Theory about the SO6P's origins and the Rinnegan

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My Theory and the theory shared by many others is that the SO6P was an Uzumaki and his wife was a Hyuuga. This is how I think he got his Rinnegan and tamed the Juubi.

I know there's heaps of threads about what bloodline the Sage is from and I've only read like 2 so sorry if I end up repeating some concepts that you've already read about but bear with me :)

In the time of war that the sage lived in, which the Juubi also lived and roamed free in he wanted to attain peace. His wife too sought this peace. She was a heaps cool chick and gave him her eyes which he didn’t want her to do but she insisted. Due to lack of medical knowledge back then she died, this trauma thus awakening the Sage’s Rinnegan. Using his newly found powers, he created everything like jutsu and sealing and became the Jinchuurichi of the Juubi. With the power of the Rinnegan he revived his wife. He didn’t die from reviving her because it was only one person and I’m pretty sure Nagato only dies because he revived basically the entire leaf village when he was already exhausted from fighting Naruto. They then had children while he was still a Jinchurichi, the elder son who inherited the Sages eyes (Uchiha ancestor) and the younger son who inherited the Sages body (Senju ancestor). I believe he had red hair like Nagato that turned white after splitting the Juubi into the Bijuu (a massive exertion that changes his hair like when Nagato revived all those people). He passed on his strongest sealing techniques to his family, the uzumaki clan, with the children gaining hereditary physical attributes, as well as the yin and yang parts of the Juubi (allbeit accidently)

Edit: I now actually think that the Rinnegan came about after the SO6P sealed the Juubi within himself. I think that after the Sage gets his Wife's Byakuugan he discovers Sage mode (I say this because I don't think a Byakuugan alone would be enough to beat the Juubi) and then takes on the Juubi. Byakuugan and Sage mode would be sufficient to take down the 10 tails, but at this time the Uzumaki sealing tools might've been around and the use of those could have aided him, if not the SO6P would've still won
(This seems really far fetched compared to what my original theory was but its not outside the realm of possiblity)

Its known that the Uzumaki and distant relatives of the Senju which most people interpret as the Uzumaki blood being a dilute form of the Senju, but this is not the case. On the contrary, the Senju are derived from the Uzumaki. The Uzumaki can also be called the distant relative of the Uchiha, which holds more truth as the dominant gene in them is the Hyuuga’s.

The younger son (Senju) gained the Sages body. This is that he gained the body of the Uzumaki and well as a portion of the Juubis immense chakra and strength (yang chakra). I think this because of the fact the Senju so far are seen as stronger than the Uzumaki as seen by Hashirama’s ability to rouse his chakra and basically destroy a room, an ability Naruto is not yet seen doing in BM let alone is his base form. This also explains why no Senju have become Jinchuurichi as strong life force is the dominant trait of the Uzumaki family, and conversely it explains why the Senju are seemingly stronger than the Uzumaki, as demonstrated in the comparison between Hashirama and Naruto.

The spiral pattern of the elder sons eyes are due to the interaction between the Sages sealing technique on the Juubi’s eyes (yang chakra) (an idea I got from Sir Derp Obito) and his Rinnegan eyes -which were attained through his wifes Byakuugan. As the Juubi’s influence on the world faded, the seal too faded but the special chakra stayed, thus forming the Sharingan. This compensates for the fact that the Sharingan is a mutation of the Byakuugan as stated by Kakashi. Edit: The older brother's spiral pattern is in the middle of the eye like the Byakuugan unlike with the Rinnegan which covers the whole eye.

In summary, the younger son was Uzumaki dominant and possessed a portion (maybe a lot? His strength is unknown) of the Juubi’s yang chakra and the older son was Hyuuga dominant and possessed the Juubi’s yin chakra that manifested as a sealed version of the Juubi’s eye that would later become the Sharingan. Uzumaki+Juubi Yang=Younger Brother, Hyuuga+Juubi Yin=Older Brother. Also, adding to this, the natural disappearance of the spiral pattern of the Older Brother to reveal the Sharingan was probably sped up due to the hatred he felt from not becoming successor.

This leads me to my next theory that a Rinnegan can be achieved with the Byakuugan and Uzumaki DNA. If a pure blooded Senju is close to an Uzumaki then what is a pure blooded Uchiha closest to? A hyuuga, the originators of the byakuugan.

The idea that to awaken the Rinnegan you need both Senju and Uchiha DNA is well known. Its also inferred that the Rinnegan can be unlocked at an old age, as its stated that Madara awakens it “at the end of his natural lifespan”. I think that Madara awakened it, realising he was almost dead, took them out of his eye sockets upon which they returned to EMS because they’re away from Senju DNA, implanted them in Nagato as dormant EMS’s awaiting a trauma to activate them. Its also well known that the next stage of EMS is the Rinnegan and for it to progress there you need Senju DNA. But Nagato is an Uzumaki so how is this possible? Because the uzumaki are the originators of the Senju bloodline.

To awaken the Rinnegan no ordinary Sharingan can be used, or at least that’s what I gather from current events in the manga, it has to be EMS, or at the very least MS (because Obito has it and I don’t think you can just straight up implant an awakened Rinnegan into just anyone). Therefore, this tells us that only those with pure forms of Uchiha DNA can awaken the rinnegan. Pure maybe isn’t the most appropriate word, I mean it in the sense that only the best, closely related to the ancestor Uchiha will awaken the MS/EMS. And what is the purest form of Uchiha DNA? The Hyuuga.

Similarly, to awaken the Rinnegan no ordinary Senju DNA can be used, it has to be of high purity, ie, as close to Uzumaki DNA as possible. Whether it was a guess or whether Madara knew this is unknown, but I think that Madara sought Hashiramas DNA rather than any other Senju because he was closest to the ancestor Senju, ie the strongest Senju and therefore closest to the Uzumaki Sage than anyone else in his clan. His prowess is demonstrated by his “rousing” of chakra where he nearly tears a room apart by hardly moving. Knowing this, we can infer that infact its Uzumaki DNA+Hyuuga DNA to make the Rinnegan.

Ie. Byakuugan+uzumaki dna>Rinnegan>seal+juubi eye>elder sons spiral eye>sharingan.
This leads me to think that
- Uzumaki + Hyuuga = Rinnegan similar if not identical to the Sages Rinnegan
- Uzumaki + MS/EMS (ie peak Uchiha DNA-high purity Hyuuga DNA) = Imperfect Rinnegan
- Hyuuga + Senju (ie peak Senju DNA-high purity Uzumaki DNA) = Imperfect Rinnegan
- Uzumaki + Basic Sharingan does not make a Rinnegan
- Senju + Basic Sharingan does not make a Rinnegan (duh)

So theoretically: Sage of 6 Paths > Madara (Rinnegan #2) > Nagato (Rinnegan #3) > Obito (Rinnegan #4)
However, in reality this is not the case as other factors are at play, ie the persons battle experience, specific abilities, knowledge of opponents abilities etc. Having said this the sage is still #1.

Further Edit: I'm pretty sure that Obito only has MS so that's why his Rinnegan is #4 instead of equal #2 with Madara. I also switched Madara and Nagato around because previously I wasn't fully taking into account the effect Juubi chakra has on awakening the Rinnegan
This is just my theory about the Sage’s origins and his Rinnegan.
Tell me what you think and any feedback will be appreciated!

Note that in my little Rinnegan equation chart thing Uzumaki and Hyuuga only works in the presence of a large amount of Bijuu chakra, and that the reason why Senju+Uchiha works is because the Kekkei Genkai of both these clans (Mokuton and Sharingan) is derived from the Juubi. Uzumaki+Uchiha works because of the pure Uzumaki body interacting with the peak Uchiha DNA ie high concentrate Juubi chakra).

In order of Rinnegan strength:
1. Uzumaki + Hyuuga + All Bijuu Chakra = Near perfect if not perfect Rinnegan like the SO6P
2: Senju + Uchiha (close to original Uzumaki and Hyuuga genes with a small concentration of Juubi Charka)
3. Uzumaki + MS/EMS (peak body but low concentration of Juubi chakra)
3. Senju + Byakuugan (peak eyes but low concentration of Juubi chakra)
No I didn't forget a number its just it is it tie for 3rd place.

Sorry about the wall of text, and thanks alot if you read the whole thing :)
 
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well, sometimes I like to imagine that the so6p had an uzumaki dad and hyuuga mum and that the rinnegan is from the juubi. he attained the rinnegan wen he became the juubi jin, considering the fact that the properties of bijuu normally rubs off on their jinchuriki.
Just my own theory
 

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well, sometimes I like to imagine that the so6p had an uzumaki dad and hyuuga mum and that the rinnegan is from the juubi. he attained the rinnegan wen he became the juubi jin, considering the fact that the properties of bijuu normally rubs off on their jinchuriki.
Just my own theory
Yeah I think that could be a possiblity as well. But if he didn't have the Rinnegan how was he able to fight it and eventually defeat it because I can't really see the Byakuugan being enough to beat the 10 tails. Also I agree that the Juubi would've had an effect on his eyes, probs making them stronger than they were.
 

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Interesting theory, I am now salivating at the prospect of Kishi revealing all.... eventually hahaha maybe after Naruto comes to an endhe'll do a movie just about the SO6P and his origins :D now that would be awesome!
 

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Interesting theory, I am now salivating at the prospect of Kishi revealing all.... eventually hahaha maybe after Naruto comes to an endhe'll do a movie just about the SO6P and his origins :D now that would be awesome!
On topic: Glad you thought that :)

Off Topic: Yessss that'd be amazing, I'm already keen enough on road to ninja as is!
 

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Welcome to the base kid!!! Nice theory too. Finally somebody explains wth the hyuuga clan came from. Other theories only focused on senju & Uchiha. + rep
 
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