The uzumaki will be confirmed to be the original blood line

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

are you currently being molested by your step daddy making you somewhat a angry and also stupid person?
cuz your comebacks are as dry as the cum i whipped off your mums chin U_U

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[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

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lol click the x

 

[Direcorpse]

At least Direcorpse agrees with me...Im happy there's still people that can understand the manga​

It's just a troll thread, is all lol! b:


That or the thread poster, REALLY does have potatoes for brain :\

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

And you're totally wrong with your own statement.

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Zetsu clearly stated " From Senju ", did he say " Sage of six ****ing potato "? nope he didn't.

Lineage means a descent group that can demonstrate their common descent from an apical ancestor or a direct line of decent from an ancestor What was mentioned? Senju linage.

That's what you said yourself, now what linage did Zetsu state? Senju, I believe.

Reread the chapter and you may yet redeem yourself from this amount of fails.

Lineage means a descent group that can demonstrate their common descent from an apical ancestor or a direct line of decent from an ancestor.(that ancestor being the sage of six paths).In previous chapters it was said the senju and uzumaki were distant relatives so people then started saying branch of senju.A branch implies that the senju came first and as you can see by the tree diagram this is not the case as a lineage as i stated above could be a direct line of descent meaning direct line of the sage.I also pointed out which was finally confirmed by madara that you need both uchiha and senju dna to use the rinnegan.Now if the uzumaki were descendants of the senju like many people were mistaken to believe that only covers 1 strain of dna.Nagato would still be missing the other half and since we now know without a doubt you need both strains to use it that means nagato would be unable to use it.Now since he is a direct descent of the sage he meets the requirements and this is why he is able to use the rinnegan.Remember the rinnegan is the progenitor gene which is a cell that cannot replicate.Only by making the bloodline whole again can it be re awakened and that can only be done if you bring both strains together again like madara did by taking hashi dna.But nagato doesnt need to because he already has the right blood.Reread the thread and you might be able to redeem your fails I guess you never took Genealogy classes humpf /: Don't worry potatoes may not make a good substitute for brains but they are pretty good when baked and drizzled with some melted butter lmao

 

[chardy]

guess, this is what it is, uchiha and senju are descendant of Sage of the six path but of course this sage of the six path has also ancestor which mean he not alone, he might have a brother or something. what was stated above theory is very much possible that uzumaki is the original bloodline meaning the sage of the six path is an uzumaki, thats what i understand on this tread

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

??? Having implanted senju dna doesn't make you a senju.

Nagato is an Uzumaki.
Obito and Madara are Uchiha.
Danzo is Danzo and not senju.

Also the known senju are Hashirama and Tobirama, Tsunade is half. Either way Nagato and Naruto are above Hashirama idc about his hype from Madara, actions speak louder than words. Then there is Mito, Kushina and Karin.

lets agree to dsagree hashi can take kyuubi leaving naruto dead and he rapes nagato and he has tobirama and tsunade to take care of the rest

 

[Syllogism]

Lineage means a descent group that can demonstrate their common descent from an apical ancestor or a direct line of decent from an ancestor.(that ancestor being the sage of six paths).In previous chapters it was said the senju and uzumaki were distant relatives so people then started saying branch of senju.A branch implies that the senju came first and as you can see by the tree diagram this is not the case as a lineage as i stated above could be a direct line of descent meaning direct line of the sage.I also pointed out which was finally confirmed by madara that you need both uchiha and senju dna to use the rinnegan.Now if the uzumaki were descendants of the senju like many people were mistaken to believe that only covers 1 strain of dna.Nagato would still be missing the other half and since we now know without a doubt you need both strains to use it that means nagato would be unable to use it.Now since he is a direct descent of the sage he meets the requirements and this is why he is able to use the rinnegan.Remember the rinnegan is the progenitor gene which is a cell that cannot replicate.Only by making the bloodline whole again can it be re awakened and that can only be done if you bring both strains together again like madara did by taking hashi dna.But nagato doesnt need to because he already has the right blood.Reread the thread and you might be able to redeem your fails I guess you never took Genealogy classes humpf /: Don't worry potatoes may not make a good substitute for brains but they are pretty good when baked and drizzled with some melted butter lmao

Senju Lineage...Nagato
Lineage: means a descent group that can demonstrate their common descent from an apical ancestor or a direct line of decent from an ancestor
Again Nagato: Senju Lineage
So wouldn't that make the Uzumaki the "pure" or "direct" descent of the Senju...thus the reason for them having longevity and able to hold bijuus
And BOTH DNA is not required to use Rinnegan only to AWAKEN...thats the reason why Nagato cannot switch in between Sharingan and Rinnegan...His "DIRECT SENJU LINEAGE" allowed him the compatability of using Rinnegan and summoning the Gedo Mazou​

 

[Midday]

lets agree to dsagree hashi can take kyuubi leaving naruto dead and he rapes nagato and he has tobirama and tsunade to take care of the rest

Hashirama can't rip the kyuubi out of Naruto and he's not above Nagato. Senju liniage + rinnengan > Hashirama. Also the feats are self explanatory.

 

[Optimistic]

lets agree to dsagree hashi can take kyuubi leaving naruto dead and he rapes nagato and he has tobirama and tsunade to take care of the rest

care to explain how tobirama is still alive?
and tsunade shouldn't get involved since she's part uzumaki and senju right?

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

guess, this is what it is, uchiha and senju are descendant of Sage of the six path but of course this sage of the six path has also ancestor which mean he not alone, he might have a brother or something. what was stated above theory is very much possible that uzumaki is the original bloodline meaning the sage of the six path is an uzumaki, thats what i understand on this tread

Thank you for understanding.I guess i can't expect everyone to have an understanding of Genealogy /:But yes that is the general idea.
Madara confirmed you need both strains of dna and if the uzumaki were descendants of the senju like many are mistaken to believe that would only cover half the dna required for the progenitor gene(a cell that cannot replicate)>>>> (in this case the gene being the rinnegan) and as we all know nagato is not a uchiha.And since he does not have uchiha blood he would not be able to use the rinnegan but he can because he is the direct descendant of the sage someone with the undiluted blood.(A.K.A. the single branch on the tree.)

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I hope i could make i clearer for you

 

[Optimistic]

Hashirama can't rip the kyuubi out of Naruto and he's not above Nagato. Senju liniage + rinnengan > Hashirama. Also the feats are self explanatory.

Tim Jamison advises you to stop trying to drill knowledge into his head.He will never listen his favorite character is tobirama.

 

[chardy]

Is Nagato an uzumaki or senju?

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

care to explain how tobirama is still alive?
and tsunade shouldn't get involved since she's part uzumaki and senju right?

than nagato should not be apart of this which leaves tobirama and hashi to jump naruto

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Senju Lineage...Nagato
Lineage: means a descent group that can demonstrate their common descent from an apical ancestor or a direct line of decent from an ancestor
Again Nagato: Senju Lineage
So wouldn't that make the Uzumaki the "pure" or "direct" descent of the Senju...thus the reason for them having longevity and able to hold bijuus
And BOTH DNA is not required to use Rinnegan only to AWAKEN...thats the reason why Nagato cannot switch in between Sharingan and Rinnegan...His "DIRECT SENJU LINEAGE" allowed him the compatability of using Rinnegan and summoning the Gedo Mazou​

To make up for the fact the uchiha dna is needed you tell me it is only needed to awaken it not use it.Which is a fine assessment but then you go on to say ""DIRECT SENJU LINEAGE" allowed him the compatability of using Rinnegan" Which completely contradicts your previous statement to explain why he can use it without uchiha dna.I hope you understand that has just undermine any point you hope to make.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Is Nagato an uzumaki or senju?

Uzumaki

 

[Troyg39]

1. Dude, the manga page you showed clearly has zetsu saying that Nagato is "from" the Senju lineage. Meaning the Uzumaki came from the Senju lineage. Meaning that the senju is a lineage of something bigger (so6p) but the Uzumaki is from the senju, i.e. the Uzumaki is a lineage from the Senju. The Uzumaki can't be both the original blooline and a descendent of the so6p at the time. You are ignoring an obvious fact pointed out in the very page you posted.

2. Even IF the Uzumaki were the "original untainted bloodline inheritance" as you put, that would mean that since the Uzumaki are untainted, then they would all be born with the RINNEGAN! Yet, no Uzumaki has unlocked the Rinnegan on their own in the history of Naruto, let alone be born with it. Madara told us plain as day in this chapter that he transplanted his Rinnegan to Nagato.

I don't know why so many people up here seem to have bought into what you've said. But it's wrong I'm sorry. You are correct in stating that a lineage is like a branch from a tree, but being of descent means the same thing as being a lineage to something. So you can't call the Uzumaki the true bloodline and a descent of the bloodline at the same time. That's like saying the Uchiha are the lineage of the Uchiha, makes no sense. The Uzumaki came FROM the senju. Not before them. It's in a manga and you pointed it out so nothing you or your diagram can say that will change that.

This is how it goes:

*So6p
-Uchiha lineage

-Senju lineage
-Uzumaki lineage

The Uchiha and Senju are the only direct descendents/lineages of the so6p. They weren't just branches, they were his sons. They were named as different descendents only because the sage actually split his powers between them, so neither had the full bloodline with them, which is why you need both to reach the true bloodline. Senju+Uchiha does not equal Uzumaki. Case closed

*Edit* Oh yea and I forgot, you need senju and uchiha dna to UNLOCK the Rinnegan. You don't need them both to use it. Anyone with transplanted eyes can use the eyes powers as long as they have the chakra reserves to do so. Which is why Kakashi can use the sharingan even though he's clearly not a Uchiha.

 

[Direcorpse]

Lineage means a descent group that can demonstrate their common descent from an apical ancestor or a direct line of decent from an ancestor.(that ancestor being the sage of six paths).In previous chapters it was said the senju and uzumaki were distant relatives so people then started saying branch of senju.A branch implies that the senju came first and as you can see by the tree diagram this is not the case as a lineage as i stated above could be a direct line of descent meaning direct line of the sage.I also pointed out which was finally confirmed by madara that you need both uchiha and senju dna to use the rinnegan.Now if the uzumaki were descendants of the senju like many people were mistaken to believe that only covers 1 strain of dna.Nagato would still be missing the other half and since we now know without a doubt you need both strains to use it that means nagato would be unable to use it.Now since he is a direct descent of the sage he meets the requirements and this is why he is able to use the rinnegan.Remember the rinnegan is the progenitor gene which is a cell that cannot replicate.Only by making the bloodline whole again can it be re awakened and that can only be done if you bring both strains together again like madara did by taking hashi dna.But nagato doesnt need to because he already has the right blood.Reread the thread and you might be able to redeem your fails I guess you never took Genealogy classes humpf /: Don't worry potatoes may not make a good substitute for brains but they are pretty good when baked and drizzled with some melted butter lmao

Okay, while I agree with your butter statement.... being that I'm actually looking forward for some baked potato and butter....

Here's proof that Uchiha and Senju are descendants of the older and younger sons, so it's only logical that the Uzumaki are descendants of the Senju

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Alright, it is stated that through their descendants the bloodline had thinned down correct? Now I may not have taken the suggested subject you mentioned, BUT by knowing English in itself and reading the manga, it IS implied that the two REAL descendants are the Uchiha and Senju. Uzumaki being the distant relative of the Senju clan, yet it was stated by Zetsu himself that Nagato (presumably here that Uzumaki is the subject )is from a linage of Senjus. Now as FAR AS we know, Uzumaki are relatives with Senjus and the proofs we have we come to KNOW that they're descendants of Senjus. THAT is where I'm having this little debate with you, when I'm (I'll admit) uncertain about your claims of the Uzumakis.

Clearly, if the Uzumakis were to be descendants of the sage himself, then it would be a close relative of the sage himself. However, as far as we know as of now and can be confirmed is that uzumakis are of linage of Senjus. Just my 2 cents, and you owe me some farking baked potato for that statement.... just saying lol.

 

[MrLukyso]

Double facepalm, when the fail is so big that one face palm just isn't enough.

Uzumaki are from Senju Lineage. It is obvious that the diagram is simple and it goes like this :

Rikudo Sennin :

Elder and Younger sons
Uchiha and Senju
Madara and Hashirama

Uzumakies are just related to Senju, maybe Senju fcuked with another clan and Uzumakies were born I dunno, but main ones are Uchiha and Senju. MADARA/Tobi and a lot more of shinobi with tons of knowlage said that.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

Tim Jamison advises you to stop trying to drill knowledge into his head.He will never listen his favorite character is tobirama.

wrong it is muu and i have proly been watching/reading longer than you so i proly no more than you

 

[ekichi onizuka]

x rep bro