Theirs a diffrence between Sasuke and Danzo

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Ninjas kill all the time. The Leaf didn't hesitate to annihilate the Uchiha and yet it's wrong for Sasuke to kill the ranks that can't make a change?


The kages have made stupid decisions and most of them are idiots. Hiruzen, Ay, Mei, Tsuande? Who are these people? Noobs who can't even run a world.
I don't understand your logic, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Sasuke aid to the Juubi's revival and now you're trying to justify him killing to be right? I call bullshit
 

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Imma just throw this out there
i don't believe that Sasuke should kill the Gokage, but i do believe he should take them out of power, plus they should be a little grateful sense Sasuke saved them
 

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Who says they would know the truth?

Sasuke could easily say that it was Madara who killed them all, and that he killed Madara while he was in a moment of weakness. They would have to accept that as fact because they have no evidence to prove otherwise.

Yeah because everyone won't that Naruto is dead (if Sasuke were to win) and they won't notice the fact that Sasuke would declare himself the new leader and that the Gokage were dead. Makes plenty of sense
 

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When did I say he did? But he is just about to do that, and wanted to do that before as well.

When did I say Naruto KILLED a person? I only said that they either get a TNJ session or a Rasengan up the booty. Rasengan has only killed one person in the series thus far, and it was a complete fodder posing as Itachi. Everyone else gets heavily TNJ'd into submission until the convert to Naruto's way, "right" way.
 

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When did I say Naruto KILLED a person? I only said that they either get a TNJ session or a Rasengan up the booty. Rasengan has only killed one person in the series thus far, and it was a complete fodder posing as Itachi. Everyone else gets heavily TNJ'd into submission until the convert to Naruto's way, "right" way.

So you are saying violence is better than talk? Okay.
 

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I don't understand his reasoning.
According to Sasuke, the 5 Kage should die because they have made mistakes in the past that lead to a darker ninja world.
Meanwhile, Sasuke could be considered a terrorist and the main reason that the Juubi was revived due to his partnership with the Akatsuki. At the very most, he should put the Gokage in jail.
 

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i don't believe that Sasuke should kill the Gokage, but i do believe he should take them out of power, plus they should be a little grateful sense Sasuke saved them

If we want to be technical, the sage saved everyone. Sasuke still has hatred in his heart, he is no position to be leading anyone
 

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Yeah because everyone won't that Naruto is dead (if Sasuke were to win) and they won't notice the fact that Sasuke would declare himself the new leader and that the Gokage were dead. Makes plenty of sense

@red As I said, he could claim that Madara killed him.

@rest Easy, "Madara began killing people off after IT was put into motion, revealing his true plans" or "I tried to get them out of IT first by severing them from the Tree, but it only killed them. So I found another way"
 

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If we want to be technical, the sage saved everyone. Sasuke still has hatred in his heart, he is no position to be leading anyone
Im talking about Releasing them from the infinite tsukyomi, which should have been Sasuke's job alone, i don't even know where the whole Naruto and Sasuke thing came from, i thought it was only suppose to be Sasuke, also Sasuke has experience, you learn from experience, Sasuke's been through things and knows about the world, he's could be a great leader
 

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so why make the thread justifying it, it's obvious sasuke is a complete physcopath and so was danzo, does it matter who was worse?
i provided evidence why they are different and what Sasuke is trying to do, plus Sasuke is not a "Physcopath" anymore, its been said many times, that he changed and is not the same as he was before, he thinks rationally now
 

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They did make a change. They've put aside their differences and joined together. They also entrusted Naruto with the future.
Sasuke doesn't give a damn about everyone joining together. This isn't a tea party to him. This is reality. Sasuke wants justification for his clan and change to the ninja world so that the same mess does not occur. Entrusting that to an ignorant child like Naruto is far from reality.

I don't understand your logic, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Sasuke aid to the Juubi's revival and now you're trying to justify him killing to be right? I call bullshit
Worse argument in the damn book. Did Sasuke actually summon the Juubi, and what the fck does the Juubi have to do with Sasuke killing the kage?

You people need to wake up. Talking, negotiations, fellowship, compromise and good-optimistic vibes are not the answer to everything. Sometimes killing makes change.
 

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So you are saying violence is better than talk? Okay.

What I am saying is, Naruto has never even considered the opposing sides feelings, he is just headstrong about his own way, just as Sasuke is headstrong about his way. But the only differences between the two, is that Sasuke doesnt do it lowkey like others he will flat out say he doesnt care about your ideals, but Naruto on the otherhand basically acts the same way, but he passively says he doesn't care about your ideals. IMHO, both are wrong in this aspect, and bother should at least consider the opposing side before saying that their way is the only way.
 

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I find the comparison pretty funny actually.Danzo had delusions of self righteousness but Sasuke doesn't.
 

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Im talking about Releasing them from the infinite tsukyomi, which should have been Sasuke's job alone, i don't even know where the whole Naruto and Sasuke thing came from, i thought it was only suppose to be Sasuke, also Sasuke has experience, you learn from experience, Sasuke's been through things and knows about the world, he's could be a great leader
He still has hatred in his heart, you cannot lead a nation under that circumstance

@red As I said, he could claim that Madara killed him.

@rest Easy, "Madara began killing people off after IT was put into motion, revealing his true plans" or "I tried to get them out of IT first by severing them from the Tree, but it only killed them. So I found another way"

Kakashi and Sakura are still alive......
 

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What I am saying is, Naruto has never even considered the opposing sides feelings, he is just headstrong about his own way, just as Sasuke is headstrong about his way. But the only differences between the two, is that Sasuke doesnt do it lowkey like others he will flat out say he doesnt care about your ideals, but Naruto on the otherhand basically acts the same way, but he passively says he doesn't care about your ideals. IMHO, both are wrong in this aspect, and bother should at least consider the opposing side before saying that their way is the only way.
That's not really true to be honest,Naruto always listens to other people's viewpoints if they aren't misguided.
 

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Worse argument in the damn book. Did Sasuke actually summon the Juubi, and what the fck does the Juubi have to do with Sasuke killing the kage?

You people need to wake up. Talking, negotiations, fellowship, compromise and good-optimistic vibes are not the answer to everything. Sometimes killing makes change.

What does it have to do anything? Do you forget that without Naruto all of most of the SA would have been dead? Sasuke's contribution to the Juubi lead to Neji's death and many other shinobis' death and now he wants to eliminate the Kage because he doesn't feel like they lead right?. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that, kid has got issues
 

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Sasuke doesn't give a damn about everyone joining together. This isn't a tea party to him. This is reality. Sasuke wants justification for his clan and change to the ninja world so that the same mess does not occur. Entrusting that to an ignorant child like Naruto is far from reality.
The reality is that the shinobi world has already made a step forward to peace, and Sasuke is ignoring all that achievement.
He is the ignorant child. All he ever did was seeking revenge while Naruto and the others were covering his ass.

And you still haven't answered how is it necessary to execute the kages for a positive change?


What I am saying is, Naruto has never even considered the opposing sides feelings, he is just headstrong about his own way, just as Sasuke is headstrong about his way. But the only differences between the two, is that Sasuke doesnt do it lowkey like others he will flat out say he doesnt care about your ideals, but Naruto on the otherhand basically acts the same way, but he passively says he doesn't care about your ideals. IMHO, both are wrong in this aspect, and bother should at least consider the opposing side before saying that their way is the only way.
Excuse me, Naruto has the Will of Fire that is shared by thousands of other shinobi. He earned their trust and respect, and he does care about his comrades' feelings. He did understood Nagato, that's why they could talk things over. naruto reminded Nagato of his former self. Same with Obito. Why are you forgetting these facts?
 
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He still has hatred in his heart, you cannot lead a nation under that circumstance



Kakashi and Sakura are still alive......
He doesn't hate the village anymore, he wants to kill the gokage, because he thinks that they can't rule any longer and that they are responsible for the things that happened, plus everyone has hatred in their heart, i bet Kakashi still hates obito for doing the stuff he did, he wasn't a total fanboy of Obito when he became good, unlike Naruto who was shedding tears for him, in some ways Naruto couldn't be a good leader either
 
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