The Worst Kage (besides 4th Mizu)

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In terms of being a Kage, yes A is the worst. He is stupid and irrational and a one dimensional fighter. I'm surprised the Cloud village has stayed together with that idiot as their Kage.
 

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People just do not grasp the ultimate power Hiruzen holds...

The worst Kage is probably The Second Mizukage, was he not the one who started the whole "Kill your teammates to pass" rule? Either him or The Fourth KazekAge. The guy didn't handle Gaara properly, even as a weapon. If he had killed his son.. He just lost an important weapon to his village for a time being AND who's to say another nation doesn't try to steal it when Ichibi reforms?!
 

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People just do not grasp the ultimate power Hiruzen holds...

The worst Kage is probably The Second Mizukage, was he not the one who started the whole "Kill your teammates to pass" rule? Either him or The Fourth KazekAge. The guy didn't handle Gaara properly, even as a weapon. If he had killed his son.. He just lost an important weapon to his village for a time being AND who's to say another nation doesn't try to steal it when Ichibi reforms?!

It was the 4th Mizukage... but only 'cause Obito was manipulating him.
 

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didnt see your title saying besides 4th mizu, lol. yeah Ay it is, he has anger issues and overall isnt fit to lead
 

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I said "Besides the 4th Mizukage". Because there would be whole crap about him getting controlled by Obito. And then I would have to say it wasn't his fault and etc. But even with that he still has no feats as a Kage.. o_O



That is laughable. If you're comparing Ay and Hiruzen, Ay would defeat Hiruzen. Though that is off topic.

OP: I'll say Tobirama.

Tobirama without a doubt is the second most important Kage in history.

Personally i think Hiruzen is the worse Kage. During his reign, he only made bad decisions that led to worse things like this war(something he self admitted). Uchiha clan was eliminated when there could have been another solution, even important members from Hyuga clan were given to Kumo that easily when they were the one who tried to attack and kidnap Hinata in the first place. What kind of Hokage do something like this?

I would put Hiruzen after some other Kages. But Hiruzen definitly isn't one of the best. X_X.

But hes better then Ay. Hiruzen did whatever to keep the village safe. (Though breaking the law of will of fire). but still you know. Unlike Ay...

Tsunade is the worst kage since she couldn't protect konoha and kyuubi was also ALMOST capturded by akatsuki and if nagato hadn't changed his mind 75% of konoha would be dead

-She got betrayed

- She protected people in a attack where they should all be dead.

- Kyuubi was captured, because Danzo didn't follow Tsunade's plan, and instead wanted to drink tea underground.

Shes the one responsible for the alliance between Sand and Konoha

Shes the one responsible for the build up of the village TWICE.

Shes the one who had to clean up the sad excuses like Orochimaru Hiruzen left.
 
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It was the 4th Mizukage... but only 'cause Obito was manipulating him.

Hm, did he set that rule up? The Obito took over.. I assumed it was one of the older Kages.
 

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The Hidden Cloud were power hungry ass-holes even before Ay's reign.

Attempted to capture the 9 tails...while having the 2 tails and 8 tails..

Then they attempted to capture the 9 tails again later on with Kushina and was foiled by a 10 year old kid (Minato)

Oh and trying to steal Hinata for the Byakugan..which Neji's dad was slaughtered to prevent a all hand war breaking out all because the Cloud were greedy pricks.

But yes Ay is a stupid moron but still the 4th Mizukage was manipulated by Obito even tho he was a perfect jinchuriki while turning the Mist into a bloody shit hole.He takes it for worst Kage ever
 

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Tobirama without a doubt is the second most important Kage in history.



I would put Hiruzen after some other Kages. But Hiruzen definitly isn't one of the best. X_X.

But hes better then Ay. Hiruzen did whatever to keep the village safe. (Though breaking the law of will of fire). but still you know. Unlike Ay...



-She got betrayed

- She protected people in a attack where they should all be dead.

- Kyuubi was captured, because Danzo didn't follow Tsunade's plan, and instead wanted to drink tea underground.

Shes the one responsible for the alliance between Sand and Konoha

Shes the one responsible for the build up of the village TWICE.

Shes the one who had to clean up the sad excuses like Orochimaru Hiruzen left.

1. Who betrayed her???
2. By protected you mean she let 75% of people die.....cool
3. No kurama was captured because no one other than naruto could have protected konoha....
4. No she isn't....Naruto having a good relationship with gaara is one of the biggest reason but she is like 25% of the reason
5. Twice lol she wasnt there the first time and was in coma the second time
6. Clean what up????? She wasn't there right after hiruzen left

PS she let sasuke leave to oro
 

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If you eliminate fighting strength, I think Hiruzen was actually one of the best kages.
 

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Ay.... sorry for the Ay fans. But lets talk about him. Is he dumb or something?

How many times has he brought the world closer to war? oh yes countless times.

Hell as the commander in chief of the army.. I sure in hell didn't see any "leader" quality from him.

Was it just me or were some you pissed off to , when he was talking like he was the boss at the Gokage summit. My reaction was like (Dude stfu, everything they had to do was cause of your retarded power maniac way.)


I'm sorry but the only reason he stayed alive as Raikage was due to this man and the only reason Kumo stayed safe:

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If he had chosen, Ay would be dead. Power of Hiruzen is not to be underestimated :cool:



BUT YES STATE YOUR WORST KAGE.

Lol your wrong my friend when Hizen first became kage his enemy would have been
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The 4 Raikage is Minato rival in the war.

The 3 Hokage reclaim the spot like you know when the 4th died. He was not ready for Ay at that stage of his life.

Mine would be Gaara father
 

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Hiruzen isnt that worse in power. he is definitely among the 4 hokages in terms of power level. but in terms of administration, i think he is hte worse!. why should he leave someone as uchihas to Danzou? he should have killed danzo in the first place. he should have destroyed the cloud village .
 

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1. Who betrayed her???
2. By protected you mean she let 75% of people die.....cool
3. No kurama was captured because no one other than naruto could have protected konoha....
4. No she isn't....Naruto having a good relationship with gaara is one of the biggest reason but she is like 25% of the reason
5. Twice lol she wasnt there the first time and was in coma the second time
6. Clean what up????? She wasn't there right after hiruzen left

PS she let sasuke leave to oro

yeah i agree with you. but Tsunade as a medical nin can only heal the people.she is not fit for fighting.

building the city is not a strategic feat.anybody voted as a hokage can do that.if she did anything,it was training people for medical ninjutsu.
 

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1. Who betrayed her???
2. By protected you mean she let 75% of people die.....cool
3. No kurama was captured because no one other than naruto could have protected konoha....
4. No she isn't....Naruto having a good relationship with gaara is one of the biggest reason but she is like 25% of the reason
5. Twice lol she wasnt there the first time and was in coma the second time
6. Clean what up????? She wasn't there right after hiruzen left

PS she let sasuke leave to oro
1. Danzo and the ROOT
2. So Shikaku the most intellectual guy, is a fodder, and the other 25% don't count. Nice to know.
3. Flase, Kurama was captured, because Tsunade couldn't follow her original plan which was to call back Naruto when she said to. And not to forget there weren't any Kage level ninja to help Naruto out after she went into Coma, and since Danzo decided to let the village get destroyed.
4. She only sent Naruto there because SHE SAW HIM FIT, Jiraiya was against the idea. Only under her COMMAND did Naruto go. And she KNEW it was the right thing. Not only that she sent a skilled Medical ninja O_x. Get at me.
5. She came back to run the village.. and as a result the ROOT got less power. And she made konoha back on track, Second time.. she came back at the right time O_x. And was there for the rebuilding. Though where is your proof she came after the village was built at both times.. You think buildings are the only things that need to be built?
6. Is this a joke? She wasn't right there after Hiruzen left.. Wtfh have you been reading.

Lol your wrong my friend when Hizen first became kage his enemy would have been
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The 4 Raikage is Minato rival in the war.

The 3 Hokage reclaim the spot like you know when the 4th died. He was not ready for Ay at that stage of his life.

Mine would be Gaara father

Start rereading. 3rd Hokage was also Ay rival, since Minato died ;]. And he was the strongest of the Hokage even at that stage of life.. lmao.
 

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why cant she act off the plan? i mean why cant she fight pein? because she is good at healing.
 

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why cant she act off the plan? i mean why cant she fight pein? because she is good at healing.

Ok, so if Naruto had invaded Mt. Moyaboku before his SM training was complete, would he be able to fight pain? no.

She was the most effective Kage in the Madara fight.. so i'm pretty sure she can fight.. considering she was tanking and kicking ass.
 
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