[Discussion] The universe does not exist?

[YowYan]

Empty space is not empty at all! The vacuum is actually a plenum. It contains an abundant amount of energy, the zero point energy. There is a cosmic dance of energy back and forth between the physical realm and the zero point field, a constant creation and destruction of matter from the void. The continuous flow of energy in and out of the material world resembles what Eastern Hindu cosmology described as the cosmic dance of Shiva. Could it be that what scientists are observing as the zero point energy is in fact our own collective consciousness and that we are creating the physical world from this energy? If consciousness is indeed the first cause of physical reality and not the effect, at least we have identified a candidate for the required spiritual energy! Ancient science has been secretly preserved throughout history and is now being reconstructed by modern science. This ancient knowledge is called sacred geometry and for some reason it was very important to be preserved for future generations. In antiquity it was taught in the mystery schools of the Egyptians and the Greeks. On penalty of death, initiates had to keep this knowledge secret throughout history. In the West this knowledge was preserved in Gnostic circles and secret societies of Knights Templars and Freemasonry. The science of sacred geometry claims that everything in our universe has an underlying invisible geometric structure following a fundamental principle. Contemporary scientists now use sacred geometry to explain how physical reality is constructed from the omni present and all-pervasive background energy of the physical vacuum.

 

[Kenotthib]

"all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.”
― Bill Hicks

 

[Itachi75]

For people that follow religion. God transpires time and is a entity that is beyond our comprehension.
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Imagine if you will a being with only two dimensions(for example a stickman on a drawing board) can a two dimensional being process the ways of a three dimensional being?
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It would blow the two dimensional beings mind(how can something exist that can rotate his body like that?)
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Now we humans are three dimensional beings, but God is a being that is a infinital dimensional being, how can we even come close to comprehending something like that?
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it is impossible to fathom.
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that is only for religious or theologians lol
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as for people who believe that the universe orginated from the big bang, you have two options.
1. wait for Steven hawkings or another scientist of his caliber to produce another idea that would have caused the big bang.
2. take it upon yourself to find the answer, by diving head first into the land of phyiscs and all the advanced forms of science.
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the difference between religious people and non-religious people is that one believes in one's diety, while the man of science has faith in his work and the work of other humans, as they adventure out to find the answer to the mysteries of the universe.
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I personally believe God made the universe(from a christian perspective) but i won't look down on anyone who tries to look for answers anywhere else. I believe God gave us free will to take whatever path there is, we just need to remember there are consequences for our actions. lol
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but back to the original topic. I think that it is a very interesting discussion and a fun one

 

[narutokage99]

Random does not design, does not fit, does not hold.Random only make porridge.Univers and life can't be set randomly.


Some people doesn't understand the absurdity of infinite regression.

It's like asking :
what caused the cause of the cause of the univers?
Let's continue...
what caused the cause of the cause of the cause of the univers?
Let's continue..
what caused the cause of the cause of the cause of the cause of the univers? etc...

I can give an other exemple .

Imagine you are a soldier ready to fire a gun, but before you shoot you have to ask permission for the soldier behind you, but he has to do the same, and it goes on for infinity. Will you ever shoot? No you wouldn’t. This highlights, the absurdity of an infinite regress and this applies to events to. Therefore, there cannot be an infinite history of past events.

So asking continuously "who created god?"or "what is the cause that created the universe ?"it amounts to saying that we have no univers.

 

[chopstickchakra]

"all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.”
― Bill Hicks

Awesome to see someone on the Base with taste.

 

[EnDash]

people completly misread the big bang theory. all we know for sure is that the universe is expanding. everything moves to the outer side of the universe. but that is the end of it. the big bang itself remains a mystery and anything before the big bang is even a bigger mystery. the current physics we have which is einstein's relativity breaks down in two places, the center of a black hole and the moment of the bing bang. so in short there is no proven scientific equation that explains the big bang and before it we maintain that there was nothing, no light, no time, no vaccum or atoms or anything that does anything we have in the universe now.

however, string theory and the currently being worked on m theory can explain the multiverse concept of multiple universes, all like bubbles in a bubble bath. when two bubbles come in contact they merge into a larger bubble, and large bubbles sometimes split into two small bubbles. that merging and splitting is, in theory, the big bang. the only problem is how extremly hard it is to prove any of that since we can only prove anything in our universe.

 

[Cruciatus]

"Doe to create bread."

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

have you ever though that history repeats itself??? it is because... it does its called synchronicity there is no such thing as coincidence , everything happens for a reason and the same thing happens over and over again until we as the human race figure out how to get out of this loophole. just how rome was a "democratic country " so are we and the US will fall just like they did. and the beauty of it is that it works in cycles. depends where the planet is along the orbit of the galaxy.