The whole Naruto Plot was fabricated around Rin. True or False?

theRPGdude

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Guys, listen. I'll enlarge what I wrote. Everything has a cause and a effect to how the plot goes. The Sage just separated the Ten Tails but Obito enlarged it in the next generation. Obito was the cause of so much hardships and plot twist.

I mean we can all go on and on how what caused everything first but just viewing this like this is more simple and less vauge.
 

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well if you wanna get technical, it was all fabricated because of the SO6P and juubi

the juubi created chakra, the sage sealed the juubi, created ninjutsu, and on his deathbed chose his successor(younger son).

The elder son was angry and battled the younger son, and from them birthed Senju and Uchiha clans imbued with their destined hatred and powers.

Madara and Hashi came to battle due to a disagreement over leadership

Madara survives, carrying the hatred, and finds Obito, passing his hatred down.

more or less

But I think Madara was the bigger driving force in naruto's life than Obito, since without Madara's influence he would have just died.

Not bad. Really enjoy that read. Just shows the depth of the Manga, am I right?
 

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When will people learn that Rin's death only opened Obito's eyes to the true nature of the world? Her death was a factor yes, but what Madara said to him was the reason.

When Obito said "you let her die", he was answering Kakashi's question, which was "How come UNTIL NOW.....you never showed yourself or revealed yourself?

Also part of the answer to that question is that Obito had to portray himself as the real Madara to the world like the real Madara told him to do.
 

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When will people learn that Rin's death only opened Obito's eyes to the true nature of the world? Her death was a factor yes, but what Madara said to him was the reason.

When Obito said "you let her die", he was answering Kakashi's question, which was "How come UNTIL NOW.....you never showed yourself or revealed yourself?

Also part of the answer to that question is that Obito had to portray himself as the real Madara to the world like the real Madara told him to do.

That's new. I saw you made a thread like this comment. Was it you? Wait it was not. Do you agree with this?

 

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Please don't make me add the Itachi facepalm. Hasn't he already been **** smothered? Lets focus on Obito! **** ride him! :p
Kishi is wise and the whole rin being the reason for war is just bull crap, obito understood that the hate will never stop and more people would die and at that moment he saw his ****ing best friend killing the love of his life and he was badly hurt from inside and he didn't want anybody else feeling the same pain so he joined madara thinking he would be able to stop all of this hatred and create a world of peace even if its fake, and in his mind he is right, and this is the reality.
 

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When will people learn that Rin's death only opened Obito's eyes to the true nature of the world? Her death was a factor yes, but what Madara said to him was the reason.

When Obito said "you let her die", he was answering Kakashi's question, which was "How come UNTIL NOW.....you never showed yourself or revealed yourself?

Also part of the answer to that question is that Obito had to portray himself as the real Madara to the world like the real Madara told him to do.

That explains a lot. A lot of misconceptions are dealt with how others interpret what's going on. I'm not the best at reading so you may see something different or the same. Otherwise I respect what you said. And I really like it. But like I said on my thread its up to you guys. I'm only sparking a discussion.

Kishi is wise and the whole rin being the reason for war is just bull crap, obito understood that the hate will never stop and more people would die and at that moment he saw his ****ing best friend killing the love of his life and he was badly hurt from inside and he didn't want anybody else feeling the same pain so he joined madara thinking he would be able to stop all of this hatred and create a world of peace even if its fake, and in his mind he is right, and this is the reality.

Understandable. Does Nagato's ordeal seem better than Obito's in a way?

Yeah. Dreams are made into reality and reality to dreams. Can't get any simple than that I suppose. And it's tough. So just to make sure it's false?

Sorry if I sounded forceful if I was. Just making a point in my thread.
 
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I already did.

So you agree with this? I got to look at that thread cause it really made some great points. So basically what you are saying is Rin's death awaken Obito in a way to change his reality into a dream peace world? Sounds about right?

If so. Why don't you like the idea of it not revolving around Rin?
 

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Nagato and obito and even Sasuke they all have their own reasons and to them that's right, but the truth is that hatred will never stop,
 

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Nagato and obito and even Sasuke they all have their own reasons and to them that's right, but the truth is that hatred will never stop,

Respect man. Total respect. Hatred will never stop.

Well of that's the case. How will the Narutoverse deal with the never ending cycle of hate. Is what Obito doing justified?
 
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