Theory about Orochimaru's senjutsu

[Sennin of Logic]

Considering all the SM Minato vs Orochimaru/Kabuto threads, it got me thinking.

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So Orochimaru was an imperfect sage or not one at all. Yet, here's the contradiction. Orochimaru couldn't be a sage and hasn't displayed sage abilities, yet curse mark is his senjutsu chakra. Jiraya, an imperfect sage, had a 5 in stamina while Orochimaru had a 3.5, which is far less significant. So what senjutsu does he have? I think this might explain things.

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Ok, look at how much he looks like a toad, and that's considered impressive. Jiraya was highly respected as a sage by fukasaku. So what does that make Orochimaru, who was stated to not be able to master it and had lower reserves than Jiraya? Answer: This.

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I think that given that Jirya had a lot of toad characteristics and was considered great, that Orochimaru, who was considered pretty bad at it, would look even more like a snake than Jiraya looks like a toad. So Orochimaru's "white snake form" may very well be his sage mode. This would explain things.

Due to low reserves, Orochimaru couldn't become a sage. What this means that when he attempted to do so, he was always brought on death's door. The last step to becoming a statue. Also, it could be that Orochimaru constantly needs to switch bodies because the unbalanced senjutsu destroys his body. Your thoughts?

 

[Mypower]

Possibly, but Oro said he made many modifications to his body.
I like the theory nice POV

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Possibly, but Oro said he made many modifications to his body.
I like the theory nice POV

Thanks. Those modifications could have been Juugo's enzymes for a perpetual sage mode.

 

[Young Vongola]

I could have sworn Kabuto referred to this during his fight against Sasuke and Itachi?

Edit: opened the first spoiler. Skipped it before I posted for some reason. He was definitely referring to Oro's White Snake thing. Like you said, Oro tried to learn, but his body couldn't handle it. That's why people speculated that since he now has a Zetsu body he should be able to use SSM/DSM because he has a better body.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I could have sworn Kabuto referred to this during his fight against Sasuke and Itachi?

The fact that Orochimaru tried to learn senjutsu, or Orochimaru's white snake form being SM? Because if the former, definitely.

 

[slaton02]

That's what I thought.

 

[Joker]

Where was it stated Orochimaru had lower reserves? I mean doesn't he spam high-class chakra summonings? Plus i'm pretty sure that was a result of him experimenting on his body so when he's sick, it's more helpful.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Where was it stated Orochimaru had lower reserves? I mean doesn't he spam high-class chakra summonings? Plus i'm pretty sure that was a result of him experimenting on his body so when he's sick, it's more helpful.

In the OP, it said he lacked the body to learn senjutsu, in other words, reserves not good enough. I don't think he has spammed summons other than the small ones like striking shadow snake. Databook's only stats for Orochimaru had him at a 3.5.

 

[Joker]

In the OP, it said he lacked the body to learn senjutsu, in other words, reserves not good enough. I don't think he has spammed summons other than the small ones like striking shadow snake. Databook's only stats for Orochimaru had him at a 3.5.

No, he had the ability to gather nature energy which takes large reserves, his body just can't handle it. It's similar with Itachi to be honest.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

No, he had the ability to gather nature energy which takes large reserves, his body just can't handle it. It's similar with Itachi to be honest.

No, it doesn't take large reserves to absorb natural energy. It takes large reserves to absorb natural energy and not get taken over immediately.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I don't see it. Orochimaru doesn't really have low reserves, he has a notable chakra tank.

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His White Snake Form is the result of searching for immortality, I think it was more or less that he couldn't manifest the Senjutsu himself without fear of, well, turning into something similar to that of the stone toads.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I don't see it. Orochimaru doesn't really have low reserves, he has a notable chakra tank.

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His White Snake Form is the result of searching for immortality, I think it was more or less that he couldn't manifest the Senjutsu himself without fear of, well, turning into something similar to that of the stone toads.

I don't see what that databook page has to do with reserves. I never said Orochimaru had low reserves, just not enough to learn senjutsu adequately, which is a manga fact. His reserves are on Sasuke's level according to the databook. They're not low, but they're not fantastic either.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I don't see what that databook page has to do with reserves. I never said Orochimaru had low reserves, just not enough to learn senjutsu adequately, which is a manga fact. His reserves are on Sasuke's level according to the databook. They're not low, but they're not fantastic either.

Due to low reserves, Orochimaru couldn't become a sage.

I saw that and just wanted to clear it up; And could I see the databook page that says they have the same size reserves? Because Orochimaru during his battle against the possessed Naruto has shown to be above anything other then EMS Sasuke. Unless you're speaking on EMS Sauce, then my bad.... >_>

 

[Penguin]

Orochimaru has chakra for days. Lmfao.

His body just cannot take it due to all the experiments or the physical body of his was deteriorating.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I saw that and just wanted to clear it up; And could I see the databook page that says they have the same size reserves? Because Orochimaru during his battle against the possessed Naruto has shown to be above anything other then EMS Sasuke. Unless you're speaking on EMS Sauce, then my bad.... >_>

Whoops. Should have said inadequate. I don't have databook pages, but I have Naruto wiki that directly gives databook stats. This is from the 3rd databook.

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