail the king, has speculated to be linked to the Juubi for a very long time. (Although in my argument I would say the Chakra was always there but was however corrupted by the Juubi, I dont think he would contest this addition.)
Yes, to put it simply it is chakra. But to put it not so simply it is a special kind of chakra. It is a chakra that has the ability to take on physicality. Much like the kyubi's tailed beast cloak seen when Naruto battled with Sasuke at the valley of the end[
This explains why Sharingans can be similar and yet so different. At the core all chakra is alike but onces you dig deeper into the chakra linked to the sharingan you find that everyone's chakras are not the same but infact are very different from each other.
This difference is reflected by each individual sharingans MS ability, and also explains the actual logic behind transplanting eyes between Uchiha to Uchiha and why the transplant fails if the two uchiha are close enough by blood. It is because the chakra in one eye has to be nearly identical to the chakra in the brain.
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Yes, to put it simply it is chakra. But to put it not so simply it is a special kind of chakra. It is a chakra that has the ability to take on physicality. Much like the kyubi's tailed beast cloak seen when Naruto battled with Sasuke at the valley of the end[
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]. It is Chakra that has the ability to become physical, and with that physicality comes a world of possibilities.This explains why Sharingans can be similar and yet so different. At the core all chakra is alike but onces you dig deeper into the chakra linked to the sharingan you find that everyone's chakras are not the same but infact are very different from each other.
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This difference is reflected by each individual sharingans MS ability, and also explains the actual logic behind transplanting eyes between Uchiha to Uchiha and why the transplant fails if the two uchiha are close enough by blood. It is because the chakra in one eye has to be nearly identical to the chakra in the brain.
Conclusion
So as you can see the Sharingan acts more as a focusing glass to manipulate the chakra inside of the brain and it is the manipulation of this chakra that leads into the abilities the Sharingan user can use.
*The ability to read and copy movements is merely a side effect of the increased chakra flow through the eye. Which makes alot of sense, if the increase of power of the Sharingan is linked to the increase of potency of the chakra in the brain then as the more chakra is poured into the eye then it would reflect an increase in seeing ability as the sharingan increases is power, from the 1 tomie sharingan to the EMS,.*
*The ability to read and copy movements is merely a side effect of the increased chakra flow through the eye. Which makes alot of sense, if the increase of power of the Sharingan is linked to the increase of potency of the chakra in the brain then as the more chakra is poured into the eye then it would reflect an increase in seeing ability as the sharingan increases is power, from the 1 tomie sharingan to the EMS,.*
My Theory on the Byakugan in retrospect to the Sharingan
With so much being said about the Sharingan I will try to make this short.
The Byakugan:
The Byakugan:
- Also stems from the Chakra in the brain
- Upon activation of the Byakugan the veins around the eyes bulge, which to me is a sign that more blood and chakra is being poured into the Byakugan. If the capability of the eye is as above linked to the amount of chakra that passess threw the eye then the bulge we see in the byakugan user NOT appearing in sharingan users could possibly be a sign that not as much chakra is passing through the sharingan. Which leads to one conclusion.
- Unlike the Sharingan user the Byakugan user, to the current cannon but I cannot say for sure, cannot materialize there chakra, ergo Susan'o & MS Abilities, which in my thread "Analysis of the Sharingan & Susan'o' I point out the direct correlation between Susan'o and the Sharingans ability to use Genjutsu. So not being able to use Susan'o would also explain why the Byakugan user cannot use genjutsu.
Argument for the Hyuga > Uchiha Theory
Now a point in favor of the idea that Kakashi proposed which is that "The origins of the Uchiha lie within the Hyuga clan" is the fact that the Sharingan does appear to be an inferior form of the Byakugan or at the very least a mutation of it. Now it does have its strong points one of which is that it can materialize its chakra, but the following reasons are why I see the Sharingan to be an mutation of the Byakugan.
Now when you compare the 3tomie Sharingan to the byakugan like I have done in my "
- The fact that the Sharingan user is born without the special chakra in his brain while the Byakugan user is born with the special chakra in his brain goes to show that the Sharingan is a lesser Byakugan. This mutation could have come from a Hyuga member having a child with a non-hyuga member thus creating a lesser Byakugan that would have to be activated rather than already being there at birth.
- Upon activating the Byakugan the veins around the Hyuga's eyes begin the bulge. This signifies the increase chakra flow to the eyes that make the byakugan possible. But upon the activation of the Sharingan one see's no bulding in the veins of the Uchiha. This to me shows that there is less chakra being used the Sharingan when compared to the Byakugan.
- The field of vision is also a show that the Sharingan is inferior. It is arguable that the Sharingan and the Byakugan have the same movement reading capabilities along with its abiity to read chakra. But the byakugan does this SAME thing in a nearly 360 field of vision up to half a mile[
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Now when you compare the 3tomie Sharingan to the byakugan like I have done in my "
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" thread you will see there is no contest.Conclusion
I started with with high hopes but I feel that I may have created more questions than answers. To simplify it I will say these things:
Kakashi has already said that the Hyuga proceedes the Uchiha and thus we know that the Sharingan must be some kind of offspring of the Byakugan. And that to challenge this would be to challenge the very foundation of the Manga.
After which I went on to explain what the Sharingan and Byakugan were and how the Sharingan was inferior to the byakugan merely to try to strengthen kakashi's statement.
Kakashi has already said that the Hyuga proceedes the Uchiha and thus we know that the Sharingan must be some kind of offspring of the Byakugan. And that to challenge this would be to challenge the very foundation of the Manga.
After which I went on to explain what the Sharingan and Byakugan were and how the Sharingan was inferior to the byakugan merely to try to strengthen kakashi's statement.
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