The Uchiha would made better Hokages

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I disagree at bold, he swore to protect Naruto/Sasuke from Danzo "He threatened Danzo if he ever layed his hand on Sasuke he'd reveal all the village's information to every other hostile village".(Not stating Naruto, but the same would apply I guess)

Besides he isn't the one who said "KILLL THE DAMNN UCHIAHA KILL THEM ALLL!!!"

He was the one begging for time on trying to find a way to reason with them, clearly showing even when he had the choice to have them all killed in one foul swoop he tried for a peaceful way.

That isn't exactly kind, but damn pretty protective.
I agree with the rest quite easily, both were always trying to get the drop over the other.
Like when both had plans of killing Madara/Hashi.
Come on. You don't honestly believe that sitting on the side lines and letting everything slip by and doing nothing, when the position warrants action isn't poor leadership? You don't believe that.

Well, I'll be. At least someone agrees that those damn Senjus weren't the bastions of goodness that everyone here likes to howl about.
 

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I'll give that to Madara only, he actually cared for the village at first. Before his corruption of course.
Well Madara was easily corrupted, just because Tobirama wanted democracy where the council and villagers vote for who should be Hokage instead of Hashirama acting like a dictator like his father and just declare Madara Hokage. Tobirama then goes on to say Madara wouldn't be Hokage anyways because of the rumors of Uchihas Sharingans getting stronger from hatred going around the village. That caused Madara to lose it yet Gaara was seen as a monster and hated from killing people in his own village and worked hard to gain everyone's forgiveness and became the Kazekage.

The only Uchihas that would make good Hokages are those with the will of will like Itachi, Shusui, and Shusui's dad since they seen the village as a whole more important than any single clan.

All you did were post pointless, self-serving opinions from a man that was at the forefront of segregation. It helps your case a lot. Declaring that Hiruzen was kind is your paltry opinion, when his actions are a far cry from that. Do I need anything to declare this false, when I have manga incidents to back this up? No, I don't.

Your last paragraph is nothing but a pile of nonsense. And given your post history and Senju Fanboyism, it fully follows the trend, as the manga and Black Zetsu's statement of both clans fighting each other for power certainly doesn't back it up. It shows that Senju were not any less power hungry and corrupt. So what does that make all this? Your opinions.
No, that was your opinions that were like that. Had the Uchihas not have many members that lose control then they would have been the same as any other clan with the same potential to be voted in high positions in the village government. Yes too kind, what do you call someone who tries to solve things peacefully but when he knows the only way to solve it might be something dark, he allow Danzo to take the lead. He didn't kill his student who committed many crimes because he have a heart and loved all of his students; Orochimaru was his favorite. He tries to believe in the good in people which is why he didn't kill Orochimaru when he first suspected it was him before actually having proof or why he didn't kill his old rival Danzo who committed many sins.

Senju fanboyism? How's that when I like many non-Senju characters? Itachi, Hebi Sasuke, Naruto, Minato, Kakashi, Jiraiya, Yamato, Sakura, Shikamaru, Shikaku, Choji, Ino, Hinata, Neji, Lee, Gai, Kisame, Obito, Madara, Tobirama, Hashirama, Kabuto, Orochimaru, Gaara, Bee, A, Oonoki, Mei, Tsunade, Temari, Nagato, Yahiko, Konan, Kushina, Kimimaru, Hiruzen, Asuma, Shino, 3rd Raikage, Chiyo, Sasori, Deidara, Oonoki's granddaughter who can use lava. So how am I a Senju fanboy? If I don't see one of my fave beating another one then I will say so and it's simple as that. I actually do like the Uchihas like Madara, Itachi, Hebi Sasuke, and Obito and only one of them was actually a good person even if they had to do some dirty things.

Obito tells Sasuke the Uchihas selfishly desired power . An Uchiha said that. Hashirama wasn't fighting for power, he was already stronger than Madara but never killed him while Madara and Izuna were fighting out of Hatred from the lost of their brothers. That goes with what Tobirama told Sasuke, the stronger the love, the stronger the hate would be. It's not about hating the Uchihas, it's about seeing them for what most of them are and that's people who are easily influenced by hate. You act like people hate the Uchihas for stating that, hate gives the Uchihas power which they use to be badas*.

Tobirama is already dead and have no reason to lie to Sasuke, he has been talking up front to him this whole time even if it made Sasuke pissed so why would he lie and piss off someone who have someone that can control them to destroy the village? He simply doesn't care about telling the truth even if it's in a way someone would take offensively. Sasuke asked him if he hated the Uchihas and he said no, no reason to lie about that when the other Hokages even included their own parts that went along with Tobirama's. Also if anything Tobirama said was a lie then Hashirama would have called him out on it as he was doing before yet he didn't, Tobirama even said Hashirama knows that the Uchihas is a clan cursed by hatred without Hashirama denying.

So Uchihas were the power hungry ones, their ancestor, Indra will was about power. Hashirama's father wasn't like Hashirama so he was more about power but Hashirama took over as he grew and we know he wasn't about power when he kept asking Madara to stop fighting and sign a peace treaty.
 

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Fugaku might have been a great Hokage with someone to mellow him up a bit .... He is clam, tactical, idealistic, passionate and has nearly every charachter to be worthy leader. OR the pre Sharingan Madara .... even if EMS Madara stayed and didnt act like a Emo ***** things might have been different, his main fault was that he was nearly never willing to compromise and that would be a problem (Remember how Hashirama earned the respect and co operation at the first 5 Kage meeting with his humility? Madara would have most likely gone breserk and raged).
 
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