warpathixclan
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I'm going to begin by saying that i dont believe that current madara is able to be compared to hashirama, this thread is about hashirama vs madara... did madara simply let hashi win? or was it because he coudnt actualy beat hashi....
First off i wanna say weve seen alot of hashirama's abilities through madara. does this mean that madara mastered mokuton? Hashirama was known to have a powerful chakra, hes senju... and also was the original mokuton user... yeah mabye his descendent used mokuton( until shown otherwise) hashi is the first one to use, also i think its safe to say he mastered mokuton? he also was able to heal himself without handseals. I believe that proves more that senju chakra was overwelming and he could bring it out just to heal his own wounds.
One of my biggest points is do you consider madara atm his prime? yes he is stronger but i think no he isnt... i obviously know the definition of prime.. but in the end hes only here because HE WAS REVIVED, yes he escaped the jutsu but he could never and woudnt ever face hashirama in his current prime/ or lets say current form/life... i dont say prime simply because his generation and his ORIGINAL lifetime ended..
Another huge point that proves that original hashi( that sounds alot better im comparing original hashi vs original madara)is that do you honestly believe madara mastered mokuton?
My final point will be is that madara was a smart man... he most likely thought im not dieing to this person he simply played dead.... in my own opinion i believe this makes him a coward, in the end madara was an old crippled man that everyone thought was dead, he was clinging to the gedo mazou... not sure how he obtained it, but regardles. madara didnt let hashi win, if madara wanted his dna and COULD have killed he would have, thats madara, thats his whole essense to destroy and to show how much higher level he is then someone else...madara simply coudnt beat him.... hashi definetly had HIGHER chakra reserves, thats because the senju inherited the sages body, and he healed himself without even using hand seals madara simply ran out of chakra or knew he was about to, thats pretty much it, madara played dead, made hashi think he was dead and decided he would survive some other way.... at the end of his life... many people think all the despair and turmoil he had unlocked the rinnengan nowone knows for sure, but basicaly like i said, in there first lifetime, HASHI> MADARA...
First off i wanna say weve seen alot of hashirama's abilities through madara. does this mean that madara mastered mokuton? Hashirama was known to have a powerful chakra, hes senju... and also was the original mokuton user... yeah mabye his descendent used mokuton( until shown otherwise) hashi is the first one to use, also i think its safe to say he mastered mokuton? he also was able to heal himself without handseals. I believe that proves more that senju chakra was overwelming and he could bring it out just to heal his own wounds.
One of my biggest points is do you consider madara atm his prime? yes he is stronger but i think no he isnt... i obviously know the definition of prime.. but in the end hes only here because HE WAS REVIVED, yes he escaped the jutsu but he could never and woudnt ever face hashirama in his current prime/ or lets say current form/life... i dont say prime simply because his generation and his ORIGINAL lifetime ended..
Another huge point that proves that original hashi( that sounds alot better im comparing original hashi vs original madara)is that do you honestly believe madara mastered mokuton?
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yes unlike naruto the mokuton jutsu he used didnt fail, but dont forget he is madara, hashirama definetly mastered mokuton, and i think its pretty logical to say.. madara mokuton<hashiramas mokuton, now thinking back who realy thinks that madara let hashi win at the valley of the end?My final point will be is that madara was a smart man... he most likely thought im not dieing to this person he simply played dead.... in my own opinion i believe this makes him a coward, in the end madara was an old crippled man that everyone thought was dead, he was clinging to the gedo mazou... not sure how he obtained it, but regardles. madara didnt let hashi win, if madara wanted his dna and COULD have killed he would have, thats madara, thats his whole essense to destroy and to show how much higher level he is then someone else...madara simply coudnt beat him.... hashi definetly had HIGHER chakra reserves, thats because the senju inherited the sages body, and he healed himself without even using hand seals madara simply ran out of chakra or knew he was about to, thats pretty much it, madara played dead, made hashi think he was dead and decided he would survive some other way.... at the end of his life... many people think all the despair and turmoil he had unlocked the rinnengan nowone knows for sure, but basicaly like i said, in there first lifetime, HASHI> MADARA...
