[Theory] Great Shinobi Villages Plotting against the Leaf

[HiddenStone]

A few changes from the original thread

The Village Hidden behind the Leaf has always been the Village from where strong shinobi have come. Orochimaru, Jiraiya, the Hyuuga Clan, Uchiha Clan, Nara Clan etc
An endless number of Clans that inhabit the village and continue to increase the power of the Village. Even 8 of the Bijuu [Excluding Shukaku] lived within the village, under Hashirama's control and were later on sold to the other Kage

When you're so strong, there is a high possibility that all your neighbors would group up with each other against you instead of becoming a satellite state of yours and this has always been the case of Konohagakure.
The other 4 villages have always been in a secret alliance in their attempt to undermine Konohagakure until the recent war
I'll explain

Note: No mention of Minato's era due to not of much important​

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During the era of the first Hokage, Hashirama; Konohagakure was a superpower. The Senju and Uchiha Clans had formed an alliance and also possessed upto 8 Bijuu whilst the other villages were still trying to unite their people and gain a Bijuu. One might wonder
"Why would they give away the Bijuu like that? Why not keep it with themselves and recieve tribute from other villages by threatening them with war?"
There is a high possibility that the other 4 villages had put a lot of pressure on Konohagakure to do so and had threatened Konoha with war from all sides. The Senju Clan not wanting yet another war, decided to sign a pact in which Konohagakure would be paid in return of Bijuu and thus as a result of this Konoha's power drastically weakened. This decision was probably also made because Hashirama Senju and Uchiha Madara were the only two ninja who could control Bijuu and both were from Konoha thus Hashirama came to the conclusion that it would a long time before the other villages would be able to awaken the true powers of the Bijuu. The decision was probably a smartly planned one because of all villages, only Kumogakure and for a short while Kirigakure managed to master controlling a Bijuu
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During the era of Tobirama, Konohagakure was probably at it's top. The Konoha Military Police Force had been formed and a series of new jutsu to be had developed which consisted of the Kage Bunshin no Jutsu, Edo Tensei no Jutsu, Hiraishin no Jutsu and many more. Fearing Konohagakure's rise to power once again, Kumogakure and Iwagakure started to plot against Konoha. It is likely that during this time, Kirigakure was an ally of Konoha.
We already know that the shinobi of Kumogakure have always been in search of Kinjutsu and powerful techniques. It is possible that Kumogakure sought to acquire the new techniques developed by Tobirama but did not know how to do so.
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Kumogakure attempted to capture the Kyuubi to strengthen it's power as it seemed impossible for its Ninja to find out about Tobirama's techniques. Kinkaku and Ginkaku, two descendants of the SO6P were given the task of capturing the Kyuubi and granted the treasured tools of the SO6P to complete this task. You have probably realized by now how much they were trusted since they were given the SO6P's tools. In the end, they were swallowed by the Kyuubi instead but by feeding on the Kyuubi's flesh; they were able to gain a new power and returned to Kumogakure safe.
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The Raikage delighted at the new power he had gained attempted to befriend Konohagakure, but his plan was simple. Severely injure the Hokage and gain access to the techniques. When Tobirama visited Kumogakure, Kinkaku and Ginkaku attacked both the Raikage and Hokage and made it seem like it was a coup d'etat. Their main target however was Tobirama and in the battle against the 2nd Hokage, they left Tobirama near to the brink of death.
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Tobirama probably escaped using Hiraishin no Jutsu and realizing the blunder they had made, Kumogakure declared war on Konoha. At the very same time or maybe a bit earlier, Iwagakure had declared war on Kirigakure to get rid of the pro - Konoha 2nd Mizukage. War lasted between Iwa and Kiri which in the end resulted in the deaths of both of their Kage. There is a major possibility that the 3rd Mizukage [Like the 4th Mizukage], was manipulated with Genjutsu by Uchiha Madara.
Anyways, a war lasted between Konohagakure and Kumogakure [The First Shinobi War] which in the end resulted in the death of the 2nd Hokage by the KINKAKU Squad. Severely weakened by the war and the death of the 2nd Raikage sometime later, Kumogakure did not participate in the 2nd Shinobi War

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Exactly 20 years after the Hiruzen Sarutobi becoming the 3rd Hokage, the 2nd Shinobi War begin. The death of the Hokage was a surprise to Sunagakure and Iwagakure who had not expected the Hokage to get killed so easily and started their own plans to invade Konohagakure. Iwagakure also had felt that it needed to take revenge from Konoha for Madara Uchiha's attack on Mu and Onoki. Iwagakure had previously felt it was not strong enough but now the Tsuchikage was sure they could defeat Konoha.
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This is the best explanation as to why Iwagakure never declared war on Konohagakure exactly after the incident had occurred. The war probably started after either Sunagakure or Iwagakure invaded Konohagakure via Amegakure. It is generally believed that Amegakure supported Iwagakure during the war considering the atrocities committed by the Konoha ninja against the people of Amegakure and the battle between Hanzo and the Three Sannin.
The war ended in a somewhat stalemate and a peace treaty was signed. Following this, Amegakure under Hanzo started a mass militarization process to make sure such destruction does not befall his village again
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Iwagakure however had not had enough and wanted to defeat Konoha. In Suna, The 2nd Kazekage probably passed away after the war and a 3rd Kazekage was elected. During the era of the 3rd Kazekage, Sunagakure begin to a adopt militaristic attitude as it sought to gain the powers of a Bijuu through a Jinchuuriki to crush Konoha.
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Following attacks on Konoha by Iwagakure and the outbreak of war, Sunagakure quickly sided itself with Iwagakure. Kirigakure too joined the Iwa-Suna-Kiri alliance in an attempt to crush Konoha. Kumogakure did not seem interested in the war considering the fact that it did not send any shinobi. Iwagakure continued to push the 3rd Raikage to enter the war and then declared war on Kumogakure intself led to a great battle in which the Raikage was killed.
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In the anime version, you can clearly see that the clothes worn by the shinobi are just like those worn by Kirigakure and Iwagakure shinobi. A few people within Kumogakure were probably against Kumo not participating in the war and after the death of the 3rd Raikage, Kumogakure declared war on Konoha. Now, Sunagakure, Kumogakure, Iwagakure and Kirigakure were all at war with Konoha as they sought to destroy Konoha once and for all although unlike Iwa, Suna and Kiri; Kumogakure had only entered the war to gain powerful techniques and occasionally attacked Iwagakure as well.
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A and Killer B later on fought against Minato Namikaze during the war which proved that Kumogakure sought no type of alliance with Konoha. This picture shows that mans were also made to abduct Kushina
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Large scale battles were fought between Iwagakure and Konohagakure. Kirigakure had the Sanbi sealed within a Konoha shinobi, Rin and planned on having the Sanbi released inside Konohagakure to completely destroy the village
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It is also possible that Uzushiogakure, an ally of Konoha was attacked by Kirigakure under the 3rd Mizukage. It was probably Kirigakure's aim to get rid of one of Konoha's ally and completely encircle the nation. There is a possibility that this was done to get rid of the Uzumaki and thus prevent a Konoha from gaining a suitable host for the Kyuubi
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The war finally ended and a peace treaty was signed. A Head Ninja was sent from Kumogakure to sign the peace treaty. The Head Ninja secretly sought to kidnap a Hyuuga to gain the Byalugan but failed and was killed by Hiashi Hyuuga. Kumogakure denied having done so and requested Hiashi's body as compensation for the death of their Head Ninja. Konohagakure not wanting another war accepted the offer, although in the end Hizashi Hyuuga was sent
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It seems that after the 3rd Shinobi War, Iwagakure, Kumogakure and Kirigakure had all either come to the conclusion that Konoha was no longer in any position to hold any major threat to them and after the disastrous war, the villages wanted peace. This did not seem to be the case with Sunagakure. It continued to remain a barren desert from where no crops could be grown and had to depend on Konohagakure for the supply of food. The Kazekage met with Orochimaru at some point and they both agreed on a plan to assassinate the 3rd Hokage and invade Konohagakure from the North and West by using the Chuunin Exams as an excuse to send the Shukaku's Jinchuuriki in Konoha. According to Ay, it was the Kazekage himself who had initially requested help from Orochimaru. In the end, both the 4th Kazekage and the 3rd Hokage were killed.
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During Tsunade's era, everything slow and gradually begun to change. Iwagakure had crippled after the 2nd and 3rd Shinobi War and wanted an end to all the war. It wanted disarmament instead of further bloodshed by fighting. Iwagakure had probably also realized by now that Konoha no longer was strong enough to bring the other 4 shinobi villages under its grisp and realized that isolating Konoha was the best option possible.
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Following the death of the 4th Kazekage, and Gaara's rise to power; enmity in Sunagakure towards Konohagakure finally ended. Sunagakure and Konohagakure started to form friendlier relationships which showed that cracks had started to appear within the nations opposed to Konoha. The bond between Konoha and Suna was clearly shown when Konoha was the first village to be informed of the Kazekage's abduction and the first village to be requested to send help
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Iwagakure, Kirigakure and Kumogakure were probably annoyed by this and this is probably the reason why no one from Kumogakure/Kirigakure or Iwagakure was sent to Suna regarding the Kazekage's capture. The Raikage/Mizukage and Tsuchikage even ignored numerous calls by the Kazekage for a Kage Summit. The 4th Mizukage was overthrown around the same time, bringing an end to Obito's rule in Kirigakure

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Konohagakure remained under Danzo's control for a very short while but the distrust towards Konoha could be easily seen at the Kage Summit. By now, all of the 5 Great Shinobi Villages were independent and not in any alliance with another village. Iwagakure followed a policy of disarmament and peace whilst Kirigakure wanted to change it's image as the Bloody Mist and wanted friendly relationship with each other. The opposition to Konohagakure had virtually collapsed although the Anti - Konoha attitude still lived within many. Ao, a top shinobi under the 4th Mizukage [Another Anti - Konoha] felt it very strange that the Hokage was being chosen as the Head of the Shinobi Allied Forces and used the Byakugan to find out whether a jutsu was being used
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The Raikage too was opposed to Konoha being allowed to be given the seat. The Kazekage, Tsuchikage and Mizukage however no longer controlled by hatred towards Konoha, did not care though.
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Following the start of the 4th Shinobi War, the shinobi villages were more or less united. But seriously... can we ignore the past?

 

[HiddenStone]

A really long thread so I don't think most of you would read it >_>

 

[Naijakid]

TL;DR......sorry

 

[thepizzaguy]

Gaara's speech already addressed the elephant in the room. And other nations were @ war with other nations not just konoha. The main enemy konaha had was civil I.e orochimaru or the uchiha clan, hashirama vs madara. The main external enemy konoha was akatsuki and they were only after the 9 tails. But hang on they were all manipulated by people of the leaf I.e obito+madara. So the main enemy of the leaf was the leaf itself. Other villages were actual also manipulated by the leaf I.e danzo, obito or whoever it was that put a miukage under genjutsu.

 

[HiddenStone]

Seems like making a really long thread came back to bite me.

No one is reading it ._.

 

[YellowFang]

Since the enemy is common and a fatal threat to every single one of the Shinobi world...
1- They had to unite...
2- This unison will prevail longer because Naruto and Sasuke will end the war in a fashion that will demonstrate faith in one another...

 

[kinkakuforce]

Done reading, great thread!

 

[assface3]

I hope they all come together to bring Konoha down to size a bit.

 

[avenged sevenfold]

After pains attack on the leaf, the hidden cloud became the most powerful village then the hidden rock then I think but im not sure that the hidden mist and hidden sand are tied

 

[ssjsage]

That took a while but very good thread

 

[Tobi98]

Kishi made the Villages stats and Kumo is better then Konoha at everything, including strenght, not saying they could beat Konoha as Guy would **** them up with 8 gates

 

[Monkeysageof6paths]

great thread.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Very interesting

 

[Bimbonium]

Great thread.

 

[HairyTesicles]

great read ty

 

[HiddenStone]

great thread.

Very interesting

Great thread.

great read ty

Thank you.

 

[KingHashirama]

Goood thread, though i disagree with the whole concept. xD Great discussion topic tho!! Finally someone else making political threads.

Though the flaw is Hashirama was feared by everyone, on top of that Sunagakure was going to be attacked by the other 4 during Hashirama's reign.

Also, there were other ninja on the level of the Sanin from other villages, that we do not know of because they have no relevance to the main character.

 

[HiddenStone]

Goood thread, though i disagree with the whole concept. xD Great discussion topic tho!! Finally someone else making political threads.

Though the flaw is Hashirama was feared by everyone, on top of that Sunagakure was going to be attacked by the other 4 during Hashirama's reign.

Also, there were other ninja on the level of the Sanin from other villages, that we do not know of because they have no relevance to the main character.

The Kazekage probably stayed quiet after being threatened with war.
Besides, the First Shinobi War took place after the deaths of the First Kage in almost every Great Village