The Uchiha Massacre: Justification

[closecombat1254]

Says the guy who just went out on a limb to state that killing children is okay. The irony ...



No, it's your word against the manga as well. No where in the manga is it stated that the Coup was not justified nor does it state the slaughter was. Let it go.

Lol funny uchia fan gamble with your family

 

[BLAZE]

Lol funny uchia fan gamble with your family

????????
What do u think massacre is some kind of joke.
Leave thar fanbase logic in trash bin.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

I never disputed what was stated in the manga. I only take issue with how things were conducted with dealing with the Uchiha. There were alternatives that were not taken. The Uchiha clan was not some invading nation. They were a small minority confined to the outskirts of the village. With how easily Itachi and Obito killed the clan, one can surmise to say that in alive combat situation, the Uchiha would've fought very bravely but died nonetheless.

Then you already know that the end result would've been the Uchiha clan wiped out anyway, either through Itachi & Obito or through fight against the whole Leaf. But the latter would have caused casualties both sides, which the Hokage and the Elders were trying to prevent.

Praise coming from weak Hokage who would rather appease than lead and keep his oath to protect the villages. All the villagers including the Uchiha. Itachi was may have thought like a Hokage, but I doubt any of the other Hokage would've thought exterminating an entire clan was the right way to ensure peace. Itachi was 13 years old when he carried out Danzo's orders to kill the Uchiha. He was manipulated and used like a tool. Itachi being so young probably thought he was doing the right thing at the time. The children and subordinates put trust in their elders and leaders because they (the young/subordinates) cannot see all ends or grasp the magnitude of every decision. Itachi even admitted he failed. Given the miserable end Itachi met with; dying of sickness and killed by his own brother. There was no glamour in Itachi's post-massacre life.

Whilst its true Itachi and Shisui were mere tools, they still had an understanding of what they were doing, they weren't mindless puppets and yet they still continued to fulfill their orders. What does that tell you? Tells you that the Uchiha clan were in the wrong in this instance for attempting to coup. Even

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was determined not to tarnish the Uchiha clan's name.

 

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Then you already know that the end result would've been the Uchiha clan wiped out anyway, either through Itachi & Obito or through fight against the whole Leaf. But the latter would have caused casualties both sides, which the Hokage and the Elders were trying to prevent.





Whilst its true Itachi and Shisui were mere tools, they still had an understanding of what they were doing, they weren't mindless puppets and yet they still continued to fulfill their orders. What does that tell you? Tells you that the Uchiha clan were in the wrong in this instance for attempting to coup. Even

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was determined not to tarnish the Uchiha clan's name.

Did leaf elders try to prevent massacre.NOPE
@bolded fails after itachi admitted that he should have tried other approach and he admitted he failed.
U don't even try to measures
1.Give equality to ur citizens
2.Trying to negotiate if there is problem
then orders massacre.
It becomes hilarious if some tries to justify it when one of the main's taking decision on massacre performs exact same scenario on the village for which he ordered massacre

 

[-immortal-]

its because of Danzo so i think its should've have happend U_U.

The uchiha's did nothing wrong witht he village but get alot of hate for no reason.

if they would've attacked the village it would be the right thing to do.

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

yes, such people who want more power than they already have at the cost of other civilians are better off dead

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not only are they are greedy bastards who are doing this for power but they are also pissing on the sacrifices that other clans have made over the years to protect konoha

 

[silmarill]

They were terrorists who threatened the lives of our every day normal human.
I know most of u don't care about them because normal civilians don't get panel time so fuk them right ? ..

Something had to be done

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Did leaf elders try to prevent massacre.NOPE
@bolded fails after itachi admitted that he should have tried other approach and he admitted he failed.
U don't even try to measures
1.Give equality to ur citizens
2.Trying to negotiate if there is problem
then orders massacre.
It becomes hilarious if some tries to justify it when one of the main's taking decision on massacre performs exact same scenario on the village for which he ordered massacre

He failed as in for not being able to change the minds of his

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plan of the coup, and also failed as in failed in telling Sasuke the truth in the beginning. He never said he should've tried a different approach.

As for the Leaf not trying to prevent the massacre because the Uchihas were bent on making the coup happen regardless. This was why

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tried to stop it from happening in the first place. U_U

 

[closecombat1254]

????????
What do u think massacre is some kind of joke.
Leave thar fanbase logic in trash bin.

Look at all the trouble case BY 1 uchia kid 1
Add 50 more and 9 with ms

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

Yes Minato was @$$hole that he got fodderized by tobi and kyuubi leading massacre
This is also how the scenario works when u justify massacre becoz of ur biased hate for fictional drawings

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derp, this isnt me constructing some scenario, this is manga calling out the uchihas for what they are

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but you dont care how many bystanders die as long as uchihas are able to rule over konoha?

biased?

>calls minato who sacrificed his life for the village an "@$$hole", my god I wonder how you treat the soldiers who protect your homeland
>claims minato got "fodderized", when not only he made tobi run but also nullified all of kyuubi's attacks even sealing him when he had close to zero chakra?

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>claims minato is responsible for massacre

derp de derp, the uchiha clan is so incompetent fools that they cannot talk out their issues with hiruzen even when hiruzen was more than willingly to do so?

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sit down kid

 

[BLAZE]

They were terrorists who threatened the lives of our every day normal human.
I know most of u don't care about them because normal civilians don't get panel time so fuk them right ? ..

Something had to be done

Read the thread bruh

He failed as in for not being able to change the minds of his

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plan of the coup, and also failed as in failed in telling Sasuke the truth in the beginning. He never said he should've tried a different approach.

As for the Leaf not trying to prevent the massacre because the Uchihas were bent on making the coup happen regardless. This was why

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tried to stop it from happening in the first place. U_U

Failed is keyword here.
He told sasuke if he should have not ignored sasuke younger genrations like him would have influenced thoughts of older genration like fugaku.
Still it still proves itachi could have tried other approach but he didn't and performed massacre on warning of danzo before hiruzen can negotiate
Uchiha's coup arises from the segregation forced by leaders of the village and one of them involved tries the same approach.Oh and it's danzo.

 

[NukaCola]

It was that or go to war.

 

[take it easy]

they doesn't want peaceful way to solve problem... so yes.

 

[BLAZE]

Look at all the trouble case BY 1 uchia kid 1
Add 50 more and 9 with ms

Dude do u have goverment,laws and order s in ur country to stop son of crimnal to become a respectable citzen of country.

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derp, this isnt me constructing some scenario, this is manga calling out the uchihas for what they are

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but you dont care how many bystanders die as long as uchihas are able to rule over konoha?

biased?

>calls minato who sacrificed his life for the village an "@$$hole", my god I wonder how you treat the soldiers who protect your homeland
>claims minato got "fodderized", when not only he made tobi run but also nullified all of kyuubi's attacks even sealing him when he had close to zero chakra?

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>claims minato is responsible for massacre

derp de derp, the uchiha clan is so incompetent fools that they cannot talk out their issues with hiruzen even when hiruzen was more than willingly to do so?

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sit down kid

U completely proved my point.
see diff btn the material given to support massacre and bandwagon minato.
i m minato fan btw
what u did is perfect exaple of what incompetent foolish kid does
so sit down biased bandwagoner.
Gives the scan when obito tries to play gamble in sasuke's emotions confliting him to take a path that aids him.smh

they doesn't want peaceful way to solve problem... so yes.

Whole damn clan Spacey just not the culprits

 

[closecombat1254]

Did leaf elders try to prevent massacre.NOPE
@bolded fails after itachi admitted that he should have tried other approach and he admitted he failed.
U don't even try to measures
1.Give equality to ur citizens
2.Trying to negotiate if there is problem
then orders massacre.
It becomes hilarious if some tries to justify it when one of the main's taking decision on massacre performs exact same scenario on the village for which he ordered massacre

they were suspected of being dangerous and suspected only and were being watch only doesn't justify war

 

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they were suspected of being dangerous and suspected only and were being watch only doesn't justify war

segregated to village's corner after kyuubi's attack.

 

[Torche]

segregated to village's corner after kyuubi's attack.

Just goes to show that Konoha isn't all "I love everyone!" as they claim Lol

 

[BLAZE]

Just goes to show that Konoha isn't all "I love everyone!" as they claim Lol

Hilarious $#!t is people saying
i save thousand people by killing 50 people's with 15-20 criminals when i might have tried a a different approach and saved many lives but i completely blinded myself for that one approch.
But i did it either way so justified.
Pathetic

 

[Torche]

Hilarious $#!t is people saying
i save thousand people by killing 50 people's with 15-20 criminals when i might have tried a a different approach and saved many lives but i completely blinded myself for that one approch.
But i did it either way so justified.
Pathetic

Yeah. Also made a 13 year old boy kill his family in cold blood and become a criminal. Granted that it was Itachi's decision to go rogue, and be the one to commit the massacre, but I'm sure if absolutely necessary, Hiruzen could have forced him to stay and not kill his family. I mean, what kind of person would let a 13 year old go out on his own, even if he is skilled, after murdering his own family. That's ****ed, the poor kid shoulda had a break. On another note, the whole thing could have been stopped if Hiruzen labelled Itachi his successor in a few years.

 

[BLAZE]

Yeah. Also made a 13 year old boy kill his family in cold blood and become a criminal. Granted that it was Itachi's decision to go rogue, and be the one to commit the massacre, but I'm sure if absolutely necessary, Hiruzen could have forced him to stay and not kill his family. I mean, what kind of person would let a 13 year old go out on his own, even if he is skilled, after murdering his own family. That's ****ed, the poor kid shoulda had a break. On another note, the whole thing could have been stopped if Hiruzen labelled Itachi his successor in a few years.

Why shouldn't people says massacre is justified becoz itachi has hokage mindset at age of 7 and hiruzen screwed many things.
By there logic this is perfect case that they can agree on.