[Theory]Eye techniques that Sasuke may posses!

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Okay now before I start I'll have to make a few things clear:

1-If you're going to be one of those guys who's going to disagree without even reading or just gonna post "didn't read" and some stupid shit like that then don't even post, just leave.

2-This is just speculation so don't jump my throat, if you disagree with something post a valid point without the need of bashing or any other kind of childish behavior.

3-Please tolerate my bad english.

4-long but easy to read.....I hope
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Le't start with a list of Sasuke's dojutsu that I'm going to talk about:

1-EMS

2-6T Rinnegan

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1-EMS:


Overview:

Most people say that the EMS is just a mere eye transplant process, but I thinks it's an eye fusion.

now this might sound illogical but we've seen much more things that are less believable than two organs fusing so
it's not that crazy.

why I think it's an eye fusion instead of a simple transplant?

1-a 12 years old rin was able to transplant obito's eye and have it work perfectly on kakashi in mere seconds
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while it took obito who's been handling eyes for some time now took him quite some time to do transplant itachi's eyes and he even needed sasuke to rest before he could use them.
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now this is maybe because the eye's need some time to become an EMS on their own, but....

2-Because of these scans I think otherwise:
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as you can see, the demon on those scans appears to posses both the previous eyes and the new ones at the same time and although this isn't the most reliable source of info it's what we have.

this is just what I think so basically the EMS user has both his eyes and the new ones fused together as a new pair.



There's some techniques that I think Sasuke posses after gaining the EMS:

1-Tsukiyomi
2-Sword of Totsuka
3-Yata mirror

let's talk about Sasuke and Itachi's MS abilities first

Sasuke:

Right eye:
1-Genjutsu: Sharingan
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a watered down version of tsukiyomi without the ability to control time inside the jutsu and less paralyzing power.

2-Enton: Kagutsushi
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ability to control and shape the black flames of amaterasu.

Left eye:
Amaterasu
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Ability to create inextinguishable black flames at everything his eye sets on.

Itachi:

Right eye:
Amaterasu
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Ability to create inextinguishable black flames at everything his eye sets on.

Left eye:
Tsukiyomi
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Ability to create a powerful genjutsu where the user can control the victim's perception of time.


Now if we're going by that logic EMS Sasuke should have:

Amaterasu, Kagutsushi and Genjutsu: sharingan on his right eye

Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu on his left eye.

I noticed something about Sasuke's right eye ability "Enton: Kagutsushi" after he gained the EMS.

before he gained the EMS each time he used it he needed existing black flames from amaterasu in order to use it because the technique on it's own is useless.

ever since he gained the EMS he was able to generate black flames without the use of amaterasu which is not something kagutsushi can do since it can only control these flames and not create them:
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meaning That sasuke was most likely using amaterasu with his right eye and itachi was able to use Amaterasu with his right eye so it's possible that he gained access to his MS abilities.

and we've never seen Sasuke use tsukiyomi but there's something close to it:
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you might be thinking that he just used his "rinnegan: genjutsu"
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but I don't think so because that genjutsu works completely different because unlike what he used on sakura it controls the victims not knock them out it's basically a lower scale IT exactly like how amenotejikara is a lower scale amenominaka.


and this may not be enough evidence but even Danzo and Kakashi were able to use the MS abilities of their transplanted MS even though they're not related to the original owners of their respective MS at all, so sasuke who has both his eyes and itachi's should be able to use itachi's MS techniques.

now about the sword of totsuka and the yata mirror, because Sasuke has itachi's eyes he should be able to use itachi's susanoo as well because it's possible for someone to use the susanoo of another person if they have their eyes:
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sasuke's susanoo had:

1-an orb made of black flames that it can generate weapons from like arrows and and swords and looks similar to the sword of totsuka.

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2-a Shield-bow hybird and looks similar to the yata mirror.

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they also seem to be related to the users MS abilities:

for example the sword of totsuka and tsukiyomi both deal with a world of dreams and genjutsu

and in mythology Amaterasu had the yata mirror along with the yasaka magamata.

the same could be said about sasuke's equipment:

his black flames orb could be related to his ability kagutsushi.

and his shield if we assume it's a variant of the yata mirror should be related to his ability amaterasu but since his amaterasu is mainly used as a support for his kagutsushi this could explain the lack of the same abilities itachi's yata mirror had and also explain why sasuke's shield has the bow attached to it in order to support kagutsushi's arrows.

inb4 why he didn't use them:

his EMS was new, not every technique pops up like magic, his rinnegan is a prime example for why he didn't use most of it's techniques.

he needs to master his dojutsu in order for him to draw it's full potential.

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2-6T Rinnegan:

You may not believe this but just read first:

Sasuke should be able to use Limbo: border jail.

now if you think that it's a unique jutsu to madara but you're wrong.

it was never stated to be unique to him it was stated in the manga that it's the true power of the rinnegan and can't be used by a fake or transplanted rinnegan.

and in the DB:

A person who posses the Rinnegan can intervene in an adjacent world, an extremely distance world. In that space a shadow is produced, which everyone who is connected with the current world can't feel. Not only will the jutsu user gain a duplicate of himself with equal ability, but it will also be invisible. Squaring of against a user, counter attack is impossible, going up against this ability will result in one losing against such a powerful enemy

The Rinnegan can shape one shadow. With a complete set of two Rinnegan it can shape 4.

When fighting the enemy in close combat the shadow will stay away. But after a time the shadow will return.


so what we get from both is:

Limbo can only be used by the original owners of the rinnegan, meaning the ones who awakened it:

Hagoromo, Madara and Sasuke.


and you may be saying that by this logic both madara and hagoromo can use amenotejikara but that's false because Sasuke's rinnegan is the unique one here.

I don't know about hagoromo since he gave him that rinnegan but madara does not posses amenotejikara and Rinnegan: Genjutsu because those techniques are unique to his hybird rinnegan which are supposed to be waterd down versions of the the rinne sharingan's jutsus:

Amenominaka=Amenotejikara

Mugen Tsukiyomi = Genjutsu: Rinnegan


also I'd like to note that the relation between MT and Genjutsu: rinnegan is quite the same as the relation between Tsukiyomi and Genjutu: Sharingan.

What do you think?
 

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I disagree with him having the mirror & sword. If he did he'd have pulled it out by now after seeing how far he's developed & how powerful he's gone with his eyes.
Infusion I'd agree as a theory--he still has the arrow from his MS so that makes sense.

I did read but not entirely. I have to crash now for 3rd shift, :-/
 

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I respectfully disagree with you.

1.EMS
Sasuke didnt gain Totsuka and Yata mirror by implanting EMS.Every MS has its own unique ability.EMS is just an advancement of MS.
EMS has the ability to stop blindness.Only thing which EMS gives to its user is Perfect Susanoo.

To be honest, Sasuke had achieved much better thing than that Totsuka and Yata mirror which is PS.

Totsuka and Yata mirror were just for hype just like Prime hiruzen.

2. Rinnegan
Just like MS, Every Rinnegan has its own ability, Madara had Limbo ability while sasuke has S/T. There is no way sasuke can use Limbo just like he cant use Kamui and Koto Amatsukomi


Nice effort though
 
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I read through it and I disagree, I believe yata and totsula swords are about as unique to itachi as sasuke's Enton susano orb. Each Susano is unique to it's user,Itachi's susano has totsuka and yata, sasuke's has Ameterasu orb, Madara's has...a blade? But the rest I do agree with.

Another to note is that the rinnegan sasuke has retains his sharnningan abilities but it should be of a greater scale. Sharnningan genjutsu through the Tomoe rinnegan is rinnegan genjutsu. Sasuke has also been either copying other rinnegan techniques or feeling out his own. For example, cordless CT was derived from Six paths:Chibaku tensei, which was coreless to seal kaguya. So one can infer the rinne sharnningan is the rinnegan that can use nearly any technique as now sasuke has all basic elements plus yin-yang release, if he masters this he would be able to use more advanced techs like lava release. People will say it's kekkei genkai but they forget that kekkei touta like dust release was passed down and the only reason that techs like lava release are KKG is because it's extremely hard to mix two elements perfectly together. Wood release is just a combination of water and earth release but you need to be able to perfectly mix these elemts together as yammato said which is why only hashi had it so far in his time.




It's a stretch but the Tomoe rinnegan could be able to copy other MS or rinnegan techniques as it is an eye passed from hagoromo with influence of indra's Chakra, so it isn't a huge stretch. But it's all in theory.
 

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I read through it and I disagree, I believe yata and totsula swords are about as unique to itachi as sasuke's Enton susano orb. Each Susano is unique to it's user,Itachi's susano has totsuka and yata, sasuke's has Ameterasu orb, Madara's has...a blade? But the rest I do agree with.

Another to note is that the rinnegan sasuke has retains his sharnningan abilities but it should be of a greater scale. Sharnningan genjutsu through the Tomoe rinnegan is rinnegan genjutsu. Sasuke has also been either copying other rinnegan techniques or feeling out his own. For example, cordless CT was derived from Six paths:Chibaku tensei, which was coreless to seal kaguya. So one can infer the rinne sharnningan is the rinnegan that can use nearly any technique as now sasuke has all basic elements plus yin-yang release, if he masters this he would be able to use more advanced techs like lava release. People will say it's kekkei genkai but they forget that kekkei touta like dust release was passed down and the only reason that techs like lava release are KKG is because it's extremely hard to mix two elements perfectly together. Wood release is just a combination of water and earth release but you need to be able to perfectly mix these elemts together as yammato said which is why only hashi had it so far in his time.




It's a stretch but the Tomoe rinnegan could be able to copy other MS or rinnegan techniques as it is an eye passed from hagoromo with influence of indra's Chakra, so it isn't a huge stretch. But it's all in theory.
@bold What the fck with this shit?

you have a poor knowledge of naruto thats why you rely on fanfics instead of manga facts.
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KKG cant be copied even with juubi eye which Kaguya had.

Currently naruto is the only one who has access to all KKGs as well as all elements because of Bijuus and RSM.
 

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Mugen Tsukiyomi = Genjutsu: Rinnegan
Mugen tsukiyomi is casted from the third eye
A person who posses the Rinnegan can intervene in an adjacent world, an extremely distance world. In that space a shadow is produced, which everyone who is connected with the current world can't feel. Not only will the jutsu user gain a duplicate of himself with equal ability, but it will also be invisible. Squaring of against a user, counter attack is impossible, going up against this ability will result in one losing against such a powerful enemy

The Rinnegan can shape one shadow. With a complete set of two Rinnegan it can shape 4.

When fighting the enemy in close combat the shadow will stay away. But after a time the shadow will return.


Not reaally, cause if we go by what the databook says litteray then shinra tensei and bansho tenin are exclusive to nagato
 

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@bold What the fck with this shit?

you have a poor knowledge of naruto thats why you rely on fanfics instead of manga facts.
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KKG cant be copied even with juubi eye which Kaguya had.

Currently naruto is the only one who has access to all KKGs as well as all elements because of Bijuus and RSM.
Not all KKG's according to your own mangafacts only those born into the specific clan can use kkg
 
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