[Theory] The truth about Mokuton?

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For a long time many things about the Mokuton really irked me, so now I present my own two cents about how Hashirama's famous power.

Recap and some insightful thoughts:

Until the latest chapters we were led to believe the origin of the Mokuton was Hashirama Senju, the first Hokage. Yamato, Danzo and Madara had his DNA implanted and were thus able to use it, Zetsu was created from his very DNA and lastly Obito was partially merged with a Zetsu.

Though now we know better, Zetsu's are far older than we were led to believe. Those artificial beings were created by Kaguya using the remnants of the god tree and the very people she enslaved. So one can assume that they are a hybrid, half plant and half human.

Now with this revelation it is at least very easy to understand how the Mokuton is able to subdue tailed beasts. The Mokuton like the Sharingan is a derivation of the original power of the Shinju.

So how Hashirama got the Mokuton?

The Mokuton is not a hereditary power of the Senju


There was never any real indication that the Mokuton is something that belongs to the Senju Clan, it's not the counterpart of the Sharingan. No descendant of Hashirama ever had it, only those who had his very DNA injected into themselves were able to manifest it.

The Mokuton is not a power gained through being the reincarnation of Ashura

Naruto the only other transmogrification of Ashura we know had never shown even the slightest hint that he could manifest the Mokuton. Also Ashura himself was born without any hereditary power if we can believe what the Sage told. This brings up the question why should Ashura choose a "vessel" which has a bloodline bestowed upon itself, wouldn't that contradict the whole story of being the "underdog"?

The fate of the sons reborn?

Hagoromo's sons fought against each other, much like Hashirama and Madara or Naruto and Sasuke. But there is a difference. The sons destroyed each other during their war, Madara was killed (and sort of resurrected himself) by Hashirama and lastly if we can believe Naruto's prediction a fight between him and Sasuke would kill them both.

So the first of my assumptions is that the sons reborn are fated to fight and kill each other, this is the circle that needs to be broken. You may think I got something wrong, because Hashirama against Madara didn't end that way, but that is exactly a part of my theory.

Why is Hashirama special?

Because someone gave him the power of the Mokuton, something he was not meant to have.

It's not hard to guess who was responsible, because there was only one player at that time that had the power to do exactly that, Black Zetsu. He was the one who had the resources to bestow the power of the god tree upon Hashirama. But what was his reason?

Black Zetsu was the one who helped to create the Curse of Hatred that shrouded the Uchiha. The reasons for that are fairly simple, to reawaken Kaguya he needed someone with the Rinnegan. Only a reincarnation of Indra could do so and only when he united his chakra with that of a reborn Ashura. So Black Zetsu instigated this all to ensure the next Indra and Ashura would fight each other, that was his reason to plunge a whole clan into darkness.

Although it did never work, there was never a Rinnegan before Madara. And the reason for that is simple, the transmogrifications killed each other as it was fated.

So Black Zetsu took a gamble, he tipped of the balance of power and inserted a part of the god tree's power into Hashirama giving him an advantage in the fated fight.

Being a descendent of the Sage and Kaguya allowed the integration of this power into Hashirama. This furthermore easily explains why nobody else ever showed the Mokuton, because it never was inside Hashirama's or the Senju genes.
 

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no no he cant manipulate dna ...
and when how would he know that baby hashi is the rebirth of. ashura. and give him this power then ...
 

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It would be a good theory if wood release wasn't made from water and ground. No one has used Jinton besides Muu and ohnoki or Storm release besides Darui and the third raikage.
 
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mokuton is a combination of earth style and water style so hashirama master both style to get wood style so I thought u were wrong and yamato and etc. have hashi genes so they don't need earth or water style
 

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This seems so legit, that I can actually see it happen.

Although, there are alot of Kekkei Genkai that just require the combination of two or more elements. It's not so certain to assume that Hashi is the only one.


But still, I like this theory.
 

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mokuton is a combination of earth style and water style so hashirama master both style to get wood style so I thought u were wrong and yamato and etc. have hashi genes so they don't need earth or water style

Wrong, Yamato even explained that he just uses his two elements (which are water and earth). How can you say that you don't need the two elements when it is a requirement (as you stated yourself)
 

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I think youre forgetting that hashirama is a descendant of ashura. I am betting that asura gave hashirama his massive chakra and te ability to use the mokuten. Even with out the mokuten, hashirama has proven he is a vital character
 
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no no he cant manipulate dna ...
and when how would he know that baby hashi is the rebirth of. ashura. and give him this power then ...

He didn't need to manipulate his DNA just put a piece of the god tree into him. The rest worked from there. And Black Zetsu was around for 1000 years or more has seen dozen of Indra/Ashura reincarnations, I am pretty sure he can sense their chakra by now.


It would be a good theory if wood release wasn't made from water and ground. No one has used Jinton besides Muu and ohnoki or Storm release besides Darui and the third raikage.

Jinton doesn't really count because it is a trained style not a real bloodline.

For Mokuton it could actually be the other way round. Implanting the power of the god tree could give you a Water and Earth Nature. It's a wide guess but forcing the power of the tree into humans who had chakra (no nature chakra only elemental, which seems like a lesser form of pure nature chakra) adapted it so that it could "feed" of the chakra and Earth/Water are the most fitting Natures.

Compare it to how the real shinju rinnegan/sharingan developed into the rinnegan and then the sharingan, it evolved into something else to fit the bodies of humans.

I think youre forgetting that hashirama is a descendant of ashura. I am betting that asura gave hashirama his massive chakra and te ability to use the mokuten. Even with out the mokuten, hashirama has proven he is a vital character

Sorry to burst your bubble but the reincarnations don't get the former consciousnesses only the chakra. So each reincarnation would have gotten the Mokuton or none.
 

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great theory i was thinking something similar
 

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Maybe i worded my statement a bit different then what i meant. What i mean is that hashirama obtained his ability to use wood style some how. Maybe asura, maybe he learned while sage mode training? Who knows.
 
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Maybe i worded my statement a bit different then what i meant. What i mean is that hashirama obtained his ability to use wood style some how. Maybe asura, maybe he learned while sage mode training? Who knows.

It's hard to say for sure but it's so similar that it almost must have a really strong connection to the Shinju. Something I forgot to add was that I think Hashirama's Senjutsu works through Mokuton.

If you assume for one moment that his Mokuton is directly linked to the Shinju then it is possible that he can absorb the Nature Chakra directly through his Mokuton. The Shinju is like the creation god of the Elemental Nations, a being only made of Nature Chakra. Also remember that Hashirama instantly was able to switch to his Sage Mode. So my assumption is that he can "drain" Nature Chakra from his surroundings, like a tree sucks water through his roots.

The Shinju is the God, the being who created everything and because a part of that is in Hashirama he can control Nature itself.
 

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I think you might find my old thread interresting:
Some of it is outdated and has been proven wrong but still.
 

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Your theory does not make any sense. First, if BZ needs someone to have Rinnegan, and he has the power to give Mokuton, then why did he not give Mokuton to Madara to begin with. See, Madara could have awaken Rinnegan at 12 years old then. This flaw make your theory handicapped.

Next, there are a lot of similarity between Hashirama and Naruto actually, and you cannot root out Naruto using Mokuton before the end of the manga. Unlike Hashirama, Naruto was Jinchuriki of Kyuubi and could not learn Jutsus earlier. However, Naruto has always manifested something that is connected to Hashirama - instant regeneration of the body. This is the property of Hashirama's body and I bet it the reason for Rinnegan unlocking, not Mokuton. Next, Naruto is the only one who did not die when TSunade gave him the necklace of Hashirama, which is suppose to resonate with Hashirama's power.
 

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It's hard to say for sure but it's so similar that it almost must have a really strong connection to the Shinju. Something I forgot to add was that I think Hashirama's Senjutsu works through Mokuton.

If you assume for one moment that his Mokuton is directly linked to the Shinju then it is possible that he can absorb the Nature Chakra directly through his Mokuton. The Shinju is like the creation god of the Elemental Nations, a being only made of Nature Chakra. Also remember that Hashirama instantly was able to switch to his Sage Mode. So my assumption is that he can "drain" Nature Chakra from his surroundings, like a tree sucks water through his roots.

The Shinju is the God, the being who created everything and because a part of that is in Hashirama he can control Nature itself.

Loved the thread and it's points. I like the idea that this is how he got mokuton, and I don't remember anybody saying that Hashi did sage training... so it could stand to fact that it was simply the connection to the god tree that naturally blessed him with sage powers.
BZ could definitely sense where the chakra of indra/ashura went. I imagine you get used to the feeling it gives off after 1000s of years lol and as another point we don't necessarily know when hashi developed his wood style so even if it wasn't implanted in him as a baby it still could've been done well into his teens.
 

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Your theory does not make any sense. First, if BZ needs someone to have Rinnegan, and he has the power to give Mokuton, then why did he not give Mokuton to Madara to begin with. See, Madara could have awaken Rinnegan at 12 years old then. This flaw make your theory handicapped.

Next, there are a lot of similarity between Hashirama and Naruto actually, and you cannot root out Naruto using Mokuton before the end of the manga. Unlike Hashirama, Naruto was Jinchuriki of Kyuubi and could not learn Jutsus earlier. However, Naruto has always manifested something that is connected to Hashirama - instant regeneration of the body. This is the property of Hashirama's body and I bet it the reason for Rinnegan unlocking, not Mokuton. Next, Naruto is the only one who did not die when TSunade gave him the necklace of Hashirama, which is suppose to resonate with Hashirama's power.

You missed it entirely man... Mokuton was not what was going to be used to awaken the rinnegan. BZ would've given him mokuton to tip the power scale in Ashura's favor and try to prevent the "they both die" scenario so that Indra would go after the power of Ashura and finally combine the two chakras and awaken the rinnegan.

Giving Madara the mokuton would've shifted the balance of power in the wrong direction and Madara/Indra would've won outright and would see no need to increase their power because they would already be the strongest... Giving Hashi mokuton is what caused Madara to seek out Hashi's strength
 

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it was never stated that only indras descendants, uchiha, are able to awaken the rennigan. if i am not mistaken, black zetsu simply states he tries to awaken the rennigan in the transmigrants, not specifically referring to either bloodline. also how would he give said abilities of the god tree to anybody when the gedo mazo was in the moon? plus i assume he would need the power of the tailed beast to do it anyways, which i assume he did not have. i assume that hashirama just learned to tap into this power thanks to being a transmigrant. remember, we know nothing of ashura's power, only that the sage says that his power blossomed. this could refer to the mokuton.
 

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