The Truth about the Strength of the Various Hokage

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With the release on chapter 575 and Kabuto's statement regarding Hashirama's strength and all the buzz that Hashirama MUST be greater than everyone, here's the truth about the strength we know about the 3 most hailed of the Hokage line.

Hiruzen Sarutobi is factually the most powerful Hokage. In the first databook alone, this is stated at least three times (translations by ShounenSuki from Narutopedia):

Page 117: "He is such a genius ninja that he was even called the 'Professor', and he still garners everyone's respect as the strongest Hokage in history." (「„プロフェッサー”と呼ばれたほどの天才忍者であり、歴代最強の火影として皆の尊敬を集め続ける。」, "'Purofessā' to yobareta hodo no tensai ninja de ari, rekidai saikyō no Hokage toshite mina no sonkei o atsume tsuzukeru")

Page 119: "'Strongest in history', 'genius', et cetera, the words used to describe the Third Hokage are filled with respect." (「„歴代最強”„天才”など、三代目火影を形容する言葉は賞賛に満ちている。」, "'Rekidai saikyō' 'tensai' nado, Sandaime Hokage o keiyōsuru kotoba wa shōsan ni michite iru.")

Page 265: "The Third is called the strongest, even among the past Hokage, and he is even admired as the 'God of Shinobi'." (「三代目は歴代火影の中でも最強と言われ、„忍の神”と謳われたことも。」, "Sandaime wa rekidai Hokage no naka demo saikyō to iware, 'Shinobi no Kami' to utawareta koto mo")

Similar statements are made in the other two databooks as well.

Hashirama was regarded as the most powerful shinobi in the world in his life, and Kabuto said that no currently living shinobi was on his level, with his supposed strength being regarded by many as much of a myth as the Sage of the Six Paths was. Part of the reason he was hailed as the strongest was his unique ability to control Tailed Beasts perfectly, even multiple ones at once.
The Hashirama that we saw in Part 1 as an Edo wasn't exactly Hashirama fighting. Orochimaru destroyed his mind to make him "a mindless killing machine", taking control of the 1st himself, so I don't think that should be taken as a representation of his abilities.


Minato's power is a bit murkier, a bit less defined. In chapter 158, Jiraiya said that Minato had the potential to become the strongest ninja in history (which includes Hiruzen obviously), to which Tsunade agreed, but he died before that potential was fully realized. A stated in chapter 541 that he was someone he thought would never be surpassed.

Anyway, Hiruzen > Minato & > Hashirama as far as Kishimoto is concerned.
He wasn't called the "God of Shinobi" for nothing

As for Hashirama vs. Minato, I think we've seen far too little of them both and the scope of their respective skill sets to compare them to each other. Minato in particular, seeing as he died in his 20s and we never got to see him pressured by his opponents in the small skirmishes we've seen him in. There certainly are very few single shinobi in history that can pressure him, if even A & B together couldn't do so.

Perhaps we'll get to see a Gaiden for these two characters from Kishimoto in the future to see what they're really capable of. I really hope so anyway.
 
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I think it's extremely close between Hiruzen and Hashirama. I've always thought this, not just influenced by the recent chapter. One of the greatest statements ever made about Hiruzen, IMO at least, was when Kabuto said he was the strongest among of all the kages at the time of his death.. and that's at the age of 69.

I hope, at some point, we can get some more info on the first 3 hokages. I'm really interested in seeing more of Tobirama as well. Seeing Hiruzen in his prime would be a treat, as would seeing the entire Madara/Hashirama fight.
 

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wall of text kind of long...so lazy want to read but lazy...
 

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Your stupid?....Hashirama > Minato > Hiruzen
what your doing is just recalling facts that support hiruzen being admired and respected...which every hokage has gotten seveeral mentions. Him being called a professor means nothing besides the fact that hes skilled in various assorts of jutsu. Hashirama on the other hand has done feats that we HAVE seen. We HAVE NOT seen Hiruzen defeat any powerful enemy as of now. Minato has BEATEN Tobi, even though he didn't kill he forced him to retreat and stall his Plan.
Your being very literal with the words and remember what characters say is not neccessarily true...
 

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Your stupid?....Hashirama > Minato > Hiruzen
what your doing is just recalling facts that support hiruzen being admired and respected...which every hokage has gotten seveeral mentions. Him being called a professor means nothing besides the fact that hes skilled in various assorts of jutsu. Hashirama on the other hand has done feats that we HAVE seen. We HAVE NOT seen Hiruzen defeat any powerful enemy as of now. Minato has BEATEN Tobi, even though he didn't kill he forced him to retreat and stall his Plan.
Your being very literal with the words and remember what characters say is not neccessarily true...

Apparently you can't read. I'm not "recalling facts", this has been stated in EVERY databook which Kishimoto, the author himself, writes. If you're saying that's incorrect or that by my believing his words over anyone else I'm "being very literal", then I'm just going to have to shake my head at the absurdity.
 
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Very very true but I'm going to have to go with Hashirama here. Everyone wants his cells. He's the only person who could use Wood jutsu naturally(besides Yamato because he was born through Oro's experiments). His cells are so unstable that it needed to be experimented to get the amount surgically put in a person correct. He pretty much sealed 7 of the Bijuus. Sarutobi is a genius and is as strong as he is because he had the opportunity to learn from Hashirama AND Tobirama.

1st = Strongest
2nd = Blood Thirsty
3rd = Professor/Genius
4th = Most Genius/Fastest
5th = Best Political Figure/Best Medical Ninja
6th = Gutsy
 

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Very very true but I'm going to have to go with Hashirama here. Everyone wants his cells. He's the only person who could use Wood jutsu naturally(besides Yamato because he was born through Oro's experiments). His cells are so unstable that it needed to be experimented to get the amount surgically put in a person correct. He pretty much sealed 7 of the Bijuus. Sarutobi is a genius and is as strong as he is because he had the opportunity to learn from Hashirama AND Tobirama.

1st = Strongest
2nd = Blood Thirsty
3rd = Professor/Genius
4th = Most Genius/Fastest
5th = Best Political Figure/Best Medical Ninja
6th = Gutsy

Lmaoo the 2nd was just a scientist if you look at the things he's done, his space time ninjutsu/ w.e it is, Developing edo tensei, a jutsu that pulls souls from the after life which would have required testing on live and dead bodies to makee....creating water jutsu from water in the atmosphere... he gives me a evil scientist feeling xD
 

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Lmaoo the 2nd was just a scientist if you look at the things he's done, his space time ninjutsu/ w.e it is, Developing edo tensei, a jutsu that pulls souls from the after life which would have required testing on live and dead bodies to makee....creating water jutsu from water in the atmosphere... he gives me a evil scientist feeling xD

Yes. A Blood Thirsty Scientist.
 

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Well, he stopped developing Edo Tensei, so he's a reformed Blood-Thirtsy Evil Scientist. xd
 

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With the release on chapter 575 and Kabuto's statement regarding Hashirama's strength and all the buzz that Hashirama MUST be greater than everyone, here's the truth about the strength we know about the 3 most hailed of the Hokage line.

Hiruzen Sarutobi is factually the most powerful Hokage. In the first databook alone, this is stated at least three times (translations by ShounenSuki from Narutopedia):

Page 117: "He is such a genius ninja that he was even called the 'Professor', and he still garners everyone's respect as the strongest Hokage in history." (「„プロフェッサー”と呼ばれたほどの天才忍者であり、歴代最強の火影として皆の尊敬を集め続ける。」, "'Purofessā' to yobareta hodo no tensai ninja de ari, rekidai saikyō no Hokage toshite mina no sonkei o atsume tsuzukeru")

Page 119: "'Strongest in history', 'genius', et cetera, the words used to describe the Third Hokage are filled with respect." (「„歴代最強”„天才”など、三代目火影を形容する言葉は賞賛に満ちている。」, "'Rekidai saikyō' 'tensai' nado, Sandaime Hokage o keiyōsuru kotoba wa shōsan ni michite iru.")

Page 265: "The Third is called the strongest, even among the past Hokage, and he is even admired as the 'God of Shinobi'." (「三代目は歴代火影の中でも最強と言われ、„忍の神”と謳われたことも。」, "Sandaime wa rekidai Hokage no naka demo saikyō to iware, 'Shinobi no Kami' to utawareta koto mo")

Similar statements are made in the other two databooks as well.

Hashirama was regarded as the most powerful shinobi in the world in his life, and Kabuto said that no currently living shinobi was on his level, with his supposed strength being regarded by many as much of a myth as the Sage of the Six Paths was. Part of the reason he was hailed as the strongest was his unique ability to control Tailed Beasts perfectly, even multiple ones at once.
The Hashirama that we saw in Part 1 as an Edo wasn't exactly Hashirama fighting. Orochimaru destroyed his mind to make him "a mindless killing machine", taking control of the 1st himself, so I don't think that should be taken as a representation of his abilities.


Minato's power is a bit murkier, a bit less defined. In chapter 158, Jiraiya said that Minato had the potential to become the strongest ninja in history (which includes Hiruzen obviously), to which Tsunade agreed, but he died before that potential was fully realized. A stated in chapter 541 that he was someone he thought would never be surpassed.

Anyway, Hiruzen > Minato & > Hashirama as far as Kishimoto is concerned.
He wasn't called the "God of Shinobi" for nothing

As for Hashirama vs. Minato, I think we've seen far too little of them both and the scope of their respective skill sets to compare them to each other. Minato in particular, seeing as he died in his 20s and we never got to see him pressured by his opponents in the small skirmishes we've seen him in. There certainly are very few single shinobi in history that can pressure him, if even A & B together couldn't do so.

Perhaps we'll get to see a Gaiden for these two characters from Kishimoto in the future to see what they're really capable of. I really hope so anyway.

+rep but i believe minato>=hiruzen in his prime. since iruka stated that the 3rd hokage was the strongest he said to iruka that dont use past tense. i dont know what he is referring to if its old age that it become past tense or minato surpasses him. but i believe hiruzen prime>hashirama no doubt. other wise hashirama wont be hailed as the strongest shinobe of HIS time. but ALL time. thats the question why only stated at HIS time. when we cant think of any ninja other than hiruzen and minato
 

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Ive always believed its betwee hashirama and sarutobi. At the same time ive always ranked hashirama as the strongest even before the latest chapter and im not changing my mind. The only thing ill change is to swap minato for tobirama in third place because the recent hype around hashirama has somwehat elevated tobirama aswell imo because they mustve had a similar relationship between izuna and madara were they practiced/trained together and with that mustve been close in strength althugh hashirama was the strongest and the oldest. Similarly to how madara was the strongest and the oldest. Therefore;
1. Hashirama
2. Sarutobi
3. Tobirama
4. Minato
5. Tsunade
 

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does that mean minato>itachi :rofl:
 
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