[Theory] Hiruzen and Enma King fusion is comming

Do you agree with my theory ?

  • Yes

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KCMNaruto

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Hello guys I would like to talk about poor Hiruzen... most of the members ignore or forgot.

As we know Hiruzen is able to summon Monkey King Enma, his greatest summon. The Monkey King Enma is based
on Su Wukong... known as "Monkey King". Considering that Kishimoto based creation The Monkey King Enma on Su Wukong, we can speculate about possible new abilities for Hiruzen.



^^ It is stated that "Sun Wukong possesses an immense amount of strength; he is able to lift his 13,500 jīn (8,100 kilograms (18,000 lb)) staff with ease. He is also extremely fast, able to travel 108,000 li (54,000 kilometres (34,000 mi)) in one somersault. Sun knows 72 transformations, which allows him to transform into various animals and objects; he has trouble, however, transforming into other people, because he is unable to complete the transformation of his tail. He is a skilled fighter, capable of holding his own against the best generals of heaven. Each of his hairs possesses magical properties, and is capable of transforming either into a clone of the Monkey King himself, or various weapons, animals, and other objects. He also knows spells that can command wind, part water, conjure protective circles against demons, and freeze humans, demons, and gods alike."

Of course Kishi didn't need to follow it word in word in creation of Monkey King Enma...

But for sure Monkey King Enma possess an immense amount of strength, He is fast and know a lot of transformations as only two were revealed to us. First in transformation in adamantine staff:

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Second one is:

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^^ Cage which protect him against Hashirama's wood release

Interesting fact is that Su Wukong had to protect defenceless monk Xuanzang. Of course Hiruzen is not defenceless... but Su Wukong protected this monk and finally fused with Xuanzang accomplishing his mission to always protect that monk.

This is article about that monk for interested:

What if Hiruzen the greatest power up is fusion with Monkey King Enma... we know that this could be possible as Kisame already fused with his sword Samehada:

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^^ Kisame wasn't weak either but his strength and full power lays in his Sword Samehada

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^^ This Master from Enka spoted it right away that The Sword was main stregth of Kisame...

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^^ This is what Kisame became after fusion

Interesting Similarity I noticed is that Kisame uses his Samehada Sword in every batttle... samw with Hiruzen summoning Enma to help in every battle. Considence, maybe but it could brings us to interesting conclusion ;)

THIS IS HOW HIRUZEN FUSION WITH MONKEY KING ENMA COULD LOOK LIKE:

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^^ This is very possible as Kishi's great insipration of creating Naruto came from Dragon ball :)


ALSO THE REASON WHY HIRUZEN DIDN"T USE MONKEY FUSION WITH MONKEY KING ENMA AGAINST OROCHIMARU FIGHT, is this:

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Hiruzen had small amount of chakra in his old age... Even Enma wonder what is wrong with Hiruzen...

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^^ To think that I would find the Nyoibo to be this heavy...

HIRUZEN KNOW THAT HE CAN"T FUSE WITH MONKEY KING ENMA AS THEY COULD HAVE TO BE EQUAL OR PERFECTLY SYNCHRONIZEED...

That was only possible in past... in his prime age, but this is also possible in his Edo Tensei state as he has rechargeable amount of chakra and he doesn't need to be concerend about his stamina...

CONLCUSION​
  • Hiruzen will reveal his full power soon
  • The greatest power of Hiruzen lays in his summon Moneky King Enma, same as in Japanse legend with monk Xuanzang depending on Su Wukong "Monkey King" as well
  • The greatest state/power up Hiruzen get will be revealed as His Fusion with Monkey King Enma, same as with Kisame fusing with Samehada
  • Kishi didn't forget about Hiruzen and he is not dead lol. His time will come :)

Thanks for reading !

Please share your opinion with me ;)
 
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OMG that sounds fecking awesome. I hope he has a baboons arse.
 

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You're fishing, without a hook. There is no basis for this theory. Just daydreams I'd say.
 

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Why didn't he fuse in part one?

You have it here:

ALSO THE REASON WHY HIRUZEN DIDN"T USE MONKEY FUSION WITH MONKEY KING ENMA AGAINST OROCHIMARU FIGHT, is this:

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Hiruzen had small amount of chakra in his old age... Even Enma wonder what is wrong with Hiruzen...

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^^ To think that I would find the Nyoibo to be this heavy...

HIRUZEN KNOW THAT HE CAN"T FUSE WITH MONKEY KING ENMA AS THEY COULD HAVE TO BE EQUAL OR PERFECTLY SYNCHRONIZEED... but Hiruzen was too weak and could have stamina problem. Besides maybe it took some time to do it and Orochimaru couldn't give me that time.

That was only possible in past... in his prime age, but this is also possible in his Edo Tensei state as he has rechargeable amount of chakra and he doesn't need to be concerend about his stamina...
 

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I once made a theory on how Enma has 72 transformations just like Wukongs staff.
 

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posted the same super saiyan photo in my thread. Glad 2 know some1 being paying attention to me.

It's unlikely tho, as Enma was Hiruzen childhood summon, so it os older than him right now(remember, hiruzen died). They might not be perfectly synched yet. And even if they synched, it would be weaker than prime synch, as they are older
 

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I once made a theory on how Enma has 72 transformations just like Wukongs staff.

Sorry didn't know, I just came up with such idea ;)

posted the same super saiyan photo in my thread. Glad 2 know some1 being paying attention to me.

It's unlikely tho, as Enma was Hiruzen childhood summon, so it os older than him right now(remember, hiruzen died). They might not be perfectly synched yet. And even if they synched, it would be weaker than prime synch, as they are older

True but maybe it would still boost him so we would see how much possible more powerfull Hiruzen was in his prime age...
 

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That would be legit.
 

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I have been thinking about that , it's possible if he is alive , that is -.- . His living old body probably couldn't bear such transformation i guess , that would explain why he didn't use it.
 

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Hello guys I would like to talk about poor Hiruzen... most of the members ignore or forgot.

As we know Hiruzen is able to summon Monkey King Enma, his greatest summon. The Monkey King Enma is based
on Su Wukong... known as "Monkey King". Considering that Kishimoto based creation The Monkey King Enma on Su Wukong, we can speculate about possible new abilities for Hiruzen.



^^ It is stated that "Sun Wukong possesses an immense amount of strength; he is able to lift his 13,500 jīn (8,100 kilograms (18,000 lb)) staff with ease. He is also extremely fast, able to travel 108,000 li (54,000 kilometres (34,000 mi)) in one somersault. Sun knows 72 transformations, which allows him to transform into various animals and objects; he has trouble, however, transforming into other people, because he is unable to complete the transformation of his tail. He is a skilled fighter, capable of holding his own against the best generals of heaven. Each of his hairs possesses magical properties, and is capable of transforming either into a clone of the Monkey King himself, or various weapons, animals, and other objects. He also knows spells that can command wind, part water, conjure protective circles against demons, and freeze humans, demons, and gods alike."

Of course Kishi didn't need to follow it word in word in creation of Monkey King Enma...

But for sure Monkey King Enma possess an imense amount of strength, He is fast and know a lot of transformation as only two were revealed to us. First in transformation in adamantine staff:

You must be registered for see images


Second one is:

You must be registered for see images


^^ Cage which protect him against Hashirama's wood release

Interesting fact is that Su Wukong had to protect defenceless monk Xuanzang. Of course Hiruzen is not defenceless... but Su Wukong protected this monk and finally fused with Xuanzang accomplishing his mission to always protect that monk.

This is article about that monk for interested:

What if Hiruzen the greatest power up is fusion with Monkey King Enma... we know that this could be possible as Kisame already fused with his sword Samehada:

You must be registered for see images


^^ Kisame wasn't weak either but his strength and full power lays in his Sword Samehada

You must be registered for see images


^^ This Master from Enka spoted it right away that The Sword was main stregth of Kisame...

You must be registered for see images


You must be registered for see images


^^ This is what Kisame became after fusion

Interesting Similarity I noticed is that Kisame uses his Samehada Sword in every batttle... samw with Hiruzen summoning Enma to help in every battle. Considence, maybe but it could brings us to interesting conclusion ;)

THIS IS HOW HIRUZEN FUSION WITH MONKEY KING ENMA COULD LOOK LIKE:

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images


^^ This is very possible as Kishi's great insipration of creating Naruto came from Dragon ball :)


ALSO THE REASON WHY HIRUZEN DIDN"T USE MONKEY FUSION WITH MONKEY KING ENMA AGAINST OROCHIMARU FIGHT, is this:

You must be registered for see images


Hiruzen had small amount of chakra in his old age... Even Enma wonder what is wrong with Hiruzen...

You must be registered for see images


^^ To think that I would find the Nyoibo to be this heavy...

HIRUZEN KNOW THAT HE CAN"T FUSE WITH MONKEY KING ENMA AS THEY COULD HAVE TO BE EQUAL OR PERFECTLY SYNCHRONIZEED...

That was only possible in past... in his prime age, but this is also possible in his Edo Tensei state as he has rechargeable amount of chakra and he doesn't need to be concerend about his stamina...

CONLCUSION​
  • Hiruzen will reveal his full power soon
  • The greatest power of Hiruzen lays in his summon Moneky King Enma, same as in Japanse legend with monk Xuanzang depending on Su Wukong "Monkey King" as well
  • The greatest state/power up Hiruzen get will be revealed as His Fusion with Monkey King Enma, same as with Kisame fusing with Samehada
  • Kishi didn't forget about Hiruzen and he is not dead lol. His time will come :)

Thanks for reading !

Please share your opinion with me ;)

It'd be great if this happens. He'd be able to pull his own weight around.
 

KCMNaruto

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It'd be great if this happens. He'd be able to pull his own weight around.

^^ exactly ;), that be original and unique power up

not something like Sage mode to make it even more cheap...

or any other stupid power ups
 
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