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The two FORGOTTEN KKG/Genetic Abilities of the Uchiha and the Hyuga -- Susanoo and GF
So we ALL know that the Databooks are sometime inaccurate in forgetting certain KKGs, moves, affinities, etc...
The Laziness also extends to balancing future point rankings and scaling since end game characters in speed/taijutsu/etc... are beyond the so called 5/5 part 1 rankings.
But I digress.
This thread is about something else that people tend to forget. The two genetically abilities from two dojutsu clans that rely on their said dojutsu to awaken it but don't require the said dojutsu to use it in the future.
This are abilities that are known and spammed about in multiple discussion but unfortunately poorly understood when it comes to it's requirements.
What do I mean by this?
Well first let us look at the Uchiha.
So the Uchiha are known primarily for their dojutsu the Sharingan.
The Uchiha awaken the Sharingan and go through three primary stages before ascending to MS.
Once they unlock the MS they have a ton of abilities at their wake, but one particular feature stands high above the rest and that is the SUSANOO
Once the legendary Susanoo is awakened it too goes through stages before it becomes a PERFECT Susanoo, sometimes not seeing its perfect form until the user overused their MS and proceeded to switch out their old eyes for a new light the EMS.
But here is when we see something that is usually unnoticed. After unlocking the MS the user may also awaken the Susanoo.
Usually talked about as the third power.
I mean the Databook and wikis don't mention it as a KKG but NO ONE other then the UCHIHA can do a Susanoo
The closets thing is a chakra avatar but Susanoo is something else entirely.
This is were I get to the POINT of this THREAD. Once unlocking the Susanoo the Uchiha has no need of the sharingan in order to use it.
We learnt that the Uchiha awaken the Sharingan via their brain releasing a special chakra.
But after meeting the requirements of having MS which enables the User to use Susanoo the Uchiha user can still use the Susanoo while not having any Sharingans in thier eye sockets.
As seen when Madara got revived.
This also means that each Susanoo is special per each Uchiha user. Hence why when Sasuke did EMS with Itachi's eyes he did not have Itachi's Yata mirror Susanoo.
And in some case it also explains why Itachi and Sasuke being nearly blind could STILL use their respective Susanoo's.
But you are probably asking as to how Kakashi got to use Obito's Susanoo if it was about the Uchiha user himself and not his eyes that are needed to use Susanoo after its MS awakening.
Some may argue that when Kakashi got both of Obitio's MS temporary then it was enough to justify the use of Susanoo and that if ANY user stole some MSs' that unlocked Susanoo before, they could also be able to use it.
That is a misunderstanding.
The REAL reason as two why Kakashi was able to do so was because Obito's own spirit and conscious was inside Kakashi, hence he received the necessary brain/mind/chakra requirements in order to use it.
Which means that no non Uchiha would be able to use Susanoo with borrowed MS eyes without having in some way that Uchiha's consciousness/brain.
and I don't mean chakra since some chakra does come with the Sharingan eyes as seen via Danzou.
So YES that means that if theoretically Sasuke gave his MS eyes to Sumire out of nostalgia of remembering his past, she would not have his Susanoo.
That will also mean that no FUTURE Uchiha would have a Susanoo like their predecessor, unless that person is a reincarnation of that old Uchiha.
Like Sasuke being Indra's reincarnation and being able to use Indra's ARROW.
Therefore the Susanoo is basically its own jutsu/KKG that is added to the Uchiha genetic arsenal.
SO BE GRATEFUL UCHIHA! You can take the Susanoo to the GRAVE. 
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Now to the Hyuga.
Exactly like the Susanoo the Hyuga have a genetic/jutsu that is barred to only their ancestral make up.
When the Hyuga eventually unlock the Byakugan by what ever means they also unlock the ability to use Gentle Fist.
Now don't be confused (Like a bunch usually are) with the taijutsu style the Gentle Fist.
What I mean is the genetical ability to release chakra from any point and have that chakra be able to seal, destroy, boost, etc... a users and themselves chakra network.
With conjunction of the Byakugan's insight to see the Chakra network, the Hyuga merged the two abilities in one by connecting the two with a martial style called the Gentle Fist.
The KKG that is used with conjunction of the byakugan actually has no name and the abilities itself is showcased via other byakugan genetic users. (Note I say genetic users instead of just byakugan users but I will explain that soon enough.)
So I will call it "GF" and the taijutsu arts that is learnt to use it "Gentle Fist".
Like the Susanoo needed a MS awakening trigger to eventually use it (even without having the sharingan anymore in your body) the GF shared a similar awakening.
When Himawari awoken the Byakugan at the Age of Three she also awakened the ability to use GF.
Even though she did not ever learn the Gentle Fist fighting style just seconds after awakening her eyes she was able to seal chakra points effectively.
This is also AGAIN expressed in Itachi Shiden with a individual far down the Hyuga tree that only awakened a byakugan via one eye (due to having mixed genes, barely any Hyuga blood left in his family).
Still even though he wasn't part of the clan he was still able to use the GF and self taught himself even the Gentle Fist style. All be it a weaker one.
Reference:
This is later concluded that the GF is a genetic based ability when we see a user with a similar one eye byakugan scenario from another village not being able to do GF do to the fact that his eye was implanted and stolen.
On the topic of Boruto himself could do it though there are two factors to consider.
1. He is half Hyuga and a Pure half no less so like his sister his potiential of having both "KKG"/Genes is there
2. He might've just learnt the Gentle Fist Fighting style from Hanabi and his Mother (like How Hanabi said that he was slacking on his Gentle Fist training at home.)
This means that he doesn't have the chakra abilities like his sister but he can fight with that said style without doing the said abilities.
3. He knows how to do it but he can't hit chakra points, etc... because he is missing the other piece of the puzzle the byakugan.
Any way thank you for getting this far in the OP.
Here is your REWARD:
So we ALL know that the Databooks are sometime inaccurate in forgetting certain KKGs, moves, affinities, etc...
Gentle Fist is a KKG. I'm not going to bother bringing up the databooks, since they have so many errors in them, like not listing Zetsu as a Wood user, not listing Obito as a Rikudo Chakra user, and not listing Uzumaki Chains as a KKG, but it's more than apparent that it is based on Himawari using it as soon as she got Byakugan (while Bolt is unable to do so due to having no Byakugan).
The Laziness also extends to balancing future point rankings and scaling since end game characters in speed/taijutsu/etc... are beyond the so called 5/5 part 1 rankings.
But I digress.
This thread is about something else that people tend to forget. The two genetically abilities from two dojutsu clans that rely on their said dojutsu to awaken it but don't require the said dojutsu to use it in the future.
This are abilities that are known and spammed about in multiple discussion but unfortunately poorly understood when it comes to it's requirements.
What do I mean by this?
Well first let us look at the Uchiha.
So the Uchiha are known primarily for their dojutsu the Sharingan.
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The Uchiha awaken the Sharingan and go through three primary stages before ascending to MS.
You must be registered for see images
Once they unlock the MS they have a ton of abilities at their wake, but one particular feature stands high above the rest and that is the SUSANOO
Once the legendary Susanoo is awakened it too goes through stages before it becomes a PERFECT Susanoo, sometimes not seeing its perfect form until the user overused their MS and proceeded to switch out their old eyes for a new light the EMS.
But here is when we see something that is usually unnoticed. After unlocking the MS the user may also awaken the Susanoo.
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Usually talked about as the third power.
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I mean the Databook and wikis don't mention it as a KKG but NO ONE other then the UCHIHA can do a Susanoo
The closets thing is a chakra avatar but Susanoo is something else entirely.
This is were I get to the POINT of this THREAD. Once unlocking the Susanoo the Uchiha has no need of the sharingan in order to use it.
If this only applies to having a PS or not is unknown but we saw Madara go through the stages, nevertheless.
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We learnt that the Uchiha awaken the Sharingan via their brain releasing a special chakra.
This trigger can also be what later unlocks the Susanoo.You must be registered for see images
But after meeting the requirements of having MS which enables the User to use Susanoo the Uchiha user can still use the Susanoo while not having any Sharingans in thier eye sockets.
As seen when Madara got revived.
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This also means that each Susanoo is special per each Uchiha user. Hence why when Sasuke did EMS with Itachi's eyes he did not have Itachi's Yata mirror Susanoo.
You must be registered for see images
And in some case it also explains why Itachi and Sasuke being nearly blind could STILL use their respective Susanoo's.
But you are probably asking as to how Kakashi got to use Obito's Susanoo if it was about the Uchiha user himself and not his eyes that are needed to use Susanoo after its MS awakening.
Some may argue that when Kakashi got both of Obitio's MS temporary then it was enough to justify the use of Susanoo and that if ANY user stole some MSs' that unlocked Susanoo before, they could also be able to use it.
That is a misunderstanding.
The REAL reason as two why Kakashi was able to do so was because Obito's own spirit and conscious was inside Kakashi, hence he received the necessary brain/mind/chakra requirements in order to use it.
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Which means that no non Uchiha would be able to use Susanoo with borrowed MS eyes without having in some way that Uchiha's consciousness/brain.
and I don't mean chakra since some chakra does come with the Sharingan eyes as seen via Danzou.
You must be registered for see images
So YES that means that if theoretically Sasuke gave his MS eyes to Sumire out of nostalgia of remembering his past, she would not have his Susanoo.
You must be registered for see images
That will also mean that no FUTURE Uchiha would have a Susanoo like their predecessor, unless that person is a reincarnation of that old Uchiha.
Like Sasuke being Indra's reincarnation and being able to use Indra's ARROW.
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Therefore the Susanoo is basically its own jutsu/KKG that is added to the Uchiha genetic arsenal.
SO BE GRATEFUL UCHIHA! You can take the Susanoo to the GRAVE.

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Now to the Hyuga.
Exactly like the Susanoo the Hyuga have a genetic/jutsu that is barred to only their ancestral make up.
When the Hyuga eventually unlock the Byakugan by what ever means they also unlock the ability to use Gentle Fist.
Now don't be confused (Like a bunch usually are) with the taijutsu style the Gentle Fist.
What I mean is the genetical ability to release chakra from any point and have that chakra be able to seal, destroy, boost, etc... a users and themselves chakra network.
With conjunction of the Byakugan's insight to see the Chakra network, the Hyuga merged the two abilities in one by connecting the two with a martial style called the Gentle Fist.
The KKG that is used with conjunction of the byakugan actually has no name and the abilities itself is showcased via other byakugan genetic users. (Note I say genetic users instead of just byakugan users but I will explain that soon enough.)
So I will call it "GF" and the taijutsu arts that is learnt to use it "Gentle Fist".
Like the Susanoo needed a MS awakening trigger to eventually use it (even without having the sharingan anymore in your body) the GF shared a similar awakening.
When Himawari awoken the Byakugan at the Age of Three she also awakened the ability to use GF.
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Even though she did not ever learn the Gentle Fist fighting style just seconds after awakening her eyes she was able to seal chakra points effectively.
You must be registered for see images
This is also AGAIN expressed in Itachi Shiden with a individual far down the Hyuga tree that only awakened a byakugan via one eye (due to having mixed genes, barely any Hyuga blood left in his family).
Still even though he wasn't part of the clan he was still able to use the GF and self taught himself even the Gentle Fist style. All be it a weaker one.
Reference:
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This is later concluded that the GF is a genetic based ability when we see a user with a similar one eye byakugan scenario from another village not being able to do GF do to the fact that his eye was implanted and stolen.
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On the topic of Boruto himself could do it though there are two factors to consider.
1. He is half Hyuga and a Pure half no less so like his sister his potiential of having both "KKG"/Genes is there
2. He might've just learnt the Gentle Fist Fighting style from Hanabi and his Mother (like How Hanabi said that he was slacking on his Gentle Fist training at home.)
This means that he doesn't have the chakra abilities like his sister but he can fight with that said style without doing the said abilities.
AN EXAMPLE of the DIFFERENCE
USING REAL GF
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NOT USING REAL GF
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USING
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NOT USING
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3. He knows how to do it but he can't hit chakra points, etc... because he is missing the other piece of the puzzle the byakugan.
Anyway in conclusion BOTH abilities are separate jutsu that are based of DNA of each CLAN
They can not be copied and they can not be as easily taken by just stealing the Clan's dojutsu.
What you would have to do is take some DNA as well.
and that is something for Orochimaru to decide :Sparks:They can not be copied and they can not be as easily taken by just stealing the Clan's dojutsu.
What you would have to do is take some DNA as well.
Any way thank you for getting this far in the OP.
Here is your REWARD:
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