[Spoilers] Theory: How Obito and Masked Zetsu go out from madara's hide-out?

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On this page white zetsu said to obito that they can move through the earth...

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Then on this page obito punch the wall and his right arm was deformed and then obito and masked zetsu fused

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My question is how and what will obito/masked zetsu do to go to rin and kakashi's place in a very fast way? here are the choices:

a. If the masked zetsu was durable and strong does it mean that in 1-2 punch they can destroy the wall?and if they run it will definitley buy some/long time to go to the place of kakashi and rin.

b. Obito and masked zetsu will move to earth like phasing out? (see sample picture below where tobi's half body was on earth) although we already know that tobi phasing out was because of his kamui that brings his body to the other dimension. But we also remember kakashi cannot phasing out by himself although he's using obito's left eye. If they do this they can go to rin and kakashi's place in a very fast way.


so what do you think? is it a or b? :)

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I think its obvious answer c, zetsu`s ability to move trough the earth.
I thought it was kinda obvious ;)

Edit: you said it with answer b but then showed a pic where tobi used his ms technique to go through the floor;)
 
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The simple thing is that Obito can phase through earth bcos of the zetsu part he got not just because of his Kamui... You can see that he even got some of Zetsu's power when his right hand formed and a little wood came out as well:

That means with time he mastered the technique as well as his Kamui after seeing Rin die or He absorbed masked zetsu... I have a feeling (anyway its just what I feel not fact) but I could bet Madara had a hand in Rin's death in order to keep Obito and make him come back to take his plan up by killing his current dream of protecting Rin...
as we can see, Madara was listening to their conversation but he didnt say anything:
he just let them continue: and masked fused with Obito and told him Madara is a good man and tried to persuade him by asking if he doesnt wanna save Rin and Kakashi almost like he is pushing him to go out there so he can see and witness pain...
NOTE: Madara is their Boss, so if he says no one is going out, they wont dare to disobey, but this time he had a plan behind it.

This is what I think, dont know how true any of it is... we jst have to wait for Kishi in order to avoid getting flamed for no reason
 

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I think its obvious answer c, zetsu`s ability to move trough the earth.
I thought it was kinda obvious ;)

Edit: you said it with answer b but then showed a pic where tobi used his ms technique to go through the floor;)
yes i show the pic so that maybe there is a possibilities that tobi can phase out without using kamui and maybe the masked zetsu was still on the half body of tobi thats why we never saw masked zetsu before..=)
thanks for your answer..yes its c! =)
 

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The simple thing is that Obito can phase through earth bcos of the zetsu part he got not just because of his Kamui... You can see that he even got some of Zetsu's power when his right hand formed and a little wood came out as well:

That means with time he mastered the technique as well as his Kamui after seeing Rin die or He absorbed masked zetsu... I have a feeling (anyway its just what I feel not fact) but I could bet Madara had a hand in Rin's death in order to keep Obito and make him come back to take his plan up by killing his current dream of protecting Rin...
as we can see, Madara was listening to their conversation but he didnt say anything:
he just let them continue: and masked fused with Obito and told him Madara is a good man and tried to persuade him by asking if he doesnt wanna save Rin and Kakashi almost like he is pushing him to go out there so he can see and witness pain...
NOTE: Madara is their Boss, so if he says no one is going out, they wont dare to disobey, but this time he had a plan behind it.

This is what I think, dont know how true any of it is... we jst have to wait for Kishi in order to avoid getting flamed for no reason
the picture you've shown some thinks that the wood was came from the bed if you can see at the right side of obito that there is a cut on the root that maybe thats the wood came from..

anyway we have the same idea I'm also thinking that maybe the masked zetsu totally fuzed with obito..but this is only a guess.. as what you said we need to wait kishi and what will happen next week..=)
 

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yes i show the pic so that maybe there is a possibilities that tobi can phase out without using kamui and maybe the masked zetsu was still on the half body of tobi thats why we never saw masked zetsu before..=)
thanks for your answer..yes its c! =)
We see Kakashi counter his phasing by sending the rasengan to the other dimention at the same time. So no he isnt using zetsu to do that
 

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We see Kakashi counter his phasing by sending the rasengan to the other dimention at the same time. So no he isnt using zetsu to do that
yes kakashi do that and after he kamuid the rasengan there is an spiral thing showing that the rasengan has been kamuid... I'm also thinking why sometimes obito phasing out without seeing the spiral thing? how obito do that? maybe obito have some abilities within him or maybe because of zetsu in his body?(thats only a guess) =)
 

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yes kakashi do that and after he kamuid the rasengan there is an spiral thing showing that the rasengan has been kamuid... I'm also thinking why sometimes obito phasing out without seeing the spiral thing? how obito do that? maybe obito have some abilities within him or maybe because of zetsu in his body?(thats only a guess) =)
I believe Konan answered this:
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I can't say for sure whether it has anything to do with zetsu, it could be that zetsu somehow was given some of obitos abilities, which could explain the zetsu being in control when he was just a good boy..

But I highly doubt that theory. Rather I think it's just part of his ability, he can be intangible at about 5 minutes at a time, which in return means he can solidfy much faster, however, he has to solidfy to absorb himself, which is why he couldn't escape from Konans technique.
 

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I think its obvious answer c, zetsu`s ability to move trough the earth.
I thought it was kinda obvious ;)

Edit: you said it with answer b but then showed a pic where tobi used his ms technique to go through the floor;)
i thought it was also obvious.....wtf the answer is letter A O.O
 
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