The understanding between transmigrants.

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Is anyone else disappointed that Naruto/Sasuke never properly talked to Hashirama/Madara? I was always hoping to see some interaction between the different generations of transmigrants. Sasuke tried it at one point but Hagoromo stopped him because of Hashirama.

It would've been interesting to see them talk to each other. Each could learn from one another and TnJ wouldn't have to be only Naruto's stigma, you know. At least, they could feel each other's empathy and maybe the cold characters like Madara would show a shred of emotion.
 

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That would've been cool to do.
 

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Yeah, I agree. But, Naruto got it with the Sasuke's predecessor of Indra, and Sasuke with the Naruto's predecessor of Ashura; sort of.
 

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Yeah, I agree. But, Naruto got it with the Sasuke's predecessor of Indra, and Sasuke with the Naruto's predecessor of Ashura; sort of.

Not directly. I mean as in the conversation between the 4 eyes.
 

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Not directly. I mean as in the conversation between the 4 eyes.

Yeah, I get what you mean which is why I added "sort of". They kind of had a little interaction, but it could have been more and better imo.
 

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Yeah, I get what you mean which is why I added "sort of". They kind of had a little interaction, but it could have been more and better imo.

To what are you actually referring to? You mean when they talked to Hagoromo?
 

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To what are you actually referring to? You mean when they talked to Hagoromo?

No, in general. Though, it could have even been done after Kaguya's defeat imo.
 

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No, in general. Though, it could have even been done after Kaguya's defeat imo.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. Sasuke even looked like he had a few questions for him (before he kills him Lol).
 

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To what are you actually referring to? You mean when they talked to Hagoromo?

Bro Kishi stopped using logic since War arc . The transmigrant was an asspull just to bring naruto and sasuke alive ..

If you look at it Hashirama Should never be Asura because he was talented and better than Madara from beginning .

Showing hashirama and Madara as transmigrant is one of bad writing of Kishi .
 
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Bro Kishi stopped using logic since War arc . The transmigrant was an asspull just to bring naruto and sasuke to alive ..

If you look at it Hashirama was never Asura because he was talent and better than Madara .

Bringing hashirama and Madara as transmigrant is one of bad writing of Kishi .

It's a plot hole which readers are free to make their own understanding.

Indra was talented more than Ashura just as Sasuke was talented more than Naruto. But with time, it comes to equality or Ashura's transmigrant becomes stronger by a margin. Hashirama was an exception. It's the only way to elaborate it.

But it was apparent. Two strongest characters, one with Doujutsu, another with the body. It was predictable.
 

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Bro Kishi stopped using logic since War arc . The transmigrant was an asspull just to bring naruto and sasuke alive ..

If you look at it Hashirama Should never be Asura because he was talented and better than Madara from beginning .

Showing hashirama and Madara as transmigrant is one of bad writing of Kishi .

I noticed that too. Asura needed others to become stronger. Hashirama became the God of Shinobis without help. He was shown to have great talent from the beginning, eventually awakening Moukton.
 

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I noticed that too. Asura needed others to become stronger. Hashirama became the God of Shinobis without help. He was shown to have great talent from the beginning, eventually awakening Moukton.

Hashirama became stronger because he was all about unity, he cared for others in a way that only understanding one another can make them strong. Madara had Indra's belief in which authority of power rules all. Ashura didn't really need others to beat Indra. It was a context to elaborate his way of thinking.
 

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They learned the important lesson by just witnessing their predecessors .
 

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Bro Kishi stopped using logic since War arc . The transmigrant was an asspull just to bring naruto and sasuke alive ..

If you look at it Hashirama Should never be Asura because he was talented and better than Madara from beginning .

Showing hashirama and Madara as transmigrant is one of bad writing of Kishi .
Ashura and Indra is not an asspull all throughout naruto there's parallels between the Indra and Ashura mythology and naruto/sasuke senju/uchiha
The ashuras didn't had any unique ability. They were always in groups. However, some demons trained hard/born gifted (or, when they rigorously worship one of the Gods, they will be granted some wishes.)- Hashirama, Tobirama.
They(Ashuras) were well known for their strength and their endurance. Senjus possess the same talent.
 

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Less talking and more doing
 
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