The weakest Akatsuki

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my opinion zetsu is cannon fodder nd is being shown as tht his strengeths in reconnacence he is valuable but for wt been seen he weak do agree wit reborn apart from the zetsu indecision x
 

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1. Itachi (simple madara is affraid of him)
2./3. Pain/Madara
4. Kakuzu
5. Kisame
6. Deidara
7./8. Sasori/Konan
9. Hidan

and than there is zetsu

as for the itachi pain issue, this is from another thread dun wanna write it again

i think that it is the same with itachi he doesent have massive scale attacks but is more suited to fight other shinobi than pain



imo: the thing that makes pain seem so strong (well he is extremely powerful and in the top 5, 6 or 7 imo, dunno on which place but so are minato and itachi imo) is his massive scale attacks but him against a shinobi just didnt impress (however still it was amazing) me as much as itachi did against lets say kakashi, kurenai and asuma (kisame was more or less a puppet of itachis who was not suppost to attack without itachis leave) and the time 30% no MS itachi was basically playing with kakashi, naruto, chiyo and sakura

and i think minato would have more far more trouble with itachi than pain

and for madara itachi issue, madara was affraid of him as simple as that
 

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1. Itachi (simple madara is affraid of him)
2./3. Pain/Madara
4. Kakuzu
5. Kisame
6. Deidara
7./8. Sasori/Konan
9. Hidan

and than there is zetsu

as for the itachi pain issue, this is from another thread dun wanna write it again


and for madara itachi issue, madara was affraid of him as simple as that

What was Madara afraid of Itachi for? I really want to know. Also I wouldn't put Kakuzu before Kisame or Deidara above Sasori or Konan...or Hidan but that's just me.
 

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What was Madara afraid of Itachi for? I really want to know. Also I wouldn't put Kakuzu before Kisame or Deidara above Sasori or Konan...or Hidan but that's just me.

well of course everyrhing i wrote is debateable


but madara was scared of him, he was glad or rather relieved when itachi died

he admitted that even he would have been dead if itachi knew all about him

than we come to pain and i quoted myself on the previous post on this one but here it goes again, this is why i believe pain not being on par with itachi

for the rest i mostly guessed based on what i know of them, but my chief concern is between the strength of the itachi-pain-madara trio

i think that it is the same with itachi he doesent have massive scale attacks but is more suited to fight other shinobi than pain



imo: the thing that makes pain seem so strong (well he is extremely powerful and in the top 5, 6 or 7 imo, dunno on which place but so are minato and itachi imo) is his massive scale attacks but him against a shinobi just didnt impress (however still it was amazing) me as much as itachi did against lets say kakashi, kurenai and asuma (kisame was more or less a puppet of itachis who was not suppost to attack without itachis leave) and the time 30% no MS itachi was basically playing with kakashi, naruto, chiyo and sakura

and i think minato would have more far more trouble with itachi than pain
 

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theres no way konan is that low on any list, she can set a paper bombs for 10 min. it would obliterate anyone or anything who doesnt have a genjutsu type kekkei genkai. thats why i would rate konan higher than 8th.
 

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There is no weakest akatsuki cuz they're all strong :p
 

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well of course everyrhing i wrote is debateable


but madara was scared of him, he was glad or rather relieved when itachi died

he admitted that even he would have been dead if itachi knew all about him

than we come to pain and i quoted myself on the previous post on this one but here it goes again, this is why i believe pain not being on par with itachi

for the rest i mostly guessed based on what i know of them, but my chief concern is between the strength of the itachi-pain-madara trio

Where did it say Madara would be dead if Itachi knew. My memory is complete crap in some area's I'll remember the most insignificant things but forget important things lol not that this is important I'm just saying. I'd think the only person Madara would be afraid of is Kabuto since he's been up his ass about that coffin thing.

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Weakest being, in this case which shinobi out of the organization isn't as strong as the another. Sure they're all strong (stronger then the average) but the level in power differs from each member.
 
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Where did it say Madara would be dead if Itachi knew. My memory is complete crap in some area's I'll remember the most insignificant things but forget important things lol not that this is important I'm just saying. I'd think the only person Madara would be afraid of is Kabuto since he's been up his ass about that coffin thing.

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Weakest being, in this case which shinobi out of the organization isn't as strong as the another. Sure they're all strong (stronger then the average) but the level in power differs from each member.

Well said
 

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1. Madara

2. Nagato

3. Itachi

4. Kisame

5. Konan

6. Kakuzu

7. Sasori

8. Hidan

9. Deidara

*Zetsu* Undecided

Deidara just falls to the bottom of my list I have no respect for him. His tricks are the same, explosions that can be evaded and the ones that are difficult to evade cause more harm to himself it seems. Also he was beaten by Sasuke, who couldn't beat anybody in the top 4 (Itachi let him win, and was going to die anyway).
Hidan had one technique or only used one that we ever saw. Cut off his head and without Kakuzu that's it for him. He'll eventually die since he won't be able to kill anybody. He ranks higher then Deidara because his technique is very useful in the sense he can inflict dammage and live while his opponent dies. Also it would be good for war because all anybody would have to do is to get him some blood from a powerful opponent and get it to him so he can use his technique to kill them instently without the hassle of working at it (Idk if it works like that but thats what I think).
Sasori killed the Sandaime Kazekage, he had skill obviously. He also was a complete master at puppetry turning his entire body into a puppet and being able to control a hundred puppets...that's about it. His weak point was dead in the center of his chest. If Chiyo and Sakura had known that ealyer he'd have been dead a lot sooner. That's another thing he got beat by a 16 year old girl and his grandmother I don't care if you took down a Kage that's not a good look. Him and Hidan I guess could be interchangable but I wouldn't say for Deidara. I think Sasori was the stronger of the two in that group.
Kakuzu went to par with Kakashi for a moment with the whole taijutsu thing, while his partner was fighting 1 guy he was up against like 5 other guys (Ino and Choji don't really make up much just...yeah). He was definatly stronger then Hidan and plus if Hidan were to use his technique on him he'd have another four hearts. He'd have to use it 5 times to kill him while all's Kakuzu would have to do is what Shikamaru did, burry his head (which has to be uncomfterable if he's still alive and all). Higher then Sasori no boubt.
Konan...that f***ing 10min explosion. That deserves to be in the top 5 She could change between Kakuzu but nobody below four I believe are really big shyt so whatever. She almost killed Madara (Izanagi with it's badassness saveing his life but he got the rinnengan so it's all good). She was taught by Jiraya. We haven't seen much of her fighting to say so I thought that had to fill in there for something.
Kisame...Now we get into the big shyt. Kisame was the deadliest of the seven swordsmen of the mist past and present. The previous generation may have been the strongest but individually Kisame had those guy's on their knees. He was called the Bijuu without a tail because of his freakin amazing chakra. Although Zetsu's clone fought KB, it was like a mirror image of Kisame and all his skills so that tells itself. Kisame was a legit monster with his fighting. The most destructive Akatsuki member and one of the most affective ones.
Itachi I'm not going to say much one because everything will explain itself. Amatersu, Susanoo, Tsukuyomi, MS, Brillient, Kage worthy. That's it, I'm sure nobody will object to his placeing.
Nagato, another one I'm not saying much about, mastery of the Rinnegan (less then the sage but still)
Madara...The fact that he manipulated everybody below (with the exception of Itachi) into doing what he wanted...come on people need I say more. Control of the Kyuubi, EMS (if he still has it Idk), lived against Hashirama, He's still alive after over 100 years. He's running things all day with no bull shyt from anybody (except Kabuto who has him in a male reproductive organs because of a special summon that nobody knows about yet).

Well this is my oppinion, agree disagree Idc I might argue my points more if called out or I might not feel like it, but its anybody's call. I love never hate just disagree.

this right here is an epic list and it should just be the main list of ranks...i couldnt say it any better
 

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um nagato was not weak he killed jiraiya and many people not only that he destroyed the leaf village
 

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1. Madara

2. Nagato

3. Itachi

4. Kisame

5. Konan

6. Kakuzu

7. Sasori

8. Hidan

9. Deidara

*Zetsu* Undecided

Deidara just falls to the bottom of my list I have no respect for him. His tricks are the same, explosions that can be evaded and the ones that are difficult to evade cause more harm to himself it seems. Also he was beaten by Sasuke, who couldn't beat anybody in the top 4 (Itachi let him win, and was going to die anyway).
Hidan had one technique or only used one that we ever saw. Cut off his head and without Kakuzu that's it for him. He'll eventually die since he won't be able to kill anybody. He ranks higher then Deidara because his technique is very useful in the sense he can inflict dammage and live while his opponent dies. Also it would be good for war because all anybody would have to do is to get him some blood from a powerful opponent and get it to him so he can use his technique to kill them instently without the hassle of working at it (Idk if it works like that but thats what I think).
Sasori killed the Sandaime Kazekage, he had skill obviously. He also was a complete master at puppetry turning his entire body into a puppet and being able to control a hundred puppets...that's about it. His weak point was dead in the center of his chest. If Chiyo and Sakura had known that ealyer he'd have been dead a lot sooner. That's another thing he got beat by a 16 year old girl and his grandmother I don't care if you took down a Kage that's not a good look. Him and Hidan I guess could be interchangable but I wouldn't say for Deidara. I think Sasori was the stronger of the two in that group.
Kakuzu went to par with Kakashi for a moment with the whole taijutsu thing, while his partner was fighting 1 guy he was up against like 5 other guys (Ino and Choji don't really make up much just...yeah). He was definatly stronger then Hidan and plus if Hidan were to use his technique on him he'd have another four hearts. He'd have to use it 5 times to kill him while all's Kakuzu would have to do is what Shikamaru did, burry his head (which has to be uncomfterable if he's still alive and all). Higher then Sasori no boubt.
Konan...that f***ing 10min explosion. That deserves to be in the top 5 She could change between Kakuzu but nobody below four I believe are really big shyt so whatever. She almost killed Madara (Izanagi with it's badassness saveing his life but he got the rinnengan so it's all good). She was taught by Jiraya. We haven't seen much of her fighting to say so I thought that had to fill in there for something.
Kisame...Now we get into the big shyt. Kisame was the deadliest of the seven swordsmen of the mist past and present. The previous generation may have been the strongest but individually Kisame had those guy's on their knees. He was called the Bijuu without a tail because of his freakin amazing chakra. Although Zetsu's clone fought KB, it was like a mirror image of Kisame and all his skills so that tells itself. Kisame was a legit monster with his fighting. The most destructive Akatsuki member and one of the most affective ones.
Itachi I'm not going to say much one because everything will explain itself. Amatersu, Susanoo, Tsukuyomi, MS, Brillient, Kage worthy. That's it, I'm sure nobody will object to his placeing.
Nagato, another one I'm not saying much about, mastery of the Rinnegan (less then the sage but still)
Madara...The fact that he manipulated everybody below (with the exception of Itachi) into doing what he wanted...come on people need I say more. Control of the Kyuubi, EMS (if he still has it Idk), lived against Hashirama, He's still alive after over 100 years. He's running things all day with no bull shyt from anybody (except Kabuto who has him in a male reproductive organs because of a special summon that nobody knows about yet).

Well this is my oppinion, agree disagree Idc I might argue my points more if called out or I might not feel like it, but its anybody's call. I love never hate just disagree.

I like your list but it no way Hidan is seeing Deidara. His weak rang for 1.
2. He doesn't think in depth as Deidara.
3. Deidara lost to Sasuke but at the same time he could have ran, but then again he fought Garaa and won. Deidara killed himself.
4. Deidara fought mostly all the top players and the most people and most the time still survived. Would you say that about Hidan?
5. He does more than just explosives (I explain more just same stuff)
6.All around well rounded warrior. leader sometimes and follower sometimes and solo sometimes being able to think on his feet.
 

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Uh well the weakest akatsuki....well they are all strong in their own way, but if I had to choose one maybe Hidan.....not sure.....
 

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Hidan because he lost to a suport character even if it was shikamaru yes shikamaru is very smart and can win any battle but hidan lost because he under estimated him nine of the other member underestimated their enemys
 

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I like your list but it no way Hidan is seeing Deidara. His weak rang for 1.
2. He doesn't think in depth as Deidara.
3. Deidara lost to Sasuke but at the same time he could have ran, but then again he fought Garaa and won. Deidara killed himself.
4. Deidara fought mostly all the top players and the most people and most the time still survived. Would you say that about Hidan?
5. He does more than just explosives (I explain more just same stuff)
6.All around well rounded warrior. leader sometimes and follower sometimes and solo sometimes being able to think on his feet.

Hidan isn't a thinker I'll give you that.

4. Deidara fought mostly all the top players and the most people and most the time still survived. Would you say that about Hidan?-- Yes because he's not even dead yet lol but I see what you're saying.

As for being well rounded, everybody in Akatsuki is well rounded as a warrior in a sense but I've never considered Deidara a leader just a guy who has a grudge against Itachi for beating him that one time. Even if I switch the two are you argueing that Deidara should at least be above Hidan or in a significantly higher rank? I don't see Deidara as moveing past where I placed him or Hidan. Those two are interchangable. Idk maybe it's my bias oppinion since I never really liked Deidara but in all fairness in skill level I still wouldn't put him above 8, but you're points are clear to me. Hidan recieved higher just because of the affectivness of his technique and his conditioned immortal status.
 

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I would have to go with Hidan. Zetsu is debatable, but, I can't recall specifically, i think he was created from the first hokage's DNA, and is more of a support, back up, medic type shinobi (gathering chakra from others to give it to sasuke, basically can connect himself with the land, and sense almost everyone but can only observe one place at a time, can create duplicates of himself and others, has no chakra signature, feeds on other shinobis, possibly seperating their DNA) He's the type to not take on an opponent head on. I say Hidan for the reason that pretty much everyone else said, to emotional, lacks range in combat and techniques, the only thing that really makes him strong is his immortality, which is a very strong ability, but when dismembered, he's pretty much screwed. You still can't kill him but he's now worthless.
 
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