[Theory] how Sasuke surprass None jin Madara and Naruto surprass SM Hashirama

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys , I would like to share with you my theory: "how Sasuke surprass None jin Madara and Naruto surprass SM Hashirama". Here I go:

Sasuke :​

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^^ Orochimaru was the one who stated that one day Sasuke will surprass Madara. First I assumed Orochimaru reffered to EMS Madara in vote battle, but now when Rinnegan for Sasuke is really very possible option:

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Now you may ask how it is possible for Sasuke with Rinnegan surprass Madara with Rinnegan if Madara was stated to master Rinnegan, besides it would be unorginal and not effective power up.

Elder Son's eyes should be out of question because they are most likely EMS's design made specially by Kishi to look like Rinnegan to confuse readers and create doubts.

The answer is Ten tails's eye:

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even Obito wanted these eyes so badly as he stated that he uses Ten tails power to magnify his eyes to ultimate level:

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There is nothing greater the ultimate eye used by Progenitor of shinobi world which techniques and abilities are unknown. The greatest mystery about this eye could completly fit Sasuke.

Naruto :​

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^^ Tobirama, Hashirama's brother was the one who stated that Naruto will most likely surprass Hashirama powerwise and as Hokage. Yet it was denied all this time as SM Hashirama was still stronger then BSM Naruto with Half Kurama, however Currently it is very possible for Naruto to get Pseudo Ten tails mode/Sage of six paths mode due to Obito sealing a bit of Gyuuki and Shukaku chakra in Naruto:

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Now we know that Ten tails is nature itself in essence taking on shape:

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It would gives Naruto huge power boost to Sage mode and amount of nature energy allow him to enter much more powerfull Sage mode while Naruto doesnt need to worry about constant absorbing of nature energy as Ten tails has automatic nature energy absorption even while moving.

Any Tailed beasts or other related powers are out of questions as Naruto can not depend on them forever.

The answer is Pseudo Ten tails mode:

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it put not just Obito but Madara also on completly another level.

I believe while Naruto will surprass even Younger son's body and reach Sage's, Ten tails's body and while Sasuke will surprass even Elder son's eyes and reach even Sage's eyes, Ten tails's eyes then separetely they will be still weaker then even Juubi Jinchurki Obito, but together they would be very close, match or little surprass Rikudou Madara.

SUMMARY : ​

• Naruto will surprass even Younger son's body and reach Sage's, Ten tails's body by gaining Sage's, Ten tails's body on his own.
• Sasuke will surprass even Elder son's eyes and reach even Sage's eyes, Ten tails's eyes by gaining Sage's eyes, Ten tails's eyes on his own.
• Separetely neither Naruto or Sasuke will be stronger then even Juubi Jinchurki Obito, not even mentioning Juubi Jinchurki Madara.
• Together Naruto and Sasuke will be stronger then Juubi Jinchurki Obito, being very close, matching or surprassing a little Rikudou Madara.

Thanks for reading !

Please share your thoughts

 

[Reflection]

Naruto will be stronger than Sausage.

 

[bashkim]

I do not agree with all matters, but good thread.

 

[iNotorious]

Of course, naruto will become a pseudo juubi jinchuuriki but my question is after they defeat madara, will naruto become a fully 10 tails juubi jinchuuriki?​

 

[riley freeman]

I agree on almost everything

 

[KCMNaruto]

Of course, naruto will become a pseudo juubi jinchuuriki but my question is after they defeat madara, will naruto become a fully 10 tails juubi jinchuuriki?​

Well it is up to Kishi... but I believe not maybe after final fight with Sasuke in the end of manga he becomes Full 10 tails Juubi Jinchurki after befriending Shinjuu itself or other form created by friendly tailed beasts combined into one form and this Naruto will surprass even Ten tails host Hagoromo Ootsutsuki, but his power will be never displayed as Naruto will end there.

 

[iNotorious]

Well it is up to Kishi... but I believe not maybe after final fight with Sasuke in the end of manga he becomes Full 10 tails Juubi Jinchurki after befriending Shinjuu itself or other form created by friendly tailed beasts combined into one form and this Naruto will surprass even Ten tails host Hagoromo Ootsutsuki, but his power will be never displayed as Naruto will end there.

Well he has to surpass the old man so that's the only way to do it, becoming 10 tails jinchuuriki and achieving peace.​

 

[Xāvî1]

Of course, naruto will become a pseudo juubi jinchuuriki but my question is after they defeat madara, will naruto become a fully 10 tails juubi jinchuuriki?​

I think so

 

[KCMNaruto]

Well he has to surpass the old man so that's the only way to do it, becoming 10 tails jinchuuriki and achieving peace.​

Truth but it will not happen until the end of manga, mark my words

After war and even currently Naruto will suprass Sage in every way but not powerwise but in the end of manga after final fight with Sasuke he will surprass Sage also powerwise.

 

[kunde]

Great thread KCMNaruto, i agree with most parts.

But my que is Does sasuke even know how to use rinnegan techniques?

 

[riley freeman]

Truth but it will not happen until the end of manga, mark my words

After war and even currently Naruto will suprass Sage in every way but not powerwise but in the end of manga after final fight with Sasuke he will surprass Sage also powerwise.

I doubt he will fight sasuke

 

[KCMNaruto]

Great thread KCMNaruto, i agree with most parts.

But my que is Does sasuke even know how to use rinnegan techniques?

Thank you very much. Well Sasuke doesn't know how to use rinnegan techniques, but maybe Rinnegan acts like door to all knowledge as well. This is at least what I believe into... and how precise and specific find can be depend from level of mastery with Rinnegan's use.

I doubt he will fight sasuke

Well Kishi said he will... so we have to wait and see

 

[bashkim]

Yes but why you guys think Naruto will be strong as Sasuke?
He has Yin Kurama and bit portions of the Bijus Chakra.

 

[kunde]

Thank you very much. Well Sasuke doesn't know how to use rinnegan techniques, but maybe Rinnegan acts like door to all knowledge as well. This is at least what I believe into... and how precise and specific find can be depend from level of mastery with Rinnegan's use.

Exactly. Which is why i dont believe sasuke's next powerup in this war arc will be Rin'negan. He still has to show the full potential of EMS. After all, he was implanted with Itachi's eyes who was in possession of Totsuka sword and yata mirror . And yata mirror was sage's tool. These two tools were meant to be transferred to sasuke IMO.

Secondly, Sasuke has been consuming Karin uzumaki's chakra. And Uzumaki's are known to have great amount of life force+vitality. Who knows this Uchiha + Uzumaki might lead to some other powerful Dojutsu? or any other powerup besides Dojutsu? Only time will tell, but i believe there must be a reason why kishi ended up Uchiha Sasuke with an Uzumaki.

 

[iNotorious]

I think so

Yea​

Truth but it will not happen until the end of manga, mark my words

After war and even currently Naruto will suprass Sage in every way but not powerwise but in the end of manga after final fight with Sasuke he will surprass Sage also powerwise.

Indeed he well​

 

[KCMNaruto]

Yes but why you guys think Naruto will be strong as Sasuke?
He has Yin Kurama and bit portions of the Bijus Chakra.

Simply because Juubi's body = Juubi's eye

just accept it and stop thinking too much about it

Exactly. Which is why i dont believe sasuke's next powerup in this war arc will be Rin'negan. He still has to show the full potential of EMS. After all, he was implanted with Itachi's eyes who was in possession of Totsuka sword and yata mirror . And yata mirror was sage's tool. These two tools were meant to be transferred to sasuke IMO.

Secondly, Sasuke has been consuming Karin uzumaki's chakra. And Uzumaki's are known to have great amount of life force+vitality. Who knows this Uchiha + Uzumaki might lead to some other powerful Dojutsu? or any other powerup besides Dojutsu? Only time will tell, but i believe there must be a reason why kishi ended up Uchiha Sasuke with an Uzumaki.

Well I could completly agree with you but in the lastest chapter Kishi emphasized strong enough about Kabuto having Hashirama's cells and now healing Sasuke by connecting to him so you should connect dots and then you know what is comming.

 

[kunde]

Well I could completly agree with you but in the lastest chapter Kishi emphasized strong enough about Kabuto having Hashirama's cells and now healing Sasuke by connecting to him so you should connect dots and then you know what is comming.

Yeah i know what you are saying, but according to manga it takes time for rin'negan to awaken. And it's highly unlikely that Kishi will go against his own rules is all i'm saying . Maybe sasuke will get hashi's SM instead? because only senjutsu works against madara.

 

[AGoodBoy]

what would be interesting is if, when naruto gets 10 tails, his appearance doesn't change. But, instead, he simply looks like regular SM naruto except this time, instead of being able to house, for ex., 200 units of nature energy at a time, The juubi allows him to house, let's say, 100000. We already know that the more nature energy you're using, the stronger you become. That simple increase in the amount of nature energy he's using, at any one time, would make naruto seriously OP without having to look like some gimick hero in some wack ass costume and cloak.

 

[iNotorious]

what would be interesting is if, when naruto gets 10 tails, his appearance doesn't change. But, instead, he simply looks like regular SM naruto except this time, instead of being able to house, for ex., 200 units of nature energy at a time, The juubi allows him to house, let's say, 100000. We already know that the more nature energy you're using, the stronger you become. That simple increase in the amount of nature energy he's using, at any one time, would make naruto seriously OP without having to look like some gimick hero in some wack ass costume and cloak.

It should get a badass cloak, a purple one.

 

[iFlowMotion]

So basically just repetitive powers. Rinnegan and juubi jin hand me downs. Thats makes for an interesting story.