[Theory/Explanation] Minato has neither BM nor KCM but a mixture of both.

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Why didn't you say that in the beginning? You said I quote
"Borrowed power?

You must be joking."
You made it seem as if I was lying or something.

Yes Naruto, Kakashi, Sasuke all have borrowed power, thought this was common knowledge.


Why is there such a need to debate semantics?
Speaking of semantics, I'd like to point out that this isn't really a theory; it's a hypothesis, seeing as we can't empirically determine its validity. Hence, we are merely left to speculation. This is true of almost all "theories" posted in NB. /end_mini_rant

That aside...
pateuvasiliu, I believe you may be over-analyzing the artwork alone. Nonetheless, your hypothesis on the matter, combined with the Rinn3gan's input in post #57, makes for a compelling argument. I was actually thinking something similar, albeit with less careful consideration of minute details. I must admit that before being influenced by your own ideas on the matter, I had only managed to assert that Minato can manage BM/KCM/whateverthehellitis due to the fact that there is no tailed beast to play tug-of-war with. That's as far as I got. Impressive speculation, good sir.
 
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well the chakra that Minato had in him don't have consciousness, so unlike Naruto he always have access to the chakra.
 

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That aside...
pateuvasiliu, I believe you may be over-analyzing the artwork alone. Nonetheless, your hypothesis on the matter, combined with the Rinn3gan's input in post #57, makes for a compelling argument. I was actually thinking something similar, albeit with less careful consideration of minute details. I must admit that before being influenced by your own ideas on the matter, I had only managed to assert that Minato can manage BM/KCM/whateverthehellitis due to the fact that there is no tailed beast to play tug-of-war with. That's as far as I got. Impressive speculation, good sir.

Thank you.
 

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its Kcm, he has the kyuubis chakra therefore its kyuubi chakra mode
 

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No they are not, apparently you just have a weak memory.
but yea he does just hhappen to be wearing a cloak

As I said 100 times before, look at the first picture and compare it to BM.

The hair spikes, the hand symbols and the collar magatamas are all specific to BM.
 

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Reading post like this make me wonder how fan boy logic works it clearly ichigo mode the ony difference is that its the yin chakra and the location of the use your ****ing jeez simple don't need in depth review it plains day light just get off the fan boy behaviour look at the picture shown
 

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As I said 100 times before, look at the first picture and compare it to BM.

The hair spikes, the hand symbols and the collar magatamas are all specific to BM.

And when naruto attempts the biju ball in chakra mode those markings appeared.

Narutos hair does spike it just his hair is shorter

He does have the magatamas but not coat for it to appear
 

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Reading post like this make me wonder how fan boy logic works it clearly ichigo mode the ony difference is that its the yin chakra and the location of the use your ****ing jeez simple don't need in depth review it plains day light just get off the fan boy behaviour look at the picture shown

How about you get out of my thread if all you can spill is that nonsensical bullsh!t?

Thanks.
 

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As we know, through sheer Fuinjutsu skill Minato achieved what appears to be an either BM or KCM form. However, I believe it is neither, but something inbetween.

Let's take a look at it.



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That's Minato's Kyuubi cloak.

Now let's compare it to KCM and BM.

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similarities with KCM:

- The color pattern
- THe magatama '' necklace '' on his upper torso
- the pattern of the seal and the black line on his torso

Interesting is that whereas Naruto's seal is on his stomach Minato's is on his chest.

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want to point this out to everyone. the SEALS LOCATIONS.

Naruto has the 9 tails fox. the seal was placed at the stomach. look at the above 2 narutos. the circle is at the stomach. why the SEAL.

Minato when he used the demon god seal it pierced through the chest. which sealed the Yang part of the kyuubi. thats why there circle is there at his chest.

now the reason could be why there is a cloak there is because Minato has the "4th Hokage Cloak on him" which makes it look like BM Naruto. and also because of the Yang part that he sealed might also be reacting to his Yin.

not to mention i believe it is because of sealing both of the chakras. he gained the power of both before he died. (possible) good theory
 

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Bijuu Mode has a different pattern on the chest/belly.

Look at the pictures.

It is a combination of both.

you seemed to be confused here...I already explained it in my thread...half of the kyuubi's chakra is with naruto therefore making the other part of the seal, and the other one is with minato therefore making the lower part of the seal...also it symbolizes a "yin yang separation as well..."
 

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Borrowed power?

You must be joking.

Naruto -MAY- have borrowed power, but Minato's is 100% earned. He sealed the Kyuubi by himself. Think of it, bro, Minato is the only Jinchuriki except for the Sage who sealed a bijuu inside himself and managed to take control of its chakra.

He did it through pure skill.



I agree with this...minato did it with pure skill thru sealing jutsus...but somehow in your explanations, there are loopholes in it...to make it complete here's my explanation for you:
 

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Look at some of the art of Naruto KCM mode, he has little horns too. So you can knock that one off the list of similarities. I see the marks on Minato's hands that are like BM. Anyways, I don't think Minato's is BM at all. I think that Naruto's BM has something to do with having the cooperation of ALL of the beasts and pieces from them that are contributing to him achieving BM. Minato doesn't have that, he only has ninetails chakra. But since Naruto gained Kurama's cooperation at the same time that he also achieved his new mode, I can't prove one or the other caused it for sure.
 

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umm
i agree..
but theres still something you missed my good sir..
naruto also has a spike hair in kcm.. look at the manga.. dont look at the anime.. you wont find it.
anime makes it sucks..
actually naruto has both spikes in both category.. kcm n bm

but what i think after i read this new chapter + this hypothesis i find it odd..
whats the gift minato wants to give to naruto?? is it the yin chakra of kurama??
or the gift is this surprise?? or what?? its odd my man. lol.
 
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