Honord Sage
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Wright You'r own story the way you want and if it doesn't work out,then You will know why Kishi ideas work and you'r are so much failures waiting to happen.
The Top Blunders of the Naruto Series
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Jiraiya's death was tragic and the manga really hasn't been the same since. Not that I'm furious that he is gone like the Jiraiya fanboys, but no other character provided the comic relief that he did.
Also if Sakura is no longer going to be developed, then kill her off. She is simply a waste of Panels at this point.
Also if Sakura is no longer going to be developed, then kill her off. She is simply a waste of Panels at this point.
Yusuke Urameshi
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Vandenre1ch
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Now THAT is a grammar blunder.
Dont worry about it Mayuri. That whole fight is a complete WTF.
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Whiteknight
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I definitely agree with this one. Kishi has a problem that he created for himself. He's been talking the entire time about how Sasuke would be the final battle against Naruto. However, Naruto with the fox inside clearly has more potential to gain power than Sasuke does. Current Bijuu-mode Naruto is completely overwhelming compared to Sasuke (especially when Naruto has an entire army at his back).
To make it so Sasuke can compete with Naruto, Kishi had to make the Uchiha into over-powered Super Hero ninjas. That means, the sharingan have to be these ultimate super duper eyes that keep gaining powerups for odd reasons. Now the next powerup for Sasuke is clearly going to be the Rinnegan, Kishi has been setting that up and it's the only real way for Sasuke to get as powerful as Naruto is now (assuming Naruto doesn't gain any more power).
BUT, this raises a few problems:
1) If the Uchiha are so powerful, how is it that when they fought the Senju they lost?
2) Awakening the MS seems to be pretty easy. Shisui did it (did Shisui kill his best friend?) Itachi did it (who did Itachi kill?) Sasuke did it. Obito did it. Kakashi did it. If it's so easy, more Uchiha should have been able to do it in the past and they would have been even more powerful than the Senju.
3) If the Uchiha have Izanagi and the potential to (easily) awaken MS, how is it that Itachi and Obito together killed the entire clan? If the Uchiha are supposedly so powerful, how is it that two people could defeat all of them?
Also, Itachi clearly told Sasuke to kill his best friend (Naruto). Sasuke almost did it. Later, Itachi relied on Naruto to save Sasuke and turn Sasuke back into a hero. WTF was Itachi's plan? What would have happened if Sasuke DID KILL NARUTO LIKE ITACHI INSTRUCTED? Then, Sasuke gained the MS even though he didn't kill his best friend like Itachi said. So Itachi clearly lied about it, and his lie would have caused more harm than good if Sasuke followed it. If we don't want Itachi to be a stupid liar, then we have to say all sorts of weird things like Itachi must have been Sasuke's best friend, or the MS can awaken from killing anybody you care about (and Naruto was the only person Sasuke cared about at the time). But wouldn't killing Naruto have made the 9-tails come back without Jinchuuriki, which would have made it easier for Akatsuki to capture (especially since we know Obito can control it with his sharingan)? That doesn't make any sense if Itachi is secretly a "good guy".
So, yeah. The Uchiha being overpowered because Sasuke needs to keep up with Naruto for story reasons is a big problem in the manga. The other big mistake is Itachi's early appearances, when Kishi clearly hadn't planned for him to be a good guy yet.
edo tensai wilmaso
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this manga has a lot of loopholes....loopception lmao
ej: edo nagato takes naruto and sucks his chackra/soul w/e and becomes young again ...why didn't madara do that to obito?? to gain back some years.
ej: edo nagato takes naruto and sucks his chackra/soul w/e and becomes young again ...why didn't madara do that to obito?? to gain back some years.
Nagato wasn't old he was just deprived of life and his body was withering.
Jiraiya death was the reason I stopped watching the series for awhile.
I mean come on his introductions and flashy dances were always Amazing!
The invention of "nano-sized insects" - yeah right, not even the smallest cells are at the nano-scale, it's so stupid. And he even tries to be very scientific, when he explains, how powerful the damage from Naruto's rasen shurinken is. Reading one thing on wiki, and forgetting the most obvious things. Just proves the lack of knowledge.
And those you mention are legit, except the order is somewhat stupid. Everyone knew it was gonna be Obito at that time, since it was already revealed, that it was his sharingan..
Although I disagree about Jiraya's death. He had to die, for Naruto to develop. It was nice to finally see main characters die, since it has a huge impact on the story. It's not like in Bleach, where none ever dies....
The reason a lot of people has dumped the manga since Jiraya died, is that Kishi has stopped being funny. You could easily relate this to Jiraya, since his and Naruto's relationship, was what made most of Kishi's jokes. Tbh I don't remember even once, where I laughed since his death, but back in part 1, I can find chapters, where I can laugh through most of it. That is the real reason, why it's being dumped hard. If you compare to OP, it's waaaay bigger, because it keeps being hilarious. And it's like 5 times better selling.
And those you mention are legit, except the order is somewhat stupid. Everyone knew it was gonna be Obito at that time, since it was already revealed, that it was his sharingan..
Although I disagree about Jiraya's death. He had to die, for Naruto to develop. It was nice to finally see main characters die, since it has a huge impact on the story. It's not like in Bleach, where none ever dies....
The reason a lot of people has dumped the manga since Jiraya died, is that Kishi has stopped being funny. You could easily relate this to Jiraya, since his and Naruto's relationship, was what made most of Kishi's jokes. Tbh I don't remember even once, where I laughed since his death, but back in part 1, I can find chapters, where I can laugh through most of it. That is the real reason, why it's being dumped hard. If you compare to OP, it's waaaay bigger, because it keeps being hilarious. And it's like 5 times better selling.
edo tensai wilmaso
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all i'm saying is that madara could have done the same thing. but no he wants to torment lil kids.
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Kurosaki638
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I think one of them is how Hinata confessed her love to naruto, then he gets mad about her "dying", and then shrugs it off afterword. not to mention sakura doesn't remind naruto what she considering she heard it.
Kurosaki638
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And sorry for you fanboys, but in all honesty Jiraya needed to die. it made naruto a stronger person and made himself as a ninja and person develop to what he is now. it's the same reason why goku blew himself up to make gohan a merciless killing machine and kill cell. if he din't do that, he wouldn't have the ability to gain in power like he was later in the series.
MissShakra
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ehh, ill wait and see how the story finishes out before i start speaking blunders...things may not make sense now or seem too cool, but im sure kishi has a plan set aside to make it badass. if not, well...thats opinionated anyways right?
i do agree with whoever said the stuff about itachi lol im still wondering how he was a genius and taught sasuke some of the stuff he did...he created konoha's worst enemy when he was trying to protect it! the development with sakura too is also infuriating...i mean hes given her good roles...but nothing compared to naruto or even ino or hinata fighting wise! i cant wait til he does something with her.....besides that....im just gonna see how it plays out
i do agree with whoever said the stuff about itachi lol im still wondering how he was a genius and taught sasuke some of the stuff he did...he created konoha's worst enemy when he was trying to protect it! the development with sakura too is also infuriating...i mean hes given her good roles...but nothing compared to naruto or even ino or hinata fighting wise! i cant wait til he does something with her.....besides that....im just gonna see how it plays out
1. I don't agree. In my opinion the name of that chapter 'Obito Uchiha' was really shocking. Then the whole chapter being only drawings and no dialogue was great imo. For me it added even more sadness and compassion towards Obito, knowing that he lived and got on a bad path.
2. Fillers are necessary and I actually don't mind them. It's more Naruto and I just ignore potential plotholes in those episodes.
3. I love flashbacks. They give more backstory and those little details that help us understand the characters and history more.
4. People die. I don't get why people have to be 'fanboys' of certain characters. I don't watch Naruto just for one character or to see Naruto ending up with Hinata. His death was also important for Naruto's development. If there were no deaths it just would be awkward.
5. I agree that some characters could've had more development. But of course we don't know what the future holds. But each passing chapter is of course less time for them to develop.
Spaghettidrk
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If you didn't know it was obito when it SHOWED his sharingan as the same mangekyou as kakashi, and kakashi and guy were both saying they knew who it was, and all of the context in the previous couple chapters before the " Obito Uchiha " chapter, without trying to sound rude, you are simply daft. Also I'd like to see these "art mistakes".
" The series has more filler then canon " , Both Naruto and Naruto Shipuuden both have 40% or less fillers, it's still bad but don't misrepresent it. Also it you can't really say it's a blunder of the series itself, like within the actual lore and the authors canon, if it's not canon how is it a blunder of the series as a whole? source :
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, if you don't believe it do the math.The flashbacks aren't uselss, it gives us insight and more character development. To call them a blunder kinda seems like a whiny thing to do, also 95% is an insanely rediculous exxageration.
So what, kishi isn't allowed to offend fans? Is he supposed to just bend over to the majority's will and not develop his story the way he wants? The lowering of sales is completely irrelevant, you don't know if it's because of Jiraiya's death, did you have a poll of consumers? Even then it has no base to if the series is good or not because majority opinion=/=quality.
The manga actually doesn't revolve around the sharingan, rinnegan, or byakugan. At all. It revolves around the characters and their development. That's actually a really dumb thing to cry about. You're basically saying he stopped developing characters to focus on dojutsu, wat.
"The eyes aren't special because a few characters stole eyes" Big deal, they aren't without negative consequences, and even then it's still interesting"
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