The Truth of Truth Seeker Orbs

[Jokule67]

I just reread chapters and realized that the ongoing MYTH that Truth Seeker Orbs dont automatically erase Ninjutsu is false. It has always erased ninjutsu even before Obito gained control over the Juubi.

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All this is automatic. It may not negate Ninjutsu through YinYang(only arguement that can be made) But through a makeup similar to Jinton but far superior, it negates ninjutsu.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I think the juubi level is different from naruto's Because naruto's tsb didn't erase limbo hengoku

 

[Guntah]

The Truth of the Truth Seeker Orbs is that the Truth Seeker Orbs Seek Truth. :bdpf:

 

[Punk Hazard]

It didn't negate Ninjutsu as much as blow through them. It didn't start truly negating Ninjutsu until Juubito went Super Juubi 2.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Thanks for Sharing.

But I dont think it Negate Ninjutsu there but atomize it(Shuriken jutsu) and put a hole on it(Susanoo)

 

[Pyro NB]

I would say negate as it doesn't stop them from happening but more like annihilate all non-SoSP jutsu.

 

[Jokule67]

I think the juubi level is different from naruto's Because naruto's tsb didn't erase limbo hengoku

Six Paths Senjutsu is immune to Omnyoudou

 

[Jokule67]

Thanks for Sharing.

But I dont think it Negate Ninjutsu there but atomize it(Shuriken jutsu) and put a hole on it(Susanoo)

"Turns all ninjutsu into nothing". Yes its atomizing.

Also Obito changed the shape to slice through the shuriken. Its says it in the scan.

 

[Ansatsuken]

"Turns all ninjutsu into nothing". Yes its atomizing.

Also Obito changed the shape to slice through the shuriken. Its says it in the scan.

Atomizing not mean it Negating

You can atomizing something but if that thing can regenerate, it will unless you negate(nullify) their ability to regenerate back like Omnyodon.

It atomize Hiruzen's Ninjutsu body but bcus Yin-Yang cancelling power still not active, it couldnt nullify the Ninjutsu.

Open up your mind to broader meaning and understanding then you can understand

Atomizing =/= Negating

Negating mean stop something from occur, neutralize it.

Erase mean turn something into Nothing. Even single atom couldnt and wont exist.

Does chakra have Atom?

Find a dictionary

I will stay out from this kind of discussion unless people learn the basic.

 

[Michael]

Nice thread, however I've been telling people gudodama were haxxed since the beginning. They are literally all elements/kkg in one little orb.

 

[SenseiSama]

There's two aspects to TSB

1st one is they can use dust release, but depending on the material the atomization isn't instant as we saw with Kaguya's ice


2nd one is they can negate ninjutsu with Onmyoudon, this only works on things made of chakra and Senjutsu is immune to it

 

[The Necromancer]

Onmyoudon is not a passive technique.

Gudoudamas erase matter, the same as Jinton, which is why they could destroy Hiruzen's body and shuriken, but without Onmyoudon, he was able to reform, just as every Edo does, because the regeneration factor of Edo Tensei was not negated, as it was with Minato after Obito and Madara were able to use Onmyoudon within their Gudoudamas.

 

[Jokule67]

Atomizing not mean it Negating

You can atomizing something but if that thing can regenerate, it will unless you negate(nullify) their ability to regenerate back like Omnyodon.

It atomize Hiruzen's Ninjutsu body but bcus Yin-Yang cancelling power still not active, it couldnt nullify the Ninjutsu.

Open up your mind to broader meaning and understanding then you can understand

Atomizing =/= Negating

Negating mean stop something from occur, neutralizer it.

Erase mean turn something into Nothing. Even single atom couldnt and wont exist.

Does chakra have Atom?

Find a dictionary

I will stay out from this kind of discussion unless people learn the basic.

First off your grammar could be improved.

I understand what that means. I even implemented this point of view into the post all the way at the bottom if you read that far down. I understand the difference clearly.

 

[The Necromancer]

First off your grammar could be improved.

I understand what that means. I even implemented this point of view into the post all the way at the bottom if you read that far down. I understand the difference clearly.

So your new argument is that Obito can negate jutsus with his Gudoudamas, and then can also negate jutsus with Onmyoudon?

Because that's pretty dumb.

 

[Jokule67]

Onmyoudon is not a passive technique.

Gudoudamas erase matter, the same as Jinton, which is why they could destroy Hiruzen's body and shuriken, but without Onmyoudon, he was able to reform, just as every Edo does, because the regeneration factor of Edo Tensei was not negated, as it was with Minato after Obito and Madara were able to use Onmyoudon within their Gudoudamas.

I know this. My point was that Obito did this wothout even knowing it. He was literally posing himself. Ince he gained sense of Self Omnyoudou was automatic.

Many believe Naruto's is different and incapable of this.Omnyoudou is a subjutsu of TSB. They are not different. Naruto is wven listed as a User and has utilized the TSB in even new ways Madara and Obito havent done themselves.

 

[The Necromancer]

I know this. My point was that Obito did this wothout even knowing it. He was literally posing himself. Ince he gained sense of Self Omnyoudou was automatic.

Many believe Naruto's is different and incapable of this.Omnyoudou is a subjutsu of TSB. They are not different. Naruto is wven listed as a User and has utilized the TSB in even new ways Madara and Obito havent done themselves.

The very fact that Hiruzen regenerated while Minato did not is proof against your argument.

It's very clearly demonstrated in the manga.

 

[Ansatsuken]

First off your grammar could be improved.

I understand what that means. I even implemented this point of view into the post all the way at the bottom if you read that far down. I understand the difference clearly.

Put aside Grammar concern

You said you know what it mean but you still used word "Negating" there.

Its not about Grammar, its all about your comprehension.

-That TSB not negating Edo Hiruzen's regeneration ability but it atomize his Edo Body(a Ninjutsu). As Edo a Ninjutsu have an ability to regenerate back.

Omnyodon can nullify it.

 

[Jokule67]

So your new argument is that Obito can negate jutsus with his Gudoudamas, and then can also negate jutsus with Onmyoudon?

Because that's pretty dumb.

No I was thinking that it always negated ninjutsu. However I am well aware that Hiruzen Regenerated and said that is the sole arguemwnt against my original claim.

My point is that the Goudodama automatically negate(turns things into nothing) whether through yingyang or higher form jinton. Its right there I already said all this.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

The fact that Hiruzen is still alive is more than enough to show that it doesn't completely negate Ninjutsu, since after he gained control, he could permanently disarm Minato. At most, they're disintegrating everything they touch, including Ninjutsu before he gains control.

 

[The Necromancer]

No I was thinking that it always negated ninjutsu. However I am well aware that Hiruzen Regenerated and said that is the sole arguemwnt against my original claim.

My point is that the Goudodama automatically negate(turns things into nothing) whether through yingyang or higher form jinton. Its right there I already said all this.

That is not negating ninjutsu... :|

Does a Suiton Jutsu negate a Katon Jutsu?
Did Jinton negate Nativity of World Trees?
Did Sasuke's Chidori negate Naruto's Shadow Clone?