[Discussion] ?The Venus Project | The Idea Of A Global Resource Based Economy

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livelearnevolve.com, thevenusproject.com, Jacque Fresco

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• WHAT IS THE VENUS PROJECT?

The Venus Project is an organization that proposes a feasible plan of action for social change, one that works towards a peaceful and sustainable global civilization. It outlines an alternative to strive toward where human rights are no longer paper proclamations but a way of life. They operate out of a 21.5-acre Research Center located in Venus, Florida. When one considers the enormity of the challenges facing society today, we can safely conclude that the time is long overdue for us to re-examine our values and to reflect upon and evaluate some of the underlying issues and assumptions we have as a society. This self-analysis calls into question the very nature of what it means to be human, what it means to be a member of a “civilization,” and what choices we can make today to ensure a prosperous future for all the world’s people. At present we are left with very few alternatives. The answers of yesterday are no longer relevant. Either we continue as we have been with our outmoded social customs and habits of thought, in which case our future will be threatened, or we can apply a more appropriate set of values that are relevant to an emergent society.

The Venus Project proposes a system in which automation and technology would be intelligently integrated into an overall holistic socioeconomic design where the primary function would be to maximize the quality of life rather than profit.

Experience tells us that human behavior can be modified, either toward constructive or destructive activity. This is what The Venus Project is all about – directing our technology and resources toward the positive, for the maximum benefit of people and planet, and seeking out new ways of thinking and living that emphasize and celebrate the vast potential of the human spirit. We have the tools at hand to design and build a future that is worthy of the human potential. The Venus Project presents a bold, new direction for humanity that entails nothing less than the total redesign of our culture. What follows is not an attempt to predict what will be done, only what could be done. The responsibility for our future is in our hands, and depends on the decisions that we make today. The greatest resource that is available today is our own ingenuity. While social reformers and think tanks formulate strategies that treat only superficial symptoms, without touching the basic social operation, The Venus Project approaches these problems somewhat differently. We feel we cannot eliminate these problems within the framework of the present political and monetary establishment. It would take too many years to accomplish any significant change. Most likely they would be watered down and thinned out to such an extent that the changes would be indistinguishable. The Venus Project advocates an alternative vision for a sustainable new world civilization unlike any social system that has gone before. Although this description is highly condensed, it is based upon years of study and experimental research by many, many people from many scientific disciplines. They propose a fresh, holistic approach – one that is dedicated to human and environmental concerns. It is an attainable vision of a bright and better future, one that is appropriate to the times in which we live, and both practical and feasible for a positive future for all the world’s people.

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The Venus Project calls for a straightforward approach to the redesign of a culture, in which the age-old inadequacies of war, poverty, hunger, debt, environmental degradation and unnecessary human suffering are viewed not only as avoidable, but totally unacceptable. One of the basic premises of The Venus Project is that we work towards having all of the Earth’s resources as the common heritage of all the world’s people. Anything less will simply result in a continuation of the same catalog of problems inherent in the present system. Throughout history, change has been slow. Successive groups of incompetent leaders have replaced those that preceded them, but the underlying social and economic problems remain because the basic value systems have gone unaltered. The problems we are faced with today cannot be solved politically or financially because they are highly technical in nature. There may not even be enough money available to pay for the required changes, but there are more than enough resources. This is why The Venus Project advocates the transition from a monetary-based society to the eventual realization of a resource-based global economy. We realize to make the transition from our present culture, which is politically incompetent, scarcity-oriented and obsolete, to this new, more humane society will require a quantum leap in both thought and action.

• AN OBSOLETE MONETARY SYSTEM

The money-based system evolved centuries ago. All of the world’s economic systems – socialism, communism, fascism, and even the vaunted free enterprise system – perpetuate social stratification, elitism, nationalism, and racism, primarily based on economic disparity. As long as a social system uses money or barter, people and nations will seek to maintain the economic competitive edge or, if they cannot do so by means of commerce they will by military intervention. We still utilize these same outmoded methods. Our current monetary system is not capable of providing a high standard of living for everyone, nor can it ensure the protection of the environment because the major motive is profit. Strategies such as downsizing and toxic dumping increase the profit margin. With the advent of automation, cybernation, artificial intelligence and out sourcing, there will be an ever-increasing replacement of people by machines. As a result, fewer people will be able to purchase goods and services even though our capability to produce an abundance will continue to exist.

Our technology is racing forward yet our social designs have remained relatively static. In other words cultural change has not kept pace with technological change.

Our present, outmoded political and economic systems are unable to apply the real benefits of today’s innovative technology to achieve the greatest good for all people, and to overcome the inequities imposed upon so many. Our technology is racing forward yet our social designs have remained relatively static. In other words cultural change has not kept pace with technological change. We now have the means to produce goods and services in abundance for everyone. Unfortunately, today science and technology have been diverted from achieving the greatest good for reasons of self-interest and monetary gain through planned obsolescence sometimes referred to as the conscious withdrawal of efficiency. For example, the U. S. Department of Agriculture, whose function is presumed to be conducting research into ways of achieving higher crop yields per acre, actually pays farmers not to produce at full-capacity. The monetary system tends to hold back the application of these methods that we know would best serve the interests of people and the environment. In a monetary system purchasing power is not related to our capacity to produce goods and services. For example, during a depression, there are computers and DVD’s on store shelves and automobiles in car lots, but most people do not have the purchasing power to buy them. The earth is still the same place; it is just the rules of the game that are obsolete and create strife, deprivation and unnecessary human suffering. A monetary system developed years ago as a device to control human behavior in an environment with limited resources. Today money is used to regulate the economy not for the benefit of the general populace, but for those who control the financial wealth of nations.

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• RESOURCE BASED ECONOMY

All socio-economic systems, regardless of political philosophy, religious beliefs, or social customs, ultimately depend upon natural resources, i.e. clean air and water, arable land and the necessary technology and personnel to maintain a high standard of living. Simply stated, a resource-based economy utilizes existing resources rather than money and provides an equitable method of distributing these resources in the most efficient manner for the entire population. It is a system in which all goods and services are available without the use of money, credits, barter, or any other form of debt or servitude. Earth is abundant with plentiful resources; today our practice of rationing resources through monetary methods is irrelevant and counter productive to our survival. Modern society has access to highly advanced technologies and can make available food, clothing, housing, medical care, a relevant educational system, and develop a limitless supply of renewable, non-contaminating energy such as geothermal, solar, wind, tidal, etc. It is now possible to have everyone enjoy a very high standard of living with all of the amenities that a prosperous civilization can provide. This can be accomplished through the intelligent and humane application of science and technology.

To better understand the meaning of a resource-based economy consider this: if all the money in the world were destroyed, as long as topsoil, factories, and other resources were left intact, we could build anything we choose to build and fulfill any human need. It is not money that people need; rather, it is free access to the necessities of life. In a resource-based economy , money would be irrelevant. All that would be required are the resources and the manufacturing and distribution of the products. When education and resources are made available to all people without a price tag, there would be no limit to the human potential. Although this is difficult to imagine, even the wealthiest person today would be far better off in a resource based society as proposed by The Venus Project. Today the middle classes live better than kings of times past. In a resource based economy everyone would live better than the wealthiest of today. In a resource based society, the measure of success would be based on the fulfillment of one’s individual pursuits rather than the acquisition of wealth, property and power.

• THE CHOICE IS OURS TO MAKE

Human behavior is subject to the same laws as any other natural phenomenon. Our customs, behaviors, and values are byproducts of our culture. No one is born with greed, prejudice, bigotry, patriotism and hatred; these are all learned behavior patterns. If the environment is unaltered, similar behavior will reoccur. Today, much of the technology needed to bring about a global Resource Based Economy exists. If we choose to conform to the limitations of our present monetary-based economy, then it is likely that we will continue to live with its inevitable results: war, poverty, hunger, deprivation, crime, ignorance, stress, fear, and inequity. On the other hand, if we embrace the concept of a global resource-based economy , learn more about it, and share our understanding with our friends, this will help humanity evolve out of its present state.

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What do you think? Is this just an utopian dream, or a possible bright, new future; where we all thrive, prosper and progress together?​
 
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Just an unattainable dream imo, for what it's worth it's a nice one though. I don't think we will progress as a civilization further down the road. Just more war and death and all the other bad shit coming. We're closer to the end of civilization more than progression, just my thought I'd like to believe it's going to get better but, I'm taking in what I see happening around the world and just lose faith in humanity with all the war and killing and greed. Trying to enjoy the time I have left
 

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Uff.. I'll read that wall of text completely later. But if this new-society project does not include any religion or supernatural thinking, then I'm in. Where can I register myself?

Just an unattainable dream imo, for what it's worth it's a nice one though. I don't think we will progress as a civilization further down the road. Just more war and death and all the other bad shit coming. We're closer to the end of civilization more than progression, just my thought I'd like to believe it's going to get better but, I'm taking in what I see happening around the world and just lose faith in humanity with all the war and killing and greed. Trying to enjoy the time I have left
On a serious note, I completely agree. Thanks.
 
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It's been quite a few years since I last heard about this. The last time I did was at the last Mensa gathering I ever went to, and it ended up as quite a heated debate.

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Sounds amazing. Would definitely take a huge load off people's shoulders and free them to pursue real goals that will only further enhance society and the world at large. However, there is usually a catch to everything. Earth's resources no matter how abundant is bound to run out at some point especially if we don't place a limit on the amount that is available for the people. For that reason, I don't think this Resource Based Economy is very sustainable for the long run. At some point we will run out of resources, then what will we do? Other than that I'm pretty much sold on this already.
 
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I like this solution but i don't want the world become united in to a government (collectivism),i want a world with no government or religion (individualism).
For this project to be accepted by world we need to get rid of religion,nationalism,racism.
We can also let robots without artificial inteligence do all jobs.
[video=youtube;0tQsrRimOks]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tQsrRimOks[/video]
The Venus Project could make scientists as a upper class and less intelligent as lower class.
Also what is the purpose of the dome in the center of the city ? (It reminds me of the eye of the pyramid)

Now where have I heard that before...
Communism ?
with the rise of robots we have no other choice.
 
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I like this solution but i don't want the world become united in to a government (collectivism),i want a world with no government or religion (individualism).
For this project to be accepted by world we need to get rid of religion,nationalism,racism.
We can also let robots without artificial inteligence do all jobs.
[video=youtube;0tQsrRimOks]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tQsrRimOks[/video]
The Venus Project could make scientists as a upper class and less intelligent as lower class.
Also what is the purpose of the dome in the center of the city ? (It reminds me of the eye of the pyramid)



Communism ?
with the rise of robots we have no other choice.
This is not about having an upper or lower class. The whole purpose of the project is to encourage individuality. You're already looking down on people as "less intelligent", so you're not fit for this project. It's ironic you're coming at it with the same thinking that is causing all the wars and poverty in the first place.
 

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This is not about having an upper or lower class. The whole purpose of the project is to encourage individuality. You're already looking down on people as "less intelligent", so you're not fit for this project. It's ironic you're coming at it with the same thinking that is causing all the wars and poverty in the first place.
Yep.
Lol, communism. People, the communism, the true idea behind it never existed btw. Actually it always existed only among 2 communities. Amongst bees and ants.

And; if we truly want to cool out and coexist as mankind, TVP or a similar idea of a resourced based economy has to be made a reality within a decade or two or quite frankly; we're gone.
 
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