Theory : How Ginakaku & Kinakau Won against the 2nd Hokage Tobirama Senju.

[Pravin5]

just so Clear your Doubt that Tobirama isnt Weak .
i would like to tell you Something.

Ginakaku & Kinakau Brother May have Killed 2nd Hokage or Only Def. him not Killed him. there is no Manga Proof of How he Died But I think he got Defeated by Ginakaku & Kinakau Due to lack of Knowledge about Them just like How Jiraiya Lost against Pain.

Its Clear Pain himself said Jiraiya was Stronger & they Only won Cause they had this Seceret & I think only 2 or 3 Shinobi in history could have manage to def Pain without any Knowledge.

So Here is a Thing 2nd Hokage didnt know a shit About his Opponents. Thats why he choose to become a Decoy & named Hiruzen the 3rd Hokage. After that he fought Gina & Kina But he didnt knew what there abilities are and also its was Handicap match.
plus they had 4 great Weapons & also the Kyubi chakra.
Just like How Jiraiya got def. by pain due to no Knowledge about him.
Same goes for Tobirama he didnt had any Knowledge about Ginakaku & Kinakaku those he lost the battle.

again just so you guys dont think Darui was Stronger than 2nd
Lets See this Darui only Sealed them not defeated them + he also had Help from his own luck & nice nature.
and more than That Darui knew all about there Techniques.
While They were Unknown about Daryis Techniques.
Ginakaku & Kinakaku didnt get the chance to Fight Darui till the end.

and also if Tobirama had nowledge about Ginakaku & Kinakaku Then 2nd Hokage could have Rapedd them Both. but sadly in Naruto Series the Strongest always Dont win. there is need of Luck + Situation.

 

[~Dream~]

Agreed.

 

[King Of Crows]

Yes <(u_u<)

 

[Dribbles]

Honestly, this thread makes no sense and is so hard to read. ​

 

[Normal fanboy]

makes sense but then again your not saying much.

 

[Emo boy nagato]

yeah i really dis like them 2 i think it's observed that 2nd hokage lost 2 them :0

 

[wridacule]

i agree tobirama wasnt weak but...didnt he get jumped by like 20 guys? doubt they wouldve been fodder if they were planning to ambush the hokage with a group of people with him. people who say hes weak because they didnt name his attackers are kind ignorant or trolling if you ask me

 

[xjimbox]

Yeah makes sense

 

[SilverSlick]

I agree, just look at my status for Christ's sake!

 

[Traffy]

Tobirama knew about them, they attacked him and the 2nd Raikage at a peace pact and left him on the verge of death.

 

[Orochimagus]

Wrong. Tobirama Senju fought against the brothers on a prior occasion during a treaty with the Raikage where they left the Hokage injured and near death. He would have learned their abilities by then.

Now, Tobirama died by being overpowered and outnumbered. The Kinkaku Force had 20 elites, and maybe the brothers were part of it (Debatable since by then they had been vanished from the country, but they might have accepted them during time of war). We know that they did not use the sage's weapons on the Hokage because his soul was not sealed, and Orochimaru summoned him without an issue. This means that he probably could not handle either one of them in their beast mode. Kakuzu witnessed one of them transform in the past, and in the present he assumed one of the brothers have fallen. This would show that Tobirama might have killed either one of them, and suffered the wrath of the second one. I like to think that the Hokage took both of them down with him at least, to explain why the brothers both died young.

 

[Elio]

But he died by 20 ninjas...not Gin&Kin.

 

[Orochimagus]

Heart, the 20 ninja unit that attacked him was the Kinkaku Force...

 

[Pravin5]

I didnt said about 20 ninja & how 2nd hokage died.
I am talking about how he got defeated thats all.

 

[Bogard]

No knowledge about Rikudoo's weapons when you know he is his descendant? Doubt it

 

[Orochimagus]

No one said he got defeated. Simply left within an inch of his life. He could have left them in that condition as well in a tie. Either way, your logic does not work if we assume they were the ones who killed him in the second meeting. He was simply overpowered in both cases because they did not use sealing in neither of their fights.

 

[gordo1]

Agreed. Makes complete sense.

 

[Orochimagus]

No it does not. >_>

 

[MNU]

Tobirama knew about them, they attacked him and the 2nd Raikage at a peace pact and left him on the verge of death.

So true i didn't remember this Lol +rep

 

[Pravin5]

No one said he got defeated. Simply left within an inch of his life. He could have left them in that condition as well in a tie. Either way, your logic does not work if we assume they were the ones who killed him in the second meeting. He was simply overpowered in both cases because they did not use sealing in neither of their fights.

so tell me the name of 20 ninja who attacked tobirama ?
Hahaha no one knows that Just imagine if those 20 ninjas were from Uchiha clan. Or 20 jounnin ninja as strong as kakashi.
You dont have manga proof to make sense but i am making sense by Saying Tobirama wasnt weak as people thing about him.
He was a hokage afterall.
And just imagine if those 20 ninja were unknown using unique ability. Its same as fighting paths of pain the only - point is jiraiya only had to fight 6 but Tobirama fought 20+