The Uchiha's beat the Otsutsuki Clan.

[Michael]

If the Ootsutsuki clan did not use Chakra Fruits none of the characters you posted would be born with the power they have.

By this logic nobody in NV would be born with power. By default otsutsuki wins.

 

[Holy God]

By this logic nobody in NV would be born with power. By default otsutsuki wins.

The thread clearly states the Uchiha keep their Sharingan.

 

[Michael]

The thread clearly states the Uchiha keep their Sharingan.

Well on that basis alone this thread fails. OP simply states no external powers however there exist otsutsuki naturally born powerful like kaguya's children.

There are no known otsutsuki without direct chakra fruit influence besides the ones I listed.

 

[Styles]

Nothing was indicated that Sasuke was in Kaguya dimensions during the Last...

Actually in the last it showed Sasuke walking in the same dimension she threw him in.

EMS is literally taking anothers eyes and combining their chakra with your own. By this logic otsutsuki can turn eachother into fruit and power up like momoshiki.

Also Adult sasuke with rinnegan barely fended of kinshiki, you telling me other uchiha with just sharingan (3T-MS) = Adult sasuke with mastered EMS and Rinnegan? Okay

EMS is still an Uchiha power so that's irrelevant it's still their clans power.

Adult Sasuke was easily beating Kinshiki and he used nothing but kenjutsu and ameno to get him off guard. And that was with 1 arm.

And no i never said that tf wrong with you?

 

[itachi4real]

Uchihas low diff

 

[Troyg39]

You really arguing this??

Otsutsuki's. Especially if no chakra fruit is involved because that means sharing is never passed down thru cheap diluted DNA making uchiha a clan beyond fodder

 

[Belserion]

The Ototsuki win imo

 

[salamander uchiha]

Uchiha low difficulty

 

[MomoSaka]

People keep mentioning the chakra fruit as its the source of power for all of the otsutsuki clan members.....and forgot that the uchiha clan power came from Kaguya who ATE the chakra fruit

 

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

Dude the clan is fodder enought for some kids what makes you think they can challenge goad?

 

[Warlocks]

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Boruto is also dumb af supposedly Sasuke couldn't dimension hop until he had Nue's scroll but during the last he was already shown being inside of her dimension.

so where does it say she was running away

 

[Warlocks]

EMS is Uchiha power tho. :wut: and even with MS they're stronger than those kage. Tho Kinshiki may still win.

its still external powers

 

[salamander uchiha]

its still external powers

External mean outward, internal means inward. An organ is internal eyes brain chakra etc. clothes, weapons etc are external(unless they come from the internal).
Sharingan is internal which affects the external
Sagemode is external which affects the internal

So no sir they're not external other than that stay :salt:y

 

[Umari Senju]

C'mon now it's literally saying and been said Kaguya went to earth and made an army to prepare for Momoshiki

Actually no it didn't. You/we are assuming it was Momo/Kin they too aren't the head of the Otsutsuki clan. You may call Boruto filler but Kishimoto is still involved and their are other more powerful Otsutsuki out there. Momo attested to that in Boruto.

Kaguya or Sasuke never stated it was specifically Momo nor was it actually implied it was them. That was all us.

 

[Brady]

People keep mentioning the chakra fruit as its the source of power for all of the otsutsuki clan members.....and forgot that the uchiha clan power came from Kaguya who ATE the chakra fruit

The Otsutsuki clan without chakra fruit powers would leave only Hamura, Asura, Indra, and Hamura with powers of the fruit. Even then, Indra probably wouldn't fight his children so they'd probably lose a teammate in the ight.

The Otsutsuki would get demolished without the chakra fruit powers. The Uchiha already have it in their DNA. We're arguing the Uchiha with their KKG vs the Otsutsuki and their KKG.

 

[Michael]

The Otsutsuki clan without chakra fruit powers would leave only Hamura, Asura, Indra, and Hamura with powers of the fruit. Even then, Indra probably wouldn't fight his children so they'd probably lose a teammate in the ight.

The Otsutsuki would get demolished without the chakra fruit powers. The Uchiha already have it in their DNA. We're arguing the Uchiha with their KKG vs the Otsutsuki and their KKG.

Hagoromo alone wrecks uchiha low diff, hamura and ashura would pop some popcorn and enjoy the show. Indra isn't needed although he too wrecks.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Otsutsuki's wreck the Uchihas lol.

 

[Vulpini]

Itachi and Sasuke >>Otsutsuki clan >> Entire Hyuga Clan

 

[chaos control]

Without any external powers, which clan wins.

The Uchiha have the Sharingan.

The Otsutsuki have the Byakugan although we aren't sure if it even does anything without chakra fruit influence.

Here is the thing that I find stupid about this argument (no offense to you specifically OP. I've seen several people make this argument):

The Uchiha are just a subset of the genetic line of one particular member of the original Otsutsuki (Kaguya). They basically are Otsutsukis themselves. You can argue that the Uchiha are not aliens, and that they are actually just humans with mere traces of Otsutsuki blood, but in the grand scheme of things, when it comes to battle they are essentially the same as the aliens (or at least as Indra, and to a lesser extent Hagoromo and Kaguya). Their human genetics are irrelevant when it comes to their bloodline powers. That power comes solely from the lineage of Kaguya Otsutsuki (or more specifically from the chakara fruit which you chastise so much).

You people who make this argument say Uchiha > Otsutsuki as if they are two totally different things, but you are really just saying:

Descendants of this one enhanced Otsutsuki > other Otsutsukis

You chastise the Otsutsuki for having to use the chakara fruit, but the Uchiha's themselves wouldn't even exist without the chakara fruit (at least not in the way we know them). If Kaguya hadn't eaten that fruit (which you are considering an external power), then there would be no sharingan.

Without any external powers you ask? Well without any external powers the Uchiha don't exist, so the Otsutsuki wins by default.

Moral of the story: When people bring up the Otsutsuki in debate, nobody is taking about or cares about Otsutsukis outside of Kaguya's line (except for Momoshiki and Kinshiki). Therefore your point is moot.

 

[Unknnown]

Otsutsuki wins since their Byakugan is kekkei mōra or/and maybe because of their chakra