[Theory] The Uzumaki and Uchiha clan's connections

[kageking]

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Pretext

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From the very beginning the focus of this story has always revolved around these two. Their destinies seemed to be to an extent already pre-ordained : sasuke was to follow in the footsteps of madara and naruto was to follow hashiramas path. The curse of hatred and the will of fire, naruto and sasuke, ying and yang.

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Obito's explanation for this is that it all stems from the ancient fraternal feud between TES and TYS of the Rikoudo sage.

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With TES's descendants coming to be known as the uchiha clan and TYS's being the senju. Unifying these two bloodlines into one form appears to grant the user two things, the ability to control the gedo mazou and the ability to awaken the rinnegan. However, only one of these abilities seems to come guaranteed:

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the ability to control the gedo mazou.

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Awakening the rinnegan seems to require more than senju and uchiha powers. Note that Madara confirms that senju cells are a necessity to awaken the rinnegan, but that having them doesn't necesarilly mean you will. In madara's case, his did not awaken until he was at the verge of death at a seemingly very old age:

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So what exactly is the missing link? What condition did Madara satisfy on the brink of death that allowed him to awaken the rinnegan?

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I think we can find the answer to that question by looking elsewhere first, or better yet two "elsewheres" first

Speculation and Analyses

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The Uzumaki Clan Mask shop in konoha

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The stone tablet of the Uchiha, hidden beneath Naka shrine

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When orochimaru went about performing the jutsu to release the reaper death seal and free the hokage, after getting the mask from the uzumaki clan mask shop, he went specifically to the uchiha clans tablet to perform the jutsu. Why would an uzumaki jutsu need to be performed in a location solely associated with the uchiha?


The jutsu in question: the reaper death seal, granting the user the ability to channel the god of death to claim a targets soul, in addition to the users own soul.

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This is an ability that can only be really be compared to the human path

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and the preta path's king of hell technique.

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No other sealing techniques targets the human soul so directly or calls forth a being that is a God of sorts in its own way. Simply put, the level of the jutsu is only comparable to rinnegan level jutsu, giving the user the power of a god and the ability to control seal a soul. I believe that is why the mask needed to be in the presence of the uchiha monument to activate. The ties between the shinigami, the sage and the uzumaki are probably revealed on the monument as well.

*(Not entirely related to the point of this post but is isn't it peculiar the resembelance between the white flame like orbs surrounding the shinigami and those that the juubi jin has?) *

Speculation & Analyses: Conclusions

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I believe the uzumaki clans powers are the catalyst required to activate the rinnegan. It is impossible to say with precision how old Madara was when he awoke the eyes but based off his appearance he was likely far older than hiruzen lived to be, potentially around the age of mito uzumaki ( who lived from aprox the age of the 1st hokage well into the reign of the 3rd hokage ). I think that when Madara transplanted hashiramas cells into himself and the rinnegan did not awaken, he panicked. He would have researched tirelessly to find what he was missing or and done what he could to live long enough to ensure his perfect dream he spoke of would be realized. For this reason, at some point between kushina joining the village and the second great shinobi word war * madara ventured into and destroyed uzushiogakure, looking for the uzumaki equivalent of hashirama cells and at the same time taking the opportunity to eradicate potential future threats. His findings lead him to believe the most capable suitor for his rinnegan would be an uzumaki, trusting an infant nagato with his treasured eyes, putting the entirety of his plans sucess in nagato's unkowing hands. Don't forget, had it not been for kabuto, madara would not have been revived.

*there is a brilliant post dedicated to the timeline of these events if you are interested in a more accurate time scale than this

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[Gerkak]

Interesting theory.

 

[Bimbonium]

Nice theory!

 

[Orochimagus]

Wow, I never thought about linking Madara with the destruction of the Uzumaki Village. I've had the idea that the Uchiha represent Shinto religion, the Senju as Buddhism, and the Uzumaki as the new religion in Japan: Shinto-Buddhism. As such, if the Uzumaki are the missing link that unlocks the true potential of both of the Sage's descendants, then it is the power to unite/meld. Perhaps Madara managed to attain some of Mito's (Or some other Uzumaki) DNA and used this to create Spiral Zetsu. This explains why that Zetsu is so special and it has the ability to "connect" with others. Great theory! ^^

 

[kageking]

Wow, I never thought about linking Madara with the destruction of the Uzumaki Village. I've had the idea that the Uchiha represent Shinto religion, the Senju as Buddhism, and the Uzumaki as the new religion in Japan: Shinto-Buddhism. As such, if the Uzumaki are the missing link that unlocks the true potential of both of the Sage's descendants, then it is the power to unite/meld. Perhaps Madara managed to attain some of Mito's (Or some other Uzumaki) DNA and used this to create Spiral Zetsu. This explains why that Zetsu is so special and it has the ability to "connect" with others. Great theory! ^^

Chees mate. Could be! I think the "who's inside spiral zetsu" reveal will be a good one.

Nice theory!

Interesting theory.

Cheers glad you enjoyed it

 

[flyboyissac]

I don't remember second color last pic happening matter fact its type disturbing LOL

 

[Tirant]

Here we go with dis uzumaki is the key to every thing shit again

 

[kageking]

I don't remember second color last pic happening matter fact its type disturbing LOL

jogging your memory?

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Here we go with dis uzumaki is the key to every thing shit again

If you don't want to read it...then don't ...you know...read it. I didn't ask you to so why waste your own time?

 

[Tui]

Good theory, many interesting points.

 

[Orochimagus]

Well, Tirant. Some people are actually Naruto fans and enjoy the manga to the full extent. There are connections the average reader misses because they just skim through the manga. You should let people who appreciate Naruto more than you discuss all they want. ^_^'

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Good thread, I would also like to add something concerning the nature and identity of the Shiki Fuujin:

Spoiler

Unbeknownst to many, the Shinigami of the Reaper Death Seal is a woman:

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The Reaper is a Hannya Demoness who are all females and solely females.

The Shinigami is also a priestess holding a prayer beads and reciting a prayer before commencing the sealing ritual:

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The Reaper's initial stance with it arms spread is a clerical/priestly stance:

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Like Rikūdou/Hagoromo's stance:

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It was established and well known by now that the Shiki Fūjin required Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Tablet as the catalyst for the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Reaper:

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It is because the Shiki Fūjin is Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Jutsu

and the Reaper is most probably Kaguya Ōtsutsuki, Rikūdo/Hagoromo's mother:

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As to why Kaguya became the Shinigami of the Shiki Fūjin, Kishimoto has not yet explained or revealed why, either as an end effect of eating the Shinju's fruit or as a mother's sacrifice to aid her son in fighting the Jūbi.

 

[Orochimagus]

Yeah, I am a supporter of that theory, DerpObito. I think his mother should have been punished for what she did.

 

[kageking]

Cheers derp!
Yes I'm sure I've read that in one of your threads before and I agree. Chances are kaguya either is or at least has a connection to the shinigami. Eating the shinjuu fruit could have given her the power to either control or become the shinigami and she could very well have used that ability to help the sage seal the juubi. I didn't have enough evidence to back up that idea so I didn't include it but your post does.

 

[Xāvî1]

Well that is a great theory with out any doubt. I myself always felt something was wrong, why did madara implant his own precious rinnegan into nagato in the first place when he could easily choose some one from the senju lineage.. Uzumakis are really special. along with the uchihas.

 

[Almighty Ra]

Great thread and awesome theory I myself have always thought Madara had a hand if not destroyed the Uzumaki village himself for such a purpose if not jus for fear of what the Village of Eddy could provide to help the Konoha during the war or in the future.