The white fang

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QUESTIONS:
-the white fang was sanin level or higher. J man, orochimaru, and tsunade were sanin level too. Is sanin level the same as hokage level?
- kakashi surpassed his dad( most likely yeah?) , so he's sanin/ kage level. Can he take down any of the 3 sanins? I think he can own tsynade, dont kniw about j man, and def not oro cuz oro never dies. ( kakashis current level btw)

-MS sasuke vs SM naruto , whod win?

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SM naruto...sannin is not the same as kage...just a legendary name....kakashi is a boss
 

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QUESTIONS:
-the white fang was sanin level or higher. J man, orochimaru, and tsunade were sanin level too. Is sanin level the same as hokage level?
- kakashi surpassed his dad( most likely yeah?) , so he's sanin/ kage level. Can he take down any of the 3 sanins? I think he can own tsynade, dont kniw about j man, and def not oro cuz oro never dies. ( kakashis current level btw)

-MS sasuke vs SM naruto , whod win?

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i think he definitely has the ability to go head-to-head with them....... but it'll be hard to say how well he'll do...... most likely, he'll probably run out of stamina first, but he can still be hecka "boss".
 

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We don't know enough about the White Fang, but he was said to be considered as legendary as the Sannin. The only feat we know of his is that he killed Sasori's family.
 

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The white fang aka kakashi dad his skills were said to "surpass" the sannin in their "youth" that means when they were in there 20's to early 30s
 

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He isnt Kage, but I won't go there. As far as him beating the Sannin, I would most likely say NO but he does put up a fight.

Tsunade 45% chance of winning. While Tsuande may not ahve the speed, she could use her strength to her advantage, not only against Kakashi, but also the surface they'll be fighting on as hell. Not to mention she too is immortal.
Jman 40% chance of winning. They have similar fighting styles in base, with a slight edge to Kakashi. However, Jman has summoning and SM wihich gives he a clear victory
Orochimaru 30% chance of winning. He has no advantages over Orochimaru and would ultimately be overpowered, if not by Eight Branch Technique, Edo would do the job.....oh lets not forget Manda and poison
 

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We don't know much about the white fangs abilities

We know he was considered a legend up until he fell in disgrace, and we know the Uchiha clan was still in full force at the time. ;)

Also, Obito told Sasuke he was weaker than Naruto when he was MS compared to Naruto's SM.
 

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1. white fang is sannin level, which is hokage level
2. No kakashi didn't surpass his dad, although from what i hear he could beat all three sannin
3. Ms sasuke > SM naruto
 

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Well the white fangs reputation rivaled that of the 3 sannin. So as for how strong he is I would say he is sannin level by Rumour only.

He is still my top three fav in naruto though.
 

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White Fang was Sannin Level. The Manga Said So.

If White Fang was Sannin Level, then he was also Kage Level. We know this because all 3 Legendary Shinobi were at one time considered for the spot of Hokage. Oro = Recommended by Sarutobi. J-Man = Recommended before Tsunade, the default Hokage. Tsunade = Current Hokage.

Has Kakashi surpassed his dad? We've never seen him fight so we dont know. Only thing we know is Kakashi is Kage level, which is why the hidden leaf asked him to become Kage when Tsunade was half dead. But So was his Dad. So until we see his dad fight, no one knows. They may be equals lol
 
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We know he was considered a legend up until he fell in disgrace, and we know the Uchiha clan was still in full force at the time. ;)

Also, Obito told Sasuke he was weaker than Naruto when he was MS compared to Naruto's SM.

Obito diddnt say that zetsu did

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The White Fang was a beast. Kakashi is even more of a beast.
 

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I think white fang is much much stronger than kakashi....kakashi cant compete against 3 Legendary Sanin yet...He doesnt stand a chance...In manga in lots of places kakashi himself admits that he no match for 3 Legendary Sanin...
I dnt think Kakashi is at Kage level...he was asked to become kage because in his generation he is strongest...
I think if he becomes kage he will be the WEAKEST kage ever in Konoha history...
 

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Obito diddnt say that zetsu did

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Ah, good save. I thought about looking for the page but wasn't sure which issue to look in.

But yeah, i'm pretty sure SM Naruto could have taken MS Sasuke. With sheer stamina, clones, the Kyuubi, and all the frog back up; Sasuke would be blind before he could win the fight. And keep in mind that SM Naruto took on Pain. He did get a bit of help in that department, but still; does MS Sasuke = Pain? Not at all.

BUT making MS EMS is a different ball game. Totally different scenario with infinite use of MS abilities, as well as stronger versions of them.

Also, Itachi had MS. He didn't want to tangle with Jiraiya.
 
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White Fang Was respected on the same level as the sannin, but that doesn't mean he can go toe to toe with them. And Kakashi isn't taking down any of the sannin. By the way The title sannin isnt a rank, its a title given to Tsunade, Jiraya and Orochimaru.The title means legendary 3, Hanzo gave them this title for surviving his attacks. And he cannot OWN tsunade, she is immortal on the battlefield and one strike from her is deadly, and also her regeneration is top tier but i dont feel on elaborating. The only thing kakashi can do to the sannin is Kamui them but thats not gonna happen because they are too fast for him. And for the ms sasuke vs sm naruto, i think naruto will win because of feats and because of plot.
 

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White Fang Was respected on the same level as the sannin, but that doesn't mean he can go toe to toe with them. And Kakashi isn't taking down any of the sannin. By the way The title sannin isnt a rank, its a title given to Tsunade, Jiraya and Orochimaru.The title means legendary 3, Hanzo gave them this title for surviving his attacks. And he cannot OWN tsunade, she is immortal on the battlefield and one strike from her is deadly, and also her regeneration is top tier but i dont feel on elaborating. The only thing kakashi can do to the sannin is Kamui them but thats not gonna happen because they are too fast for him. And for the ms sasuke vs sm naruto, i think naruto will win because of feats and because of plot.

You're right, Kakashi wouldn't simply "own" any of the sannin. But I don't think any of them are faster than Kakashi, except perhaps SM Jiraiya. Maybe Orochimaru for lack of examples, because instead of dodging i've mostly seen him just take hits and give no ****s. Kamui is almost instantaneous nowadays, although I feel like there is some relationship between speed of execution and the size of the object he's teleporting.

Kakashi has the ability to beat Jiraiya and Tsunade if the situation is good for him, because he CAN Kamui them at neck level. Orochimaru tends to always hide his true form, so this one is higher difficulty. Would he beat any of them for SURE or with low diff? No way.
 

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You're right, Kakashi wouldn't simply "own" any of the sannin. But I don't think any of them are faster than Kakashi, except perhaps SM Jiraiya. Maybe Orochimaru for lack of examples, because instead of dodging i've mostly seen him just take hits and give no ****s. Kamui is almost instantaneous nowadays, although I feel like there is some relationship between speed of execution and the size of the object he's teleporting.

Kakashi has the ability to beat Jiraiya and Tsunade if the situation is good for him, because he CAN Kamui them at neck level. Orochimaru tends to always hide his true form, so this one is higher difficulty. Would he beat any of them for SURE or with low diff? No way.

What i should have said was that the sannin can dodge Kamui especially tsunade who's evasion skills are top tier. And The sannin are both feared and respected throughout the world. thats why kakashi was afraid to fight orochimaru because of his title but still tried. So seeing as kishi based the sannin on a deadlock.
(The world wide game "scissors, paper, stone" originated from China during the Eastern Han Dynasty (25-220), invented by the warlords of that period. Except instead of paper, they used the open palm symbol to represent cloth, so it's "Scissors, Stone, Cloth". The game reached Japan in the early 1640s and one variation of the game was the "Slug, Snake, Frog" variation. In this variation, the Frog is afraid of the Snake, the Snake is afraid of the Slug, and the Slug is afraid of the Frog. This is influenced by the Sansukumi way of thinkingwhere it keeps the three objects in a deadlock. The fact that the Sannin use these three animals as summons may be the author hinting that there is no stronger one among them, and that their strength is more or less equal) meaning that none of them are equal to eachother. so if kakashi cant beat one sannin he cannot beat the other
 

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What i should have said was that the sannin can dodge Kamui especially tsunade who's evasion skills are top tier. And The sannin are both feared and respected throughout the world. thats why kakashi was afraid to fight orochimaru because of his title but still tried. So seeing as kishi based the sannin on a deadlock.
(The world wide game "scissors, paper, stone" originated from China during the Eastern Han Dynasty (25-220), invented by the warlords of that period. Except instead of paper, they used the open palm symbol to represent cloth, so it's "Scissors, Stone, Cloth". The game reached Japan in the early 1640s and one variation of the game was the "Slug, Snake, Frog" variation. In this variation, the Frog is afraid of the Snake, the Snake is afraid of the Slug, and the Slug is afraid of the Frog. This is influenced by the Sansukumi way of thinkingwhere it keeps the three objects in a deadlock. The fact that the Sannin use these three animals as summons may be the author hinting that there is no stronger one among them, and that their strength is more or less equal) meaning that none of them are equal to eachother. so if kakashi cant beat one sannin he cannot beat the other

Well, i'm not sure why you're so positive they could easily dodge Kamui. But it's weird how your whole explanation seems to suggest that they aren't really equal, but rather Frog > Slug > Snake > Frog. This suggests to me that there styles are radically different, and being able to defeat one is no assurance you could beat any of the others.
 
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