The whole sasuke and naruto incarnate thing was foreshadowed since early part 1

[Rikudou Tobi]

The whole sasuke and naruto incarnate thing was foreshadowed since early part 1.
First we'll start of in part 1. During part one it was more yin or yang element hiden jutsus than actual kekkai genkai yin yang release.

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And it started off with naruto and Sasuke's specializing in certain techniques that holds those fragments. For Naruto he was said since episode 1-100 that he had high stamina to use tajuu bushin without even dying from chakra depletion.
That was the first step to becoming like Ashura, spamming ninjutsus that hold a fragment of yang uses to them.

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Great Stamina

While Sasuke on the other hand uses jutsus that yin fragment, manipulate shadows to mask or hide other techniques.
Such as this one here.

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While he further progress his sharingan, he was said to have powerful chakras for a very young age.

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That was the first step to becoming more like Indra, using powerful moves and yin fragment jutsus in them.

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Powerful Chakra

And then VOTE 1 happened. And anytime incarnates get into a huge life threatening fight, Zetsu is there to record the battle instead of doing his akatsuki duty to capture a bijuu.

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But they were too immature and too distant to be like Indra and Ashura.

Forwarding a bit. Naruto and Sasuke were finally able to reach the final stage of Indra and Ashura during the Mangekyo period and Kyuubi chakra mode period. The actual Six path yin and or yang power.

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That last step for Sasuke was mental/spiritual energy. Creating images from nothing like itachi or evil susanoo.(First image creation he's ever used was during his Mangekyo stage.)

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Naruto like wise with physical energy, giving life to yamato's mokuton. Even the kyuubi was confused by this bodily energy that he thought kcm naruto was rikudou.

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And we all know what summons hagormoo's chakra

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So after that it was time to become literally half of the sage and Sasuke later gained hagormoo chakra to awaken the rinnegan while Naruto gained RSM through his means.

So this proves that the concept of Indra and Ashura was already predestined since episode one, but the purpose of beating kaguya seemed a bit half-assed to me.
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[SenseiSama]

Nope, at the time Kishi was hinting that Naruto and Sasuke had Indra and Ashura's genes. The only foreshadowing we got was that they would have a rivalry like Hashirama and Madara and Obito would make them fight each other.

The incarnate thing was an asspull to justify Naruto being a "child of prophecy" which goes against the whole theme in part 1.

 

[Styles]

You also forgot that them being like Hashirama and Madara was.was also a foreshadowing. Especially once we knew why them and their clans have been fighting for years on years.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

You also forgot that them being like Hashirama and Madara was.was also a foreshadowing. Especially once we knew why them and their clans have been fighting for years on years.

True true the internal conflict within their clans was also key to why it was kept between naruto and sasuke while poeple like Lee, Gaara, and Neji couldn't get that intense rivalry.

Nope, at the time Kishi was hinting that Naruto and Sasuke had Indra and Ashura's genes. The only foreshadowing we got was that they would have a rivalry like Hashirama and Madara and Obito would make them fight each other.

The incarnate thing was an asspull to justify Naruto being a "child of prophecy" which goes against the whole theme in part 1.

All you did was read the title and post this. Can you actually read the thread and see the hint? You'd think the Zetsu part was a big give away let alone the development in their preferred fighting style.

 

[FemmeFatale]

If that was the case it is part 1 Sakura who is the reincarnation of Indra..... Though I did read somewhere that Indra was blessed with all of the sages power , eyes and body

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[Styles]

True true the internal conflict within their clans was also key to why it was kept between naruto and sasuke while poeple like Lee, Gaara, and Neji couldn't get that intense rivalry.

True true. Then everything finally got connected and made sense. The Naruto vs Sasuke thing and all. Naruto and Sasuke was next in line to fight. Hell Obito even said the Uchiha's hatred runs in Sasuke's veins which was basically Madara's/Indra's which he adapted. If it didn't make sense then who wrote the tablet?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

If that was the case it is part 1 Sakura who is the reincarnation of Indra..... Though I did read somewhere that Indra was blessed with all of the sages power , eyes and body

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Sakura is not Indra nor is she Uchiha by blood. If anyone who came relatively close is kakashi.
The heaven and earth logic was something that Hiruzen and Danzo shared.
Indra actually has stamina, it's just not as significant as Naruto otherwise they wouldn't fight so evenly for so many years.

True true. Then everything finally got connected and made sense. The Naruto vs Sasuke thing and all. Naruto and Sasuke was next in line to fight. Hell Obito even said the Uchiha's hatred runs in Sasuke's veins which was basically Madara's/Indra's which he adapted. If it didn't make sense then who wrote the tablet?

The perfect question to ask those who thought it was a recon. Hagormoo wanted to prevent Indra's incarnate from emerging. That intense love that becomes Hatred. But black zetsu needed to have his fun by stirring the pot.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Sakura is not Indra nor is she Uchiha by blood. If anyone who came relatively close is kakashi.
The heaven and earth logic was something that Hiruzen and Danzo shared.
Indra actually has stamina, it's just not as significant as Naruto otherwise they wouldn't fight so evenly for so many years.

I'm just using your logic here
And Sakura technically is uchiha and in part 1
Sakura seemed to have more of a yin inclination that sasuke himself
And kakashi is nothing but obitos eye
Sakura has shown more uchiha qualities without a sharringan than kakashi did with one

I'm just saying I don't think it was foreshadowed in the manga that early, otherwise Sakura and Sasuke would switched places when iruka made his comment , its that way now

 

[Styles]

Sakura is not Indra nor is she Uchiha by blood. If anyone who came relatively close is kakashi.
The heaven and earth logic was something that Hiruzen and Danzo shared.
Indra actually has stamina, it's just not as significant as Naruto otherwise they wouldn't fight so evenly for so many years.

The perfect question to ask those who thought it was a recon. Hagormoo wanted to prevent Indra's incarnate from emerging. That intense love that becomes Hatred. But black zetsu needed to have his fun by stirring the pot.

Exactly. The whole point was so Indra's transmigrant won't fight Ashura's transmigrant for power. But it was altered by BZ the story and connections make perfect sense. I don't see how and why people see it as asspull.

 

[JStar King]

Nope, at the time Kishi was hinting that Naruto and Sasuke had Indra and Ashura's genes. The only foreshadowing we got was that they would have a rivalry like Hashirama and Madara and Obito would make them fight each other.

The incarnate thing was an asspull to justify Naruto being a "child of prophecy" which goes against the whole theme in part 1.

Actually they were. Reread chapter 462. It foreshadows them as being successors to Indra and Asura as reincarnations.

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[JStar King]

Then we have this, which furthers the proof as Naruto was compared to Hashirama and Sasuke compared to Madara.

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[Rikudou Tobi]

I'm just using your logic here
And Sakura technically is uchiha and in part 1
Sakura seemed to have more of a yin inclination that sasuke himself
And kakashi is nothing but obitos eye
Sakura has shown more uchiha qualities without a sharringan than kakashi did with one

1. Sakura is not Uchiha in part 1, that doesn't make sense because she has no sharingan or uchiha blood running through her vains. That's like saying shikamaru is an Uchiha because he has yin hiden.
2. And if you wanna use my logic. Sakura wouldn't be able to use clone jutsus in part one and medical ninjutsus because those fall under the Yang category. Byukago seal and releasing basic genjutsu was just an acquired skill to make her be skillful in handling yin fragment techniques thus making her a well balance character being mediocre in both characters none greater than the other.
3. Indra and Ashura not only reflect on Yin and yang but characteristics as well with lineage. Both something Sakura completely lacked. At least Sasuke acted like kakashi was when he was younger while Naruto like Obito.

I'm just saying I don't think it was foreshadowed in the manga that early, otherwise Sakura and Sasuke would switched places when iruka made his comment , its that way now

That comment had nothing to do with Sasuke and Naruto being incarnates. That feud is only between two people only.

Exactly. The whole point was so Indra's transmigrant won't fight Ashura's transmigrant for power. But it was altered by BZ the story and connections make perfect sense. I don't see how and why people see it as asspull.

I guess people aren't problem solvers like you and I. Kishi's work is just a puzzle that you need to put together to understand the outcome. Using both old and new parts of the manga.

 

[JStar King]

1. Sakura is not Uchiha in part 1, that doesn't make sense because she has no sharingan or uchiha blood running through her vains. That's like saying shikamaru is an Uchiha because he has yin hiden.
2. And if you wanna use my logic. Sakura wouldn't be able to use clone jutsus in part one and medical ninjutsus because those fall under the Yang category. Byukago seal and releasing basic genjutsu was just an acquired skill to make her be skillful in handling yin fragment techniques thus making her a well balance character being mediocre in both characters none greater than the other.
3. Indra and Ashura not only reflect on Yin and yang but characteristics as well with lineage. Both something Sakura completely lacked. At least Sasuke acted like kakashi was when he was younger while Naruto like Obito.

That comment had nothing to do with Sasuke and Naruto being incarnates. That feud is only between two people only.

I guess people aren't problem solvers like you and I. Kishi's work is just a puzzle that you need to put together to understand the outcome. Using both old and new parts of the manga.

It's sad when Sakura fans need to make up stuff in order to make themselves feel better, because everyone knows the character is trash. Just sad. Smh.

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[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Ootsutsuki were still way too last minute and the ancestry contradicted part 1 themes.

Naruto and Sasuke being Yin-Yang is simply that of a rivalry. At the very most it's Kishi setting up the cycle of hatred but even early part 1 I consider that hard to believe. Zetsu's introduction and them fighting on Final Valley heads- that's when Kishi knew.

 

[Styles]

1. Sakura is not Uchiha in part 1, that doesn't make sense because she has no sharingan or uchiha blood running through her vains. That's like saying shikamaru is an Uchiha because he has yin hiden.
2. And if you wanna use my logic. Sakura wouldn't be able to use clone jutsus in part one and medical ninjutsus because those fall under the Yang category. Byukago seal and releasing basic genjutsu was just an acquired skill to make her be skillful in handling yin fragment techniques thus making her a well balance character being mediocre in both characters none greater than the other.
3. Indra and Ashura not only reflect on Yin and yang but characteristics as well with lineage. Both something Sakura completely lacked. At least Sasuke acted like kakashi was when he was younger while Naruto like Obito.

That comment had nothing to do with Sasuke and Naruto being incarnates. That feud is only between two people only.

I guess people aren't problem solvers like you and I. Kishi's work is just a puzzle that you need to put together to understand the outcome. Using both old and new parts of the manga.

If people can do it for other manga's why not Naruto lol makes no sense.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Them clashing in front of the hashi and mads statues at vote 1 was a decent foreshadowing moment imo, hashi and mads being the previous transmigrants, I'm pretty sure naruto and sasuke come at each other from the correct statue in that clash too iirc

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Them clashing in front of the hashi and mads statues ate vote 1 was a decent foreshadowing moment imo, hashi and mads being the previous transmigrants, I'm pretty sure naruto and sasuke come at each other from the correct statue in that clash too iirc

Definitely, but it's also the first hint. None of that comes until later when we start learning about the political system, ninja history and other similar Naruto/Sasuke rivalries.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

It's sad when Sakura fans need to make up stuff in order to make themselves feel better, because everyone knows the character is trash. Just sad. Smh.

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Isn't she like the last Sakura fan on this base?

If people can do it for other manga's why not Naruto lol makes no sense.

It's the previous main three that people tend to lose all their senses. Onepiece and Bleach fans act the same way too. I think Naruto just got worse.
Hunter x Hunter and Onepunch man have some sensable people there or at least the gain their senses back.

Them clashing in front of the hashi and mads statues ate vote 1 was a decent foreshadowing moment imo, hashi and mads being the previous transmigrants, I'm pretty sure naruto and sasuke come at each other from the correct statue in that clash too iirc

Yeah it is but I was dating back to the first 5 chapters of it being forsehadow.
Naruto using yang element hiden techniques while Sasuke using Yin element hiden techniques in part 1 then Naruto graduating to actual six path yang power and Sasuke graduating to Six path yin power before the war in order to gain their final form towards the end of the war.

 

[SenseiSama]

Actually they were. Reread chapter 462. It foreshadows them as being successors to Indra and Asura as reincarnations.

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That's not part 1, Akatsuki arc is part 2, OP is saying it was foreshadowed in par 1 which is when Orochimaru was the villain

 

[JStar King]

Isn't she like the last Sakura fan on this base?

Nope. She still has some hardcore fans on here. Even some of my SB squad members even started wanking and defending Sakura, because she's Sasuke's wife. I remember when the same SB members, who now wank Sakura, were once bashing her. Sakura members even started gaining membership in our group, because they married.

As much as I love my squad, this is just sad