[Discussion] the worst ending int he History of manga!!

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Because no Tobidara reveal, right?

In all seriousness, the last 20 chapters were pretty rushed.
 

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-first i wanna state something ...im not mad at kishi..nor am i dispointed....and i wont bash kishimoto ....

but one has to make his honest opinion : this was the worst and fvcked up and terrible ending in the history of japanese Manga...


1st- it was a very rushed ending....and a fast time skip....


-2nd : wait wait wait !!!....what about the reall goal of orochimaru???...what is it Mr kishi?....why you never explained us why that snake guy was after sasuke and whats his true goal?...


1-where was spiral zetsu and what explains his sudden appearance during the 4th ninja war??...

2-what's the purpose of Madara's rikudo horn falling on the sages tool??...

3- what happned to hagoromo??

4-where are the rest of tobi's mystery explanations?!! ...like how he manipulated mizukage yagura, slaughtred the uchiha clan....and why some skilled ninjas like kisame and itachi called him Madara??...

5-what Tobi face did kisame see??..

6- what about suigetsu's goal and the mystery of the 7 swords men??..

7-the mystery of uchiha madara's body engraved in the uchiha stone..and why tobirama wanted to make experiments on his body

that is why maybe im gonna reserve my opinion ....cuz i dont think such a great mangaka like kishi would ignore all those important details.......

1 - He was in the shadows, his purpose was to co-conspirate with Black Zetsu to fulfill IT. Helping Obito was a façade.

2 - The horn was a distraction for readers, since it had no purpose at all. The only practical use for the horn was to block his third eye. The Sage's tools were there to free those who needed to be put out.

3 - He went back to the pure world before Naruto vs Sasuke started.

4 - Tobi = Guruguru. It was confirmed in the Fourth Databook, meaning that every mystery related to Tobi was just part of Black Zetsu's master plan of activating Infinite Tsukiyomi.

5 - Irrelevant. It could have been Obito's face, or Madara's face, or any face casted by Genjutsu. Anyhow, it is not reelevant to the storyline.

6 - Irrelevant, since now peace is in the air.

7 - Obviously Tobirama couldn't do anything.
 

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Because no Tobidara reveal, right?

In all seriousness, the last 20 chapters were pretty rushed.

im not mad bro believe me....i just dont understand what is happening wityh kishi...not even oro got some focus from kishi
 

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i told you so.......... no tobidara. the end. flawless victory
 

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can i borrow a dash of salt from you, making pancakes
 

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i told you so.......... no tobidara. the end. flawless victory

hahaha nooo...you can't judge me since kishi never explained us what tobiface kisame saw? and where was spiral zetsu this whole time...for your infos the fourth databook stated spiral zetsu to be tobi.....just check it online urself
 

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1 - He was in the shadows, his purpose was to co-conspirate with Black Zetsu to fulfill IT. Helping Obito was a façade.

2 - The horn was a distraction for readers, since it had no purpose at all. The only practical use for the horn was to block his third eye. The Sage's tools were there to free those who needed to be put out.

3 - He went back to the pure world before Naruto vs Sasuke started.

4 - Tobi = Guruguru. It was confirmed in the Fourth Databook, meaning that every mystery related to Tobi was just part of Black Zetsu's master plan of activating Infinite Tsukiyomi.

5 - Irrelevant. It could have been Obito's face, or Madara's face, or any face casted by Genjutsu. Anyhow, it is not reelevant to the storyline.

6 - Irrelevant, since now peace is in the air.

7 - Obviously Tobirama couldn't do anything.

ok dude you gave me your opnions ..but plz where are the manga evidences??????????????????????!!!
 

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so what, no tobidara. the end. manga over.
 

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ok dude you gave me your opnions ..but plz where are the manga evidences??????????????????????!!!

Read Naruto from chapter 1 to 700, and there you have the evidence you need.

But if you want something more specific, chapter 675 and 681 fills most of these doubts.

Everything related to the Indra's transmigrants was pulled by BZ.



Madara wasn't the genious we thought. He was naïve, the true puppeter was Black Zetsu.
 

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so what, no tobidara. the end. manga over.

but its illogicall that you call me wrong since kishi himself never answred the kestions i asked in my tobidara theory.....im rally not mad at kishi...maybe i'll keep waiting
 

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Read Naruto from chapter 1 to 700, and there you have the evidence you need.

But if you want something more specific, chapter 675 and 681 fills most of these doubts.

Everything related to the Indra's transmigrants was pulled by BZ.



Madara wasn't the genious we thought. He was naïve, the true puppeter was Black Zetsu.

Just in case: Read the Fourth Data book as well, the section about Indra and Ashura.

It was also confirmed that Black Zetsu was the one who pulled Indra to create Ninjutsu.

So it was not only limited to transmigrants, but to Indra himself as well.

BZ controlled EVERYTHING from the shadows.

This was already translated, check the sticky thread of the Fourth Databook.
 

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the manga is over and there was no "big reveal of tobidara" like you kept saying over and over and over and over in the end. its over. deal with it.

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Just in case: Read the Fourth Data book as well, the section about Indra and Ashura.

It was also confirmed that Black Zetsu was the one who pulled Indra to create Ninjutsu.

So it was not only limited to transmigrants, but to Indra himself as well.

BZ controlled EVERYTHING from the shadows.

This was already translated, check the sticky thread of the Fourth Databook.

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I'm just pissed about who chouji ended up with

Same here...feel bad for chouji

But so many pairing really annoying....
Naruto kids are cute no doubt....

Feel bad for guy...

Sad abt neji not revived....I was kinda hoping that
 

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Same here...feel bad for chouji

But so many pairing really annoying....
Naruto kids are cute no doubt....

Feel bad for guy...

Sad abt neji not revived....I was kinda hoping that

No doubt about a Shocking Ending huh?
 

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i thought it was a good ending. things are good for all the villages, everyone seems happy.

and then we know something happens and action is needed in The Last movie coming out soon.

just like dbz
 

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No doubt about a Shocking Ending huh?

More like disappointing one.....wat can u do..heart wanting more

i thought it was a good ending. things are good for all the villages, everyone seems happy.

and then we know something happens and action is needed in The Last movie coming out soon.

just like dbz

Movie is gonna b netwen 699 and 700... Will c some action...a better consolation I hope
 

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More like disappointing one.....wat can u do..heart wanting more



Movie is gonna b netwen 699 and 700... Will c some action...a better consolation I hope

hope so....
 
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I have been an avid Naruto fan since I first saw the Neji vs. Naruto fight back in Part I and watched ever since then. While I never really agreed with your "Tobidara" theory, I do agree that this was one of the most rushed manga endings I have read (and I have read a few that I thought were "eh"). Here's why I think it was just doomed to end in a bad note:

1. After the Pain arc Kishi seemed to forget a lot of the rules he put in place in Part I and anything leading up to the defeat of Pain. After that it seemed like he let all consistencies and all fluidity of the manga go out the door. For example, no where did he correctly foreshadow Minato being able to go into Sage Mode, but welp, he did it anyways. I think this is where the manga started hitting a bad note when Kishi storyline seemed to contradict what he mentioned in previous chapters.

2. The War Arc was dragged on WAY too long and in my opinion, should not have had THREE different villains to kill (yes, I count Obito as a villain as well even though he was TNJ'd). Had it ended with Madara it may have saved us at least 20 chapters and we may have gotten a better send off then a freak time skip, which in my opinion, was horrible. Kishi really dug himself deep into a whole and had to rush WAY too much in order to complete the deadline he had set, which in turn, made him put out some rather bizarre and crappy chapters.

3. Finally, the time-skip in 700 was unnecessary in my opinion. It's like he didn't put any thought into who should be with who (besides maybe NaruHina and ShikoTemari) and it sort of ruined it.

All in all it was bad timing and management on Kishi's part. I give the guy credit for the 15 years he's put into creating this series, but its like the closer he got to the end, the lazier he got. I know he wanted the manga to end, but he could have still taken the time and care he did in say the first 100 chapters, then screw it up by trying to finish it on a deadline.

Oh well, here's to 15 years off my life spent on Naruto. Thank you Kishi :)
 
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