The whole Tobirama anime debate.

BlacLord™

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There's always been some confusion about Tobirama in Part 1 due to the fact that the anime said he could create water out of thin air and people have often wondered about this translation in the manga:

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So I just decided to find the raw for it amongst my archives:

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The original translation pretty much hit the nail on the head; my translation would differ little.

"To be able to produce a Suiton of this level in a place where there's no water... unbelievable!"
 

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Didn't realise there was any confusion here. We've been seeing high level water techniques without a water source a lot in Shippuden.
 

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a lot of ninja can do that now though :/

it was a bigger feat in part 1...

also thanks for your translation
 

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Some people were persistent in arguing that Tobirama creating water out of thin air was canon.
But he then uses the water that is in the air (from the previous jutsu) to do another jutsu, that's probably where the confusion is, not in the translations
 
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But he then uses the water that is in the air (from the previous jutsu) to do another jutsu, that's probably where the confusion is not in the translations

He makes the Suiryuudan from the already existing water source.

In the anime though, they made it so that he could literally create water out of thin air; as opposed to spewing it out of the mouth or manipulating pre-existing water.

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I didnt realize there was a mixup but nice job clarifying it for us.
 

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He makes the Suiryuudan from the already existing water source.

In the anime though, they made it so that he could literally create water out of thin air; as opposed to spewing it out of the mouth or manipulating pre-existing water.

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Yeah that's what I said...

And no in the anime he also used the pre existing water from the other jutsu

He uses this jutsu
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Controls the water from that jutsu
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And makes this
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Yeah that's what I said...

And no in the anime he also used the pre existing water from the other jutsu

He uses this jutsu
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Controls the water from that jutsu
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And makes this
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Yeah, he makes the Water Wall by spewing it out of his mouth > re-manipulates into a dragon and then, creates that last Suiton out of thin air - neither thin air Suiton or that Suishouha are canon but there are some who believe it is.
 

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I think that Kisame is on same level as Tobirama in suiton.

Nothing special
 
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