The Uchiha Clan Could've taken over Konoha

[ItachiSan03]

shisui most likely would not fight as he fought for the village like itaichi and its not about if they succeeded it is about not wanting a war as im not sure if they could achieve what you say but they would be in a cival war and who knows when that would end so dont just think becasuse the village took action to prevent it that they did it out of concern that the uchiha would take over but to keep peace in the village as tobi said that it would spur other villages to attack also weakening the village the only way the uchiha could take down the village is going about it as itaichi did to them by assignation of the top dogs but ultimately i think they could not succeed as they overestimate there name and the fact that two of the best uchiha fight for the village

Yeah the uchiha wouldnt have actually taken over the village, but they wouldve caused a lot of trouble and turmoil making the village weak.

 

[Blunt]

Wow, nice information good thread.

 

[TiddlySkydiver]

Itachi, Shisui, and Tobi wouldn't have helped the Uchiha clan take over. Even if they did they would have lost, and without them the Uchiha clan wouldn't have a chance in hell.

 

[TobisPawn]

I'll read this later.

 

[warlee]

Konoha shinobi force is around 20thousand plus and this is before oro invasion and pain invasion so they should be more than this, the uchiha are not more than 50 or let xagerate and say 100. Dnt see how they are winning

 

[Kratos of cruxis]

It could have worked but I doubt they would have destroyed the leaf

 

[warlee]

Xpectin your reply blaze

 

[Blaze Release]

Konoha shinobi force is around 20thousand plus and this is before oro invasion and pain invasion so they should be more than this, the uchiha are not more than 50 or let xagerate and say 100. Dnt see how they are winning

If you read the op you'd notice that i didnt include or estimate the population of the village or uchiha clan because nobody has this info. I did however upload the link where itachi said the clan hasnt decreased meaning the population of the uchiha clan is more or less the same as during madara's time, so where you got 50 to 100 from is beyond me.

Secondly it was a coup, a surprise attack in such a scenario numbers doesnt really matter. Itachi and tobi slaughtered the clan unexpectedly. Pein and konan (7 people), wrecked havoc unexpectedly.

 

[warlee]

If you read the op you'd notice that i didnt include or estimate the population of the village or uchiha clan because nobody has this info. I did however upload the link where itachi said the clan hasnt decreased meaning the population of the uchiha clan is more or less the same as during madara's time, so where you got 50 to 100 from is beyond me.

Secondly it was a coup, a surprise attack in such a scenario numbers doesnt really matter. Itachi and tobi slaughtered the clan unexpectedly. Pein and konan (7 people), wrecked havoc unexpectedly.

are u comparin the destructive force of pain to the uchiha? And tell me how many do you think are the uchiha's give me an estimate.and they are all slaughterd in not more than 6 hours. Do you know how many clan are they in konoha plus other shinobi who didn't belong to a clan. Are the uchiha even the most populated clan? How many of them awaken the sharingan? How much is the fightin force all this are what you need to consider before makin the thread. They may shake konoha but they can't win

 

[Blaze Release]

are u comparin the destructive force of pain to the uchiha? And tell me how many do you think are the uchiha's give me an estimate.and they are all slaughterd in not more than 6 hours. Do you know how many clan are they in konoha plus other shinobi who didn't belong to a clan. Are the uchiha even the most populated clan? How many of them awaken the sharingan? How much is the fightin force all this are what you need to consider before makin the thread. They may shake konoha but they can't win

Didnt compare the destructive force of pain to the uchiha although going by their hype its a reasonable comparison. The reason why i stated pein was because you said the clan was no more than 100 and i had to remind you that in an unexpected attack numbers do not truly matter.

The highlighted part, i dont believe i said they will win unless you can upload a post from me. Massive difference between Could and would

 

[Owarij]

They would have taken over, If shishui had his ms available, He could ka any strong important shinobi to fight for their side.. such as the third or kakashi..


The village owuld have been in an utter mess however.. totally destroyed from war..

And if the strongest village was in that state

there is NO DOUBT, a war would start....Wars start from ANY imbalance in the villages..

The third kazekage ALONE dying , Caused the fourth great ninja war.... The strongest village having a civil war would start that IMMEDIATELY....

With weakened forces , The uchiha would eventually be defeated.....Tobi would take naruto in all the chaos lol, etc etc

in the end they would have killed themselves out... They wouldn't be able to fight off a war themselves... and they already lost people in the civil war.. so there isn't really anything they could do.... any of the villages would slaughter them, Especially when villages had jinchurikis like yagura etc to fight...

 

[warlee]

Didnt compare the destructive force of pain to the uchiha although going by their hype its a reasonable comparison. The reason why i stated pein was because you said the clan was no more than 100 and i had to remind you that in an unexpected attack numbers do not truly matter.

The highlighted part, i dont believe i said they will win unless you can upload a post from me. Massive difference between Could and would

no their destructive power can't be compared to pain at all, the sand + sound alliance couldn't destroy konoha and i'm sure they are stronger than the uchiha clan and pain can raise his hand and crush konoha the uchiha can't, pain can summon gedo and let it destroy konoha and the uchiha clan have no chance of winnin at all they can't destroy konoha

 

[Blaze Release]

no their destructive power can't be compared to pain at all, the sand + sound alliance couldn't destroy konoha and i'm sure they are stronger than the uchiha clan and pain can raise his hand and crush konoha the uchiha can't, pain can summon gedo and let it destroy konoha and the uchiha clan have no chance of winnin at all they can't destroy konoha

Konoha had a heads up, when they were notified of oro's presence and deployed anbu around the village and even they still created trouble. Secondly going by the manga and databook, the uchiha clan's power can be compared with pain's whether you believe it or not. the highlighted part, nobody is saying this.

Anyway moving on U_U

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

makes you wonder what the hell happened to senju clan if the uchiha still had so much members.

The uchiha killed secretly killed them in the first ninja war and helped kill the second hokage aswell.. Im jokin but the best bet is they died around the 1st great ninja war times as it was a devastating war.

 

[Naruto the wind]

We dont know how many ninjas konaha forces had(without uchihas) and not every one of uchihas notstrong or posseser of ms. Their are lot well skilled ninjas in konaha side too including senju and hyuga etc even the uchiha started civil war both side suffered huge number of causulties and it led to the enemy country to attack take over whole land of fire anyways thats theonly end game i could think of

 

[Naruto the wind]

And it caused no good for konaha or uchihas .picking the clear victor in this is impossible

 

[warlee]

Konoha had a heads up, when they were notified of oro's presence and deployed anbu around the village and even they still created trouble. Secondly going by the manga and databook, the uchiha clan's power can be compared with pain's whether you believe it or not. the highlighted part, nobody is saying this.

Anyway moving on U_U

before you move on can u tell me how the uchiha clan are comparable in destructive force to pain? And which manga page say so

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Anyway the most important piece of information in this thread was that it was an assassination and it took place at night.

Probably minimal fighting took place, itachi knew his way around more then anyone, the uchiha didn't expect to get assassinated in their own village no clan would, they didn't know the village knew about their plans, itachi anbu leader at 13,let's not even get in to tobi's abilities, the list goes on and on with why the uchiha massacre was successful.

 

[Blaze Release]

How can i upload all the manga links and databook and yet he asks me this, reason why i dont bother anymore

 

[warlee]

Please correct yourself i didn't get what you are trying to say @blaze